1. 04-03-13 08:18 PM #1
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    What would you do if you had Josh Smith on your team?

    Here's his current line:

    8 points, 4-12 from the field, 0-3 from 3, 0-7 at the line.

    OH FOR FVCKING SEVEN. Fvcking idiot is hitting 52% of his free throws this year. He's 30% from three, which is actually an improvement over his career 28% average.



    Too much weed today, Joshie.

    Read this article. I thought it was from The Onion. Is ESPN serious with this bullshit?

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/90...ard-josh-smith



    "The question was asked to me, 'Do I feel like I'm a max player?'" Smith continued. "And I gave him an honest answer. I said, 'Yes I do.' And the reason why I say this, is because if you don't know your worth, who will? I can't set my standards low. If you set them low, that's how people are going to view you. Like when you sell a house, you don't sell the house for $2 million. You put the $5 million sticker on there … and then you work it out. You negotiate."

    Wow.
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    Cant take a trick with this sport currently..
    Take Spurs h2h heavy before lebron & wade pull out only to get crushed by a Bosh 3...
    Now i take the Hawks h2h heavy in a letdown spot on a b2b for the Knicks & get crushed by an inept Josh Smith
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Here's his current line:

    8 points, 4-12 from the field, 0-3 from 3, 0-7 at the line.

    OH FOR FVCKING SEVEN. Fvcking idiot is hitting 52% of his free throws this year. He's 30% from three, which is actually an improvement over his career 28% average.



    Too much weed today, Joshie.

    Read this article. I thought it was from The Onion. Is ESPN serious with this bullshit?

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/90...ard-josh-smith



    "The question was asked to me, 'Do I feel like I'm a max player?'" Smith continued. "And I gave him an honest answer. I said, 'Yes I do.' And the reason why I say this, is because if you don't know your worth, who will? I can't set my standards low. If you set them low, that's how people are going to view you. Like when you sell a house, you don't sell the house for $2 million. You put the $5 million sticker on there … and then you work it out. You negotiate."

    Wow.
    nothing about that quote is surprising at all. thats just basic negotiating.
    u dont think bynum is gonna start his negotiations from the max either?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsmithj88 View Post
    nothing about that quote is surprising at all. thats just basic negotiating.
    u think bynum is gonna take anything less than the max after his year off?
    It's just hilarious the opinion he has of himself.

    What's even more amazing is that some team will be dumb enough to grant him his wishes and give that bum a monster contract.

    He is everything that is wrong with the state of the NBA today. Surface stat guy with a me-first attitude who does nothing to help a team win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    It's just hilarious the opinion he has of himself.

    What's even more amazing is that some team will be dumb enough to grant him his wishes and give that bum a monster contract.

    He is everything that is wrong with the state of the NBA today. Surface stat guy with a me-first attitude who does nothing to help a team win.
    the dude is actually a good player. but hes not a leader, franchise, superstar, etc etc.
    no team will win anything worthwhile with him as their best player
    if people value their cap space, they wont give him the max
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsmithj88 View Post
    the dude is actually a good player. but hes not a leader, franchise, superstar, etc etc.
    no team will win anything worthwhile with him as their best player
    if people value their cap space, they wont give him the max
    agree with all of this. this guy just does the minimum for what hes capable of doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsmithj88 View Post
    the dude is actually a good player. but hes not a leader, franchise, superstar, etc etc.
    no team will win anything worthwhile with him as their best player
    if people value their cap space, they wont give him the max
    How, exactly, is he a "good player"? Because his surface stats look pretty?

    It takes about 5 minutes of watching an Atlanta game to realize he's far from a "good player" relative to what he thinks he is and the contract he thinks he deserves.

    Like I said, I almost guarantee some team like the Pistons will be dumb enough to fall into the Josh Smith trap.
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    he needs to go somewhere and be the 2nd best player
    he will thrive in the role
    but like i said in some other thread about lebron and the heat
    most people want to be paid first and complain about winning second
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    How, exactly, is he a "good player"? Because his surface stats look pretty?

    It takes about 5 minutes of watching an Atlanta game to realize he's far from a "good player" relative to what he thinks he is and the contract he thinks he deserves.

    Like I said, I almost guarantee some team like the Pistons will be dumb enough to fall into the Josh Smith trap.
    the first thing u did was post his stats for the night to trash him, so stats shud work both ways
    hes a good player, his stats indicate that
    hes also 6'9 , athletic, can defend, and ooooooccasionally hit a jumper
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsmithj88 View Post
    the first thing u did was post his stats for the night to trash him, so stats shud work both ways
    hes a good player, his stats indicate that
    hes also 6'9 , athletic, can defend, and ooooooccasionally hit a jumper
    He can't make a jump shot. What good is he if he shoots 50% at the line, less than 30 from three and has a shitty attitude? That constitutes a "good player"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    He can't make a jump shot. What good is he if he shoots 50% at the line, less than 30 from three and has a shitty attitude? That constitutes a "good player"?
    those things describe dwight howard as well and hes a franchise player
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsmithj88 View Post
    those things describe dwight howard as well and hes a franchise player
    Far be it for me to defend Dwight Howard, but this has to be one of the worst apples to oranges comparisons ever on this board. Their situations aren't even remotely comparable aside from their horrible attitudes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Far be it for me to defend Dwight Howard, but this has to be one of the worst apples to oranges comparisons ever on this board. Their situations aren't even remotely comparable aside from their horrible attitudes.
    u made a statement and i made a VERY accurate comparison
    in fact both players play in the front court and are almost the same height
    wats the so "apple and orange" about it?
    we arent comparing shaq to kobe
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    the celtics made the playoffs.. yay!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsmithj88 View Post
    u made a statement and i made a VERY accurate comparison
    in fact both players play in the front court and are almost the same height
    wats the so "apple and orange" about it?
    we arent comparing shaq to kobe
    LOL -- what? Josh Smith is a 6-9, 225 wing. Howard is a 6-11, 270 center.
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    Josh Smith belongs on mediocre teams his entire career. If he goes to a big name team he better not be expected to be more than a #3 option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Josh Smith belongs on mediocre teams his entire career. If he goes to a big name team he better not be expected to be more than a #3 option.
    He's better off padding his stats with no pressure and toiling away in obscurity, while feeding the media bullshit soundbytes about "only caring about winning."
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    LOL -- what? Josh Smith is a 6-9, 225 wing. Howard is a 6-11, 270 center.
    like i said almost the same height
    josh smith has play sf AND pf on the undersized hawks team

    "He can't make a jump shot. What good is he if he shoots 50% at the line, less than 30 from three and has a shitty attitude?

    which part of YOUR quote does not apply to howard again?
    let me know i and will conceed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsmithj88 View Post
    like i said almost the same height
    josh smith has play sf AND pf on the undersized hawks team

    "He can't make a jump shot. What good is he if he shoots 50% at the line, less than 30 from three and has a shitty attitude?

    which part of YOUR quote does not apply to howard again?
    let me know i and will conceed.
    They aren't even remotely the same player.

    I can't even believe I'm having this conversation.

    Josh Smith and Dwight Howard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    They aren't even remotely the same player.

    I can't even believe I'm having this conversation.

    Josh Smith and Dwight Howard?
    u are missing the point. u named a couple negatives as to why josh is not a good player
    i used howard because those negatives mirror his as well and howard is the best center in the nba
    so u have a big hole in ur argument whether u want to accept it or not
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsmithj88 View Post
    u are missing the point. u named a couple negatives as to why josh is not a good player
    i used howard because those negatives mirror his as well and howard is the best center in the nba
    so u have a big hole in ur argument whether u want to accept it or not
    What exactly is your point? Because Howard is a "franchise player," that means Smith is as well? I don't even understand what you're trying to say -- aside from the fact that you're comparing a 225-pound 3 to a 270-pound 5 just because they both have shitty attitudes (unless I've been missing Dwight Howard hanging out at the 3-point line and chucking bad shots lately, or Smith blocking a ton of shots on the low blocks).
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    the point is a player with those negative can STILL BE A GOOD PLAYER
    example DWIGHT HOWARD HAS THE SAME NEGATIVES and he is THE BEST CENTER IN THE NBA

    JOSH SMITH WITH THOSE NEGATVIES IS STILL A GOOD PLAYER
    u want to disregard is since one is a center and the other is a SF be my guest
    but here we go with more facts:

    josh smith is top 10 of these categories vs other SF
    SCORING
    BLOCKS
    REBOUNDS
    ASSISTS
    FG%
    STEALS ( ok, he is 11th)

    i guess those are the qualities of a bad player ??
    i dont even wanna make this argument, i dont even like josh smith, but ur views are not accurate
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    Just another hood rat with no heart collecting a paycheck. Dude will always be a loser and likely flat broke 2 years after retiring. Guys like this are a dime a dozen in the Nba. He has "talent" but no killer instinct and stupid to boot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by R.P. McMurphy View Post
    Just another hood rat with no heart collecting a paycheck. Dude will always be a loser and likely flat broke 2 years after retiring. Guys like this are a dime a dozen in the Nba. He has "talent" but no killer instinct and stupid to boot!
    dont disagree with most of that.
    problem with josh is he really hasnt improved his game since hes been in the nba
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    He's just a nutcase....I don't blame him. There are many players in this league who know they have just enough talent to make good money in this business and don't need to work their ass off.

    He does enough to get his money, and if teams wanna offer him more, he will gladly take it. Can't expect everyone in the league to have the passion and commitment that some of the top players do.
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    Knicks fan here and I swear every time I watch the Knicks play the Hawks, Josh Smith is the most useless player on the court. Not saying he doesn't do his thing other nights, but my god.
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    Hilarious that the NBA had him do the "passion" ad which comes up on League Pass at times during timeouts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sport_Fish View Post
    He's just a nutcase....I don't blame him. There are many players in this league who know they have just enough talent to make good money in this business and don't need to work their ass off.

    He does enough to get his money, and if teams wanna offer him more, he will gladly take it. Can't expect everyone in the league to have the passion and commitment that some of the top players do.
    Seriously I am sure a lot of these guys get over trying to win a ship or whatever once they get into the league. Only this topic would show up on a gambling forum where we expect every player to play with heart because we lay money on their team. hilarious
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    Quote Originally Posted by Git Lo View Post
    Seriously I am sure a lot of these guys get over trying to win a ship or whatever once they get into the league. Only this topic would show up on a gambling forum where we expect every player to play with heart because we lay money on their team. hilarious
    Bingo. If I don't always go 110% at my job everyday, why the hell should I expect somebody who's already paid to do it?
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    hes a dumb player. i would trade him asap. PASSION? where? that ad is a fail. KG is passionate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Git Lo View Post
    Seriously I am sure a lot of these guys get over trying to win a ship or whatever once they get into the league. Only this topic would show up on a gambling forum where we expect every player to play with heart because we lay money on their team. hilarious
    EXACTLY. so many dumb posters on this forum think players shud always give 100% effort because they lost their bets
    people must have forgotten nba contracts are guarenteed
    whether they are kobe, who plays hurt, or ur derrick rose, whos waiting for signs from god
    u will get paid.
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    I would say suck it whitey!
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