[milwaukee mike]

When he makes a game winner there is silence.

If he missed it there would be 1000 posts about how much he chokes

[William Walters]

MM........what you say is true..........and there is no doubt that James is the best player in the league at this time. But, tonight is about Kobe.

42 points....14-21 from the field
12 assists
7 boards

At his age......on those legs........over 200 playoff games in his pocket......the tear he's been on is amazing.

[The Giant]

Mike, if I offered you the Miami Heat or the field to win the title, who do you choose?

[g_sept1]

MM........what you say is true..........and there is no doubt that James is the best player in the league at this time. But, tonight is about Kobe.

42 points....14-21 from the field
12 assists
7 boards

At his age......on those legs........over 200 playoff games in his pocket......the tear he's been on is amazing.

[Louisvillekid1]

Dam magic +1750 almost cashed

[InTheDrink]

When he makes a game winner there is silence.

If he missed it there would be 1000 posts about how much he chokes

hard to hate on a team with such a long winning streak but common now, orlando was 17-43 going in...second worst team in the league

never should have been in the position

[milwaukee mike]

Mike, if I offered you the Miami Heat or the field to win the title, who do you choose?

Interesting question. Back when the bulls were 8-5 or so the last 2 championships i took them both times, because they had no real potential challenge until the finals. I think the same is true about the heat, the chances of anyone beating them in the eastern conf playoffs are close to 0.

So if nobody else ever had a line, i would take miami.
I'm pretty sure miami is around +120 at some shops though?

[The Giant]

Interesting question. Back when the bulls were 8-5 or so the last 2 championships i took them both times, because they had no real potential challenge until the finals. I think the same is true about the heat, the chances of anyone beating them in the eastern conf playoffs are close to 0.

So if nobody else ever had a line, i would take miami.
I'm pretty sure miami is around +120 at some shops though?

Yeah, they are right around +120. And I agree with you, I would take Miami before the field.

[GUMMO77]

hard to hate on a team with such a long winning streak but common now,

The NBA is watered down now.

[Mikeyanks23]

Fukkin lebron cost me what would of been a nice cash on magic ml

[Bman1991]

Dam magic +1750 almost cashed

Don't worry, they'll lose to the pacers on sunday, guarantee it.

[Bman1991]

^^
What a strong first post,lol.

[jsmithj88]

hard to hate on a team with such a long winning streak but common now, orlando was 17-43 going in...second worst team in the league

never should have been in the position

like u said, they won a million games in a row
its hard to stay focused esp if ur opponent is not very good
they got bored but still won

[InTheDrink]

Bman are you a ghost

Bman where did you come from

Bman tell us your strengths and weaknesses

Bman what's your heritage

Bman what's the weirdest thing you're into

Bman what are your hobbies

Bman this could be serious :

[milwaukee mike]

bman's first post was a random guarantee about something he has no control of

so the possibilities of his former handle are endless

[InTheDrink]

Bman are you out there gye?

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

Was this lebrons 3rd game winner in 10 years?

vs GS reg season
vs magic playoffs
vs magiclast night

[milwaukee mike]

Was this lebrons 3rd game winner in 10 years?

vs GS reg season
vs magic playoffs
vs magiclast night

um sorry but lebron had 17 game winners in the final possession as of a year ago

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/mia...r-kevin-durant

[InTheDrink]

um sorry but lebron had 17 game winners in the final possession as of a year ago

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/mia...r-kevin-durant

this is crazy!

durant averaged over a point a minute last year in the last 3 minutes of close games

Situation: final minute, game within three points. Statistics are per 48 minutes.
(Note: average field goal percentage -- 36.1 percent)

	MIN	FG%	3FG%	FT%	REB	AST	TO	PTS	+/-	Usg%	eFG%	PER
Durant	83	44.9	29.6	80.0	8.7	0.6	2.9	59.0	28.9	47.7	50.0	39.5
James	63	42.9	50.0	65.5	17.5	11.4	4.6	41.9	22.1	36.7	51.4	36.4

[darkhat]

Like phil jackson says he has an asterisk by his championship cause it wasn't a full season

if he wins championship he will only need a handful more to catch kobe, than jordan

[riffraff24]

The correct question in the original post should have been "Why are the Heat getting as much credit as they are?"

Did we all forget the Spurs win streak 1 season ago? Did we all forget the Spurs still have the best record despite Miami's run?

I didn't. Let's be real. LBJ and the Heat are Stern's Mr. Bigglesworth.

[milwaukee mike]

The correct question in the original post should have been "Why are the Heat getting as much credit as they are?"

Did we all forget the Spurs win streak 1 season ago? Did we all forget the Spurs still have the best record despite Miami's run?

I didn't. Let's be real. LBJ and the Heat are Stern's Mr. Bigglesworth.

good points

if a couple of teams like the spurs/thunder/clippers were in the east, miami's record and chances of winning it all might be quite a bit different

[ramones951]

Like phil jackson says he has an asteruisk by his championship cause it wasn't a full season

I love Phil Jackson but that's a fukkin joke... the NBA season starts in the playoffs and he knows it. Who cares the meaningless regular season was 16 games shorter

[k13]

Is it that hard to make a lay up these days?

If he took a shot he would have missed it.

[MiamiNative305]

All u Miami haters can go suck a fat one LeBron is the best player in the NBA right now and will be for a while and the Miami heat are gonna keep winning games and they are gonna make it to the finals again no matter how many I hate Miami-LeBron threads u guys make and the fact of the matter is ever since the big 3 got together the team roster has gotten better and better so u know what penetrate yal stop hating

[milwaukee mike]

Is it that hard to make a lay up these days?

If he took a shot he would have missed it.

he beat everyone on the magic on his way to the hoop, 1 on 5

if it were that easy to make a layup in the closing seconds of an nba game (where almost no defensive fouls are going to be called) then everyone would do it, rather than shooting jump shots

[milwaukee mike]

And lebron hits another game winner

Only 2000 more and people might stop saying he chokes at the end of games (takes a lot to overcome incorrect stereotypes, because people hate to admit they were wrong)

[BigDeem5]

I have said since the day he took the cavs to eastern Conf finals and the championship with 0 players he may be the best of all time, the guy is lethal.

[BennyBigNuts]

When he makes a game winner there is silence.

If he missed it there would be 1000 posts about how much he chokes

Hardcore NBA fans hate LEbron because he cheated the game of basketball.
His rings will never mean anything in Miami.
People want to see him lose for what he did.
He is without a doubt the 2nd best player in the history of the game, but it was basically equivalent to doing steroids in baseball, making a deal between friends to beef up a team, then getting a bunch of yearning followers at the end of their careers also sign for less money to get a tainted ring as well.
It's sad, and it's the truth.
Lebron will never get the respect of any old school NBA players, or actual fans of the games itself, in general.

[Frisco]

And lebron hits another game winner

Only 2000 more and people might stop saying he chokes at the end of games (takes a lot to overcome incorrect stereotypes, because people hate to admit they were wrong)

What he did against the Mavs in the 4th quarters of those Finals games is choking at its finest. Guy has 1 ring against an up and coming thunder team that was completely over matched.

[Easy-Rider 66]

Still partial to Jordan being the best of all time, but Lebron will go down with the all time great players when he is done.

[mikemca]

Hardcore NBA fans hate LEbron because he cheated the game of basketball.
His rings will never mean anything in Miami.
People want to see him lose for what he did.
He is without a doubt the 2nd best player in the history of the game, but it was basically equivalent to doing steroids in baseball, making a deal between friends to beef up a team, then getting a bunch of yearning followers at the end of their careers also sign for less money to get a tainted ring as well.
It's sad, and it's the truth.
Lebron will never get the respect of any old school NBA players, or actual fans of the games itself, in general.

How was this any different?There are also plenty of teams where bringing in the superstar didn't work too well(Lakers,Knicks).Its not like the Heat are unbeatable.The Pacers ,Celtics,and Thunder all had their chances last years playoffs.

[Pete0]

****dont know about Lebron, but I do notice something missing

[milwaukee mike]

^^ good point mikemca

i guess the lakers wins from the 70s should all be forfeited because they took kareem from the bucks

[BennyBigNuts]

How was this any different?There are also plenty of teams where bringing in the superstar didn't work too well(Lakers,Knicks).Its not like the Heat are unbeatable.The Pacers ,Celtics,and Thunder all had their chances last years playoffs.

Not even close to the same comparison.
They didn't team up in the off-season, maneuver paycuts, as well as recruit other minimum wage role-players willing to come for less money to IF it happened.
The Celtics didn't scam their team, they built it with no funny business. And it's not like any of those 3 players in that picture were EVER a top 5 NBA player. Heat had 2 of the top 5 when it happened (Wade has faded to a top 20 player now).