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    ATL WAS O 77.778
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    I am here to stand by mu numbers. NO excuses NO explanations. Simply got destroyed by the mathematics today, tomorrow is another day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MathMan View Post
    Ind lac o 75
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    these tips are all in percentage? then you mean with Ind Lac o over -110? I only want make it clear that no overlasting discussion comes on. then which stats do you compare for example with Ind Lac over? and which line do you take for comparison opening line or the totals line? there this changes I wonder which line you use always for comparison? I only interest me for totals stats so if you could please list me which stats you use for it and which line you take for comparison in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Garnett View Post
    these tips are all in percentage? then you mean with Ind Lac o over -110? I only want make it clear that no overlasting discussion comes on. then which stats do you compare for example with Ind Lac over? and which line do you take for comparison opening line or the totals line? there this changes I wonder which line you use always for comparison? I only interest me for totals stats so if you could please list me which stats you use for it and which line you take for comparison in general.
    yes percentage
    yes o/u -110
    stats used are classified for The Laboratory only

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    Quote Originally Posted by MathMan View Post
    yes percentage
    yes o/u -110
    stats used are classified for The Laboratory only

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    ok you don't want tell which stats you use? this is still not known the correct tips. the line you can't say which you use in general? how many hours before the gamestart you recommend to bet in general?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Garnett View Post
    ok you don't want tell which stats you use? this is still not known the correct tips. the line you can't say which you use in general? how many hours before the gamestart you recommend to bet in general?
    opening line is what I recommend I mean they hold pretty steady on a regular basis. As far a betting it I would say about two or three just to make sure there are no crazy line up changes like when the coaches decide to sit all the starters or they all "get sick" or something like that. greg Popavich will do that type of thing at least once or twice a year and then the other team has to do it back ect.etc. it is all part of the business. Because do not be mistaken professional sports is ALL business.

    please feel free to ask further questions if I did not clarify it KG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MathMan View Post
    opening line is what I recommend I mean they hold pretty steady on a regular basis. As far a betting it I would say about two or three just to make sure there are no crazy line up changes like when the coaches decide to sit all the starters or they all "get sick" or something like that. greg Popavich will do that type of thing at least once or twice a year and then the other team has to do it back ect.etc. it is all part of the business. Because do not be mistaken professional sports is ALL business.

    please feel free to ask further questions if I did not clarify it KG.

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    thanks have understood it so far. do you know how the opening line will calculated? I never have heart how this will calculated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Garnett View Post
    thanks have understood it so far. do you know how the opening line will calculated? I never have heart how this will calculated.
    could you please answer my question how the opening line will calculated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Garnett View Post
    could you please answer my question how the opening line will calculated?
    usually just the two teams scoring avg combined with each teams allowed points scored and +/- a three pointer

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    Quote Originally Posted by MathMan View Post
    usually just the two teams scoring avg combined with each teams allowed points scored and +/- a three pointer
    ok but who says +/- three points? i don't understand this if the calculation is not clear.

    if you compare an example, yesterday the game por-lal the opening was 209, the average score/defense of the both teams was 203. this is a huge space to the opening of 6 pts. so i ask me the question does it make sense to compare stats after the opening for the forecast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Garnett View Post
    ok but who says +/- three points? i don't understand this if the calculation is not clear.

    if you compare an example, yesterday the game por-lal the opening was 209, the average score/defense of the both teams was 203. this is a huge space to the opening of 6 pts. so i ask me the question does it make sense to compare stats after the opening for the forecast?
    my friend you have to remember that the books are not making the line to show accurate measure of the teams they are setting the lines based on public perception. It is a business and they are catering to the customers in order to bring in even money for both sides of each bet so they can collect their fee without having to pay out of pocket. the books are not there to tell you the truth they are there to sell you on making a bet

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    Quote Originally Posted by MathMan View Post
    my friend you have to remember that the books are not making the line to show accurate measure of the teams they are setting the lines based on public perception. It is a business and they are catering to the customers in order to bring in even money for both sides of each bet so they can collect their fee without having to pay out of pocket. the books are not there to tell you the truth they are there to sell you on making a bet

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    i know but which line i then should take to compare with my stats? after which line do you compare your stats?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Garnett View Post
    i know but my question was how will the opening "exactly" calculated? that the bookmakers don't make the opening is clear.
    So you want me to tell you how The Laboratory comes up with the numbers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MathMan View Post
    So you want me to tell you how The Laboratory comes up with the numbers?
    sry, have edit my posting, see #56

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Garnett View Post
    sry, have edit my posting, see #56
    Oh I see, closing line my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MathMan View Post
    Oh I see, closing line my friend.

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    ok and how close exactly? just before the game start or when? then where do you compare the closing line in general? i need a trustable site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Garnett View Post
    ok and how close exactly? just before the game start or when? then where do you compare the closing line in general? i need a trustable site.
    they are all going to be pretty close.just look at they lines they offer here. there is a listing of lines here somewhere. And what exactly are you trying to compare your numbers with theirs or what? I am not sure what it is you are trying to do. Please send me a private message on this matter since I dont want to clog up this thread with this topic.

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    pho ats 65.5
    char ats 57.273
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    34 Jesus said to them, 'How many loaves have you?' They said, 'Seven, and a few small fish.'
    35 Then he instructed the crowd to sit down on the ground,
    36 and he took the seven loaves and the fish, and after giving thanks he broke them and began handing them to the disciples, who gave them to the crowds.
    37 They all ate as much as they wanted, and they collected what was left of the scraps, seven baskets full.


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    21 'It is not anyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord," who will enter the kingdom of Heaven, but the person who does the will of my Father in heaven.
    24 'Therefore, everyone who listens to these words of mine and acts on them will be like a sensible man who built his house on rock.

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