[Menses]

Now 1st of all....who the hell cares about Nelly...I have never bought a record he made...but the dude was drafted by the Cardinals...I think.correct me if im wrong...so he is a sports guy...but he is spot on here....except for the fact that Kobe is not the sole reason Dwight left....Dwight gets some of the blame, Kobe gets about 25 percent...Buss about 25 percent...and the organization over all gets their share as well....but I don't blame Nelly for feeling the way he does...Ratzz my man...you gotta see this one!!!

[joco]

i agree. who the fuk cares what nelly thinks..guy hasnt put out a hit song in years...either way what does he care about dwight and the lakers...guys from st louis...

[Menses]

i agree. who the fuk cares what nelly thinks..guy hasnt put out a hit song in years...either way what does he care about dwight and the lakers...guys from st louis...

He is a personal close friend of Dwight Howard...

[Ratzz]

Now 1st of all....who the hell cares about Nelly...I have never bought a record he made...but the dude was drafted by the Cardinals...I think.correct me if im wrong...so he is a sports guy...but he is spot on here....except for the fact that Kobe is not the sole reason Dwight left....Dwight gets some of the blame, Kobe gets about 25 percent...Buss about 25 percent...and the organization over all gets their share as well....but I don't blame Nelly for feeling the way he does...Ratzz my man...you gotta see this one!!!

WOW!

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WERE TALKING ABOUT!!

interesting that he has to backpedal... *BIT BECAUSE HE IS IN LA< OR is a celeb.. or whatever..
but we don't have that problem.. we can just call it out. and let it remain out there..

but word is out/ now.. Lakers own nothing. it all belongs to Kobe. Next 3-4 yrs.
no move or playoffs.

excellent post. memses.. KUDOS Monsieur.

also, the Phil Jackson vid.. he called out KObe by name!!

"and then Kobe screwed everything up by playing isolation 1-on-1"

wow.. HUGE... PJ is the only that has the balls, or the credentials to do that.
(PLUS he HATES Kobe)

[Sport_Fish]

What a co-incidence that "Menses" and "Ratzz" always seem to agree with one another, and always seem to have negative Kobe comments.

Seriously, wtf is wrong with you. Any little credibility u had, u lose it when u try to make your points by using two accounts.

[jsmithj88]

that clip was nonsense, even nelly didnt know what he was trying to say

[Menses]

What a co-incidence that "Menses" and "Ratzz" always seem to agree with one another, and always seem to have negative Kobe comments.

Seriously, wtf is wrong with you. Any little credibility u had, u lose it when u try to make your points by using two accounts.

Listen playa...i dun have a problem with you personally...and I know its the fashionable thing around here to attack me and Rattz because " we agree on everything"........but if you don't have anything to contribute to the thread, why post a response? If i made the same post about Dwight Howard...being an asshole and a prima donna....you wouldn't have said a peep....You don't realize how stupid you sound co signing on the belief that me and Ratz are the same person......a simple IP trace will solve the problem...Ratz does not need ghosts immitating him to prove his point...go read the comments from the Nelly Video....there are people outside of Los Angeles that hate Kobe's guts as much as me and Ratz do.....don't be naive....

And me and Ratzz do not agree on everything....he thinks Kobe is washed up...I do not...he has plenty left in the tank...so much so that he can probably play till 40...and we also don't agree on the Miami heat championship...I agreed with reallytho that it was rigged because Popovich threw the series....Ratzz is vehemently against this theory....but of course you are too lazy to notice or go back and read those threads....because it is more important to prove that the only person who could possibly agree with Rattz about Kobe Bryant and the Lakers is himself...lol.........please take a visit to the "BRUCEBLITZED" you tube account...that is where I am from....there are legions of us who despise everything Kobe stands for.....these guys would make Ratzz look like a Kobe lover...if you listen to what the have to say....

It was a great joy to come to this board and find a fellow hater of Kobe who finally GETS IT....and sees through the fallacy that is his career....so yes..I am going to pop in his threads and talk that shit as much as possible....if you dun like it....STAY THE FUC OUTTA MY THREAD

[Menses]

WOW!

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WERE TALKING ABOUT!!

interesting that he has to backpedal... *BIT BECAUSE HE IS IN LA< OR is a celeb.. or whatever..
but we don't have that problem.. we can just call it out. and let it remain out there..

but word is out/ now.. Lakers own nothing. it all belongs to Kobe. Next 3-4 yrs.
no move or playoffs.

excellent post. memses.. KUDOS Monsieur.

also, the Phil Jackson vid.. he called out KObe by name!!

"and then Kobe screwed everything up by playing isolation 1-on-1"

wow.. HUGE... PJ is the only that has the balls, or the credentials to do that.
(PLUS he HATES Kobe)

Ratzz check this out...I was talking to some folks last night about the show and apparently...the reason Nelly had to back up a bit through out the conversation was because the fuc-ing PRODUCERS WERE TELLING HIM TO TONE IT DOWN..AND STOP BASHING KOBE....this is why he kept adjusting his ear piece...and then he finally decided to ignore them and he WENT ALL IN on Kobe and his FALSE PSEUDO LEGACY AS ALL TIME GREAT PLAYER...

ESPN has always had an agenda, with Kobe and I get it...you focus on the star players and attribute any Championships they win to THEM SOLEY AND PRETEND AS IF THEY ARE THE SOLE REASON THEY WON A RING...They are trying to do the same thing with Lebron, now that he was won, they can't continue to bash him...so DWIGHT HOWARD has now replaced him as the VILLAIN...and now they are trying to DOWNPLAY DWAYNE WADE AND BOSH and pretend that LEBRON IS THE ONLY REASON MIAMI HAS WON RINGS...this is what espn does....create half truths out of thin air in order to suit the STAR PLAYER agenda....

The amazing thing is that nobody at espn, other journalists will tell the truth about Kobe...because they are COMPANY MEN...and have to tow the line...they can bash dwight because he is not franchise...but an alleged rapist continues to get pass after pass because he is too important to the NBA brand...especially worldwide......its the same reason why Jordan and his off court exploits, including mafia gambling, blood sacrifice of his father, and his prostitute porn star whoring was kept off the front page of the NY TIMES....he was too important a brand....

But interestingly enough, Phil has not one bad word to say about Michael as far as basketball is concerned...but he has plenty to say about Kobe? Why is that? because he is not a company man...Phil does not work for espn, he can say what ever the hell he wants...this man put up with Dennis Rodman and Ron Artest...and has not one bad word to say about either one of them and they are notorious NBA bad boys but he has barely the time or the patience to pretend that the NBA Prince and all time great Kobe Bryant is what they say he is...he speaks the truth on that punk time and time again...I wonder why that is?

[Sport_Fish]

Listen playa...i dun have a problem with you personally...and I know its the fashionable thing around here to attack me and Rattz because " we agree on everything"........but if you don't have anything to contribute to the thread, why post a response? If i made the same post about Dwight Howard...being an asshole and a prima donna....you wouldn't have said a peep....You don't realize how stupid you sound co signing on the belief that me and Ratz are the same person......a simple IP trace will solve the problem...Ratz does not need ghosts immitating him to prove his point...go read the comments from the Nelly Video....there are people outside of Los Angeles that hate Kobe's guts as much as me and Ratz do.....don't be naive....

And me and Ratzz do not agree on everything....he thinks Kobe is washed up...I do not...he has plenty left in the tank...so much so that he can probably play till 40...and we also don't agree on the Miami heat championship...I agreed with reallytho that it was rigged because Popovich threw the series....Ratzz is vehemently against this theory....but of course you are too lazy to notice or go back and read those threads....because it is more important to prove that the only person who could possibly agree with Rattz about Kobe Bryant and the Lakers is himself...lol.........please take a visit to the "BRUCEBLITZED" you tube account...that is where I am from....there are legions of us who despise everything Kobe stands for.....these guys would make Ratzz look like a Kobe lover...if you listen to what the have to say....

It was a great joy to come to this board and find a fellow hater of Kobe who finally GETS IT....and sees through the fallacy that is his career....so yes..I am going to pop in his threads and talk that shit as much as possible....if you dun like it....STAY THE FUC OUTTA MY THREAD

well I would post about the thread itself but there's no point in arguing with someone who thinks 'Kobe isn't ONE of the greatest players'.

I actually agree with most of what Nelly said, and hate alot of stuff Kobe does. But at the end of the day, no reasonable NBA fan/analyst, NONE, will say that Kobe isn't even one of the best to play the game. Anyone who says that - and clearly for some reason you do, just displays a level of ignorance. So its hard to have any valid discussion.

[Menses]

well I would post about the thread itself but there's no point in arguing with someone who thinks 'Kobe isn't ONE of the greatest players'.

I actually agree with most of what Nelly said, and hate alot of stuff Kobe does. But at the end of the day, no reasonable NBA fan/analyst, NONE, will say that Kobe isn't even one of the best to play the game. Anyone who says that - and clearly for some reason you do, just displays a level of ignorance. So its hard to have any valid discussion.

Well he is one of the greatest...i just like denying it because I am bitter....but he is top 10...all time

[Sport_Fish]

Well he is one of the greatest...i just like denying it because I am bitter....but he is top 10...all time

fair enough, that's my point as well.

But as far as the other stuff goes, esp. about how u have a superstar taking a paycut to get AWAY from Kobe, while a guy like LeBron has guys taking massive paycuts to come play with him. I def. agree with that, and there are things like this which I hate about Kobe, and if those are your arguments, I believe we are in agreement.

[neutral]

I wonder how people can sit down to watch the 2 tomfooleries [Zero Sports Intelligence] on First Take.

[Menses]

I wonder how people can sit down to watch the 2 tomfooleries [Zero Sports Intelligence] on First Take.

The Both of them are buffoons no doubt lol......but are highly entertaining..i don't agree with skip more than half the time and Stephen A is a blowhard...but still they are entertaining...lol....half of it is for shock value and entertainment...they can't do that on live mainstream TV....which is why the ABC line up of Wilbon, Jalen, Magic and Simmons are failing....you put these two First Take Clowns on there..and you will see some great half time TV....love them or hate them......thats why TNT works...with Barkley and Shaq...Shaq is an idiot...but his shtick..goes well with the rest of the guys...it only when he tries to be serious that ruins everything...

[jsmithj88]

The Both of them are buffoons no doubt lol......but are highly entertaining..i don't agree with skip more than half the time and Stephen A is a blowhard...but still they are entertaining...lol....half of it is for shock value and entertainment...they can't do that on live mainstream TV....which is why the ABC line up of Wilbon, Jalen, Magic and Simmons are failing....you put these two First Take Clowns on there..and you will see some great half time TV....love them or hate them......thats why TNT works...with Barkley and Shaq...Shaq is an idiot...but his shtick..goes well with the rest of the guys...it only when he tries to be serious that ruins everything...

NONOOONOOOOOOO !!!
shaq adds nothing to the tnt program
he is not funny and is god awfully lame

[plow]

Only the weak hate Kobe. Shaq hated him because he knew he was right every time Kobe complained about him being lazy.

Look at who loves him. Phil, MJ, Fisher, Pop, Lebron, Pau, Duncan - other guys that know what it takes to win and work hard. You might laugh at having Pau on that list, but he adopted the warrior mentality from Kobe after getting beaten up by KG in the 2008 Finals, and came back in 2009 & 10 much stronger & tougher and won two titles.

Dwight is a clown. Weak emotionally, needs people to love him. And he thinks love is given by fake adulation and ceding to his flippant desires. Look at how many illegitimate kids the guy has. It says a lot about what sort of person he is... Kareem was on the money with what he said - google it.

[upscope]

Shocker....Rat boy & his alter ego sock puppet Menses getting bitched & called out for "their" ignorance yet again. Go play in traffic you two (or one)

Dwight Howard has publicly said the if Phil Jackson were coaching the Lakers he would have turned his career around. There were several reason why Dwight left but the most obvious one was Mike D'antoni......That's irrelevant though cause Rat boy/Menses will always twist everything around to fault Kobe, & look completely ignorant in the process~

ONE ACCOUNT PLEASE.....HOW PATHETIC

[leetreaper]

Frigging mental circus...

[Menses]

Only the weak hate Kobe. Shaq hated him because he knew he was right every time Kobe complained about him being lazy.

Look at who loves him. Phil, MJ, Fisher, Pop, Lebron, Pau, Duncan - other guys that know what it takes to win and work hard. You might laugh at having Pau on that list, but he adopted the warrior mentality from Kobe after getting beaten up by KG in the 2008 Finals, and came back in 2009 & 10 much stronger & tougher and won two titles.

Dwight is a clown. Weak emotionally, needs people to love him. And he thinks love is given by fake adulation and ceding to his flippant desires. Look at how many illegitimate kids the guy has. It says a lot about what sort of person he is... Kareem was on the money with what he said - google it.

Those guys respect his game and some of them like Lebron...grew up watching Kobe ...nobody questions his game...but coaches do not respect his attitude and his tendency to abandon the team in favor of hero ball....folks have to learn to separate his talent from his weakness to shoot his teams out of games....