[stevenash]

In my opinion it was a toss up between him and Tulo before Tulo went down with the broken rib.

Car-Go, pays gold glove caliber outfield, has 19 ding dongs, tied for the best in the league, 54 RBI, 55 runs scored, is almost perfect on the bases, stealing 13 out of 14, .313 BA .388 OBA, .641 slugging, Mr. Calculator says that's an OPS of 1.029.

Every one of those numbers, from defense, to power, to speed, to freaking everything is Hall of Fame scary.

At this pace, Car-Go wins a silver slugger, probably a gold glove and has these numbers at the end of the year.

.313-45-127 RBI, 129 Runs scored, 31 stolen bases........................

[nvrlose37]

He goes on streaks where he goes 2 for 30 but otherwise he is a special player. Everyone always complained about his home/road splits but this year he is hitting better away from Coors. If the Rockies make the playoffs, Im thinking he can get it.

[El Nino]

Paul Goldschmidt

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Coors Field inflates any player's offensive stats. Rockies will be 3rd in the division.

[stevenash]

^
You can make a case for Goldy, his numbers are almost as good as Car-Go

[InTheDrink]

Paul Goldschmidt

/thread

Coors Field inflates any player's offensive stats. Rockies will be 3rd in the division.

common ninoer....thats a lazy argument just because he's a rockie

Split	G	GS	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	TB	GDP	HBP	SH	SF	IBB	ROE	BAbip	tOPS+	sOPS+
Home	37	36	162	140	31	39	7	6	8	32	10	1	20	39	.279	.364	.586	.950	82	1	0	0	2	1	1	.326	87	156
Away	29	28	128	115	23	40	7	0	11	21	3	0	13	34	.348	.414	.696	1.110	80	3	0	0	0	0	0	.414	117	211

goldschmidt has started his plummet....good player but no mvp caliber at this point

[nvrlose37]

Paul Goldschmidt

/thread

Coors Field inflates any player's offensive stats. Rockies will be 3rd in the division.

Exactly what the uneducated would say. Cargo better away this year. Goldshit is going to fall off fast, back to .280.

[broadway6]

Yadier Molina- .352 avg and best team in the NL

[stevenash]

Yadier Molina- .352 avg and best team in the NL

And he plays defense like Johnny Bench and Thurman Munson did.

[broadway6]

And he plays defense like Johnny Bench and Thurman Munson did.

[El Nino]

common ninoer....thats a lazy argument just because he's a rockie

Split	G	GS	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	CS	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	TB	GDP	HBP	SH	SF	IBB	ROE	BAbip	tOPS+	sOPS+
Home	37	36	162	140	31	39	7	6	8	32	10	1	20	39	.279	.364	.586	.950	82	1	0	0	2	1	1	.326	87	156
Away	29	28	128	115	23	40	7	0	11	21	3	0	13	34	.348	.414	.696	1.110	80	3	0	0	0	0	0	.414	117	211

goldschmidt has started his plummet....good player but no mvp caliber at this point

Drinker, it's a standard argument for a reason.

[jnickell100]

It's not even half way through the season. Lots of things will happen, one of which will be car go stats declining. He's a great player but he won't keep this up. He's to streaky and also like someone said he plays in coors which is a launching pad.

[hankcream]

Are you talking Carlos Gomez? If yet to hear anybody refer to him as Car-Go and I live in Wisconsin.

[InTheDrink]

Drinker, it's a standard argument for a reason.

and its invalid....he's the best player in the league on the road

and thurman munson in the same conversation as johnny bench

[El Nino]

and its invalid....he's the best player in the league on the road

and thurman munson in the same conversation as johnny bench

So because he's better on the road, his advantage for half his games is automatically disregarded?

[InTheDrink]

So because he's better on the road, his advantage for half his games is automatically disregarded?

he's having the best year in the league...he's been outstanding anywhere he's played...i guess a rockie should never win mvp?

[El Nino]

he's having the best year in the league...he's been outstanding anywhere he's played...i guess a rockie should never win mvp?

Not saying that, just saying you have to handicap the fact that he hits in the most hitter friendly park in the NL and his power #'s will be inflated. Throw in that I have the Rockies finishing 3rd in the west, Unless he continues this clip and puts up mind blowing #'s, he's not getting the MVP. Voters want players that lead their team to the post season.

[stevenash]

and its invalid....he's the best player in the league on the road

and thurman munson in the same conversation as johnny bench

You know Munson hit almost .30 points higher lifetime than Bench had more power yes, but Munson hit for average better.
If Munson doesn't die in that air crash, he winds up with just the same amount of gold gloves.
They were both rookie of the years and MVP award winners.
Big difference is, for most of his life Munson played with horseshit teams, Bench was always surrounded by all-stars.
Speaking of which, Munson was a 7 (in 10 years) all star.

Umm, yeah, they belong in the same conversation.

[jnickell100]

Are you talking Carlos Gomez? If yet to hear anybody refer to him as Car-Go and I live in Wisconsin.

No. Carlos Gonzalez from Colorado Rockies. It's pretty widely know that he's car go

[nvrlose37]

he's having the best year in the league...he's been outstanding anywhere he's played...i guess a rockie should never win mvp?

That's why they gave it to Rollins and not Holliday in 2007, such a bias to the stadium when there are just as many batter friendly ballparks around the league, including Yankee Stadium. You don't see anyone down playing Yankee accomplishments for their little league stadium.