[HardCore]

im on bos+4 and lal+4... i know im an idiot but im sorry its too easy and its the 1st weekend without football and its abc's 1st sunday of the season...the fix is on 1 of them maybe both. Listin okc has beaten la 2x this season but both were when la was hurt. The 1st gm at okc there was no gasol and nash and the 2nd gm howard and gasol were out...that means a lot dispite what alot of you laker haters fail to understand. And as far as bos go...lol i shouldnt have to explain this 1 mia goes to bos I repeat TO BOSTON on national tv when bos is completely healthy and more importantly desperate. Did i mention the hate factor BOSTON HATES MIAMI they will play this like its gm 7 and im sorry but bos gotta wi eventually and mia's luck gotta run put eventually so im taking the old/hall of fame dogs even tho common sense says otherwise

[Easy-Rider 66]

Would take the 3.5 with Boston. Laying off the OKC game.

[HardCore]

you know what im not done being an idiot i got more dumb shit to say. Why are mia and okc both 3 1/2pt favs on the road against these so called trash ass teams. lets all be real here mia should not be favored at bos period. If bos had won like 3/4 of the last 7 to have a respectable record they would be 2-3pt favs against miami, just look at the numbers and not the names on the jersys nd you'll see what im talking about.

[HardCore]

the lines just dont make sense the 2 #1 seed per conference are only 3.5 favs against an 8seed whos 3gms under .500 and the other team isnt even i playoff contention atm. Okc were 9.5 favs against the kings who are only a gm worst than LA lol now there 3.5 favs against la after blowing them out 2x already lol F$uck outta hear

[HardCore]

Would take the 3.5 with Boston. Laying off the OKC game.

glade someone doesnt think im crazy

[PS3]

I have C's too man. I just can't take the Lakers, very enigmatic team.

[maroona]

Your not crazy man, both plays make perfect sense

[DallasMaverick41]

I like the Boston +4 even though I know it won't cash.
Boston has struggled all season and they can't find anything going offensively for them right now and they really need Ray Allen back. Even then, I don't think Ray Ray can solve their problems.

Miami is superior offensively while lacking that inside presence that both Bass and Garnett are going to take advantage of. Rondo has been improving his mid-range jumper and going to run the P&R a lot with Garnett, watch. I think Boston can keep it close but Miami will finish off Boston on the break and ultimately beat them in the fourth quarter.

Taking LAL is a facepalm move. People on this forum have picked the Lakers to win against worse teams than OKC such as Toronto and The Lakers couldn't even keep it close and the outcome of the game was obvious after the first quarter. I think Lakers will pick up the intensity though, but even if the Lakers were playing as they should be, OKC would still win because Nash is too slow for Westbrook and Durant is unguardable by all measures. To even think Lakers will win is a disgrace to the Oklahoma city Thunder organization. Westbrook loves the spotlight, especially if he's getting it in Los Angeles. No doubt OKC will come out with a win, Lakers will play tough and keep it close at times, but OKC pulls out with a win. I don't think Lakers will lose by a margin as small as 4 tonight.

Best of luck to you

[HardCore]

I like the Boston +4 even though I know it won't cash.
Boston has struggled all season and they can't find anything going offensively for them right now and they really need Ray Allen back. Even then, I don't think Ray Ray can solve their problems.

Miami is superior offensively while lacking that inside presence that both Bass and Garnett are going to take advantage of. Rondo has been improving his mid-range jumper and going to run the P&R a lot with Garnett, watch. I think Boston can keep it close but Miami will finish off Boston on the break and ultimately beat them in the fourth quarter.

Taking LAL is a facepalm move. People on this forum have picked the Lakers to win against worse teams than OKC such as Toronto and The Lakers couldn't even keep it close and the outcome of the game was obvious after the first quarter. I think Lakers will pick up the intensity though, but even if the Lakers were playing as they should be, OKC would still win because Nash is too slow for Westbrook and Durant is unguardable by all measures. To even think Lakers will win is a disgrace to the Oklahoma city Thunder organization. Westbrook loves the spotlight, especially if he's getting it in Los Angeles. No doubt OKC will come out with a win, Lakers will play tough and keep it close at times, but OKC pulls out with a win. I don't think Lakers will lose by a margin as small as 4 tonight.

Best of luck to you

you make alotta sense but where the win for vegas they dont just give out free money im sorry im not falling for it. I just want someone to explain to me why the lines arent moving with all of earth and all the other 8 planets on mia/okc why are the lines still at 3.5

[DallasMaverick41]

you make alotta sense but where the win for vegas they dont just give out free money im sorry im not falling for it. I just want someone to explain to me why the lines arent moving with all of earth and all the other 8 planets on mia/okc why are the lines still at 3.5

Was 3 the very minute they opened and went up by .5
Although a negligible increase, still went up somewhat.

Honestly, both the Miami/Boston and Lakers/OKC games are shady to me and I'd walk away from betting today.

Also, since I was talking about Ray Allen, I would imagine that playing back in TD Garden for the first time after he signed with Miami will bring back memories of nailing every three. Hopefully he shoots lights out tonight and puts on a show. It's wishful thinking though. I wonder how Boston fans will take to seeing Allen for the first time in a Miami uniform after he signed for less with them.

[maroona]

I like the Boston +4 even though I know it won't cash.
Boston has struggled all season and they can't find anything going offensively for them right now and they really need Ray Allen back. Even then, I don't think Ray Ray can solve their problems.

Miami is superior offensively while lacking that inside presence that both Bass and Garnett are going to take advantage of. Rondo has been improving his mid-range jumper and going to run the P&R a lot with Garnett, watch. I think Boston can keep it close but Miami will finish off Boston on the break and ultimately beat them in the fourth quarter.

Taking LAL is a facepalm move. People on this forum have picked the Lakers to win against worse teams than OKC such as Toronto and The Lakers couldn't even keep it close and the outcome of the game was obvious after the first quarter. I think Lakers will pick up the intensity though, but even if the Lakers were playing as they should be, OKC would still win because Nash is too slow for Westbrook and Durant is unguardable by all measures. To even think Lakers will win is a disgrace to the Oklahoma city Thunder organization. Westbrook loves the spotlight, especially if he's getting it in Los Angeles. No doubt OKC will come out with a win, Lakers will play tough and keep it close at times, but OKC pulls out with a win. I don't think Lakers will lose by a margin as small as 4 tonight.

Best of luck to you

With all due respect, you don't need all this analysis, the lines are 3.5 and 3 and they haven't moved, its simple

[DallasMaverick41]

With all due respect, you don't need all this analysis, the lines are 3.5 and 3 and they haven't moved, its simple

I'm sipping coffee on a sunday morning, I don't have anything better to do.

[Easy-Rider 66]

I'm sipping coffee on a sunday morning, I don't have anything better to do.

Keep up with the analysis. It's much preferred to know why someone takes a stand then to just post a play and say it's a lock.

[DallasMaverick41]

Keep up with the analysis. It's much preferred to know why someone takes a stand then to just post a play and say it's a lock.

Thanks.
Even if the Lakers lived up to the expectations and hype when they first formed, I don't think they could beat OKC.

[maroona]

Keep up with the analysis. It's much preferred to know why someone takes a stand then to just post a play and say it's a lock.

Nothings a lock but unless Vegas have decided to give away some serious cash today these 2 games seem obvious which way to go

[Checkerboard]

If I were Vegas, I wouldn't mind giving 'free $' away to Joe P given that he is likely to blow it back -- often as early as later the same day. I'd want to watch giving 'free $' away to people who let their play come to them, hit it, and have a propensity for taking their $ and running.

[DallasMaverick41]

Nothings a lock but unless Vegas have decided to give away some serious cash today these 2 games seem obvious which way to go

People overthinking and fading them are what's making Vegas money today.

[pouyasophy]

look at my thread..not crazy at all...about 85% on both favorites...good luck

[PAULYPOKER]

im on bos+4 and lal+4... i know im an idiot but im sorry its too easy and its the 1st weekend without football and its abc's 1st sunday of the season...the fix is on 1 of them maybe both. Listin okc has beaten la 2x this season but both were when la was hurt. The 1st gm at okc there was no gasol and nash and the 2nd gm howard and gasol were out...that means a lot dispite what alot of you laker haters fail to understand. And as far as bos go...lol i shouldnt have to explain this 1 mia goes to bos I repeat TO BOSTON on national tv when bos is completely healthy and more importantly desperate. Did i mention the hate factor BOSTON HATES MIAMI they will play this like its gm 7 and im sorry but bos gotta wi eventually and mia's luck gotta run put eventually so im taking the old/hall of fame dogs even tho common sense says otherwise

I am only laughing because you are not on the Bosron ML...................

+150 is a lot of loot to be left on the table my friend...............

As for the Lakeshow,

I am holding back on my thoughts............

[HardCore]

Nothings a lock but unless Vegas have decided to give away some serious cash today these 2 games seem obvious which way to go

thats why i made the thread lol bos/la are the plays i doubt very seriously vegas is just gonna let mia and okc win/cover today no way especially with there being no football to bet on the degenerites have to bet on something..hmm the 2 #1 seeds are playing these scrub below .500 teams...u do the math plus the F lines arent moving yesterday Tor goes up a point Ny went up a 1.5 and clips went from +2 to -1 lol but yet only.5 movement on todays gms yea penetrating right

[DallasMaverick41]

thats why i made the thread lol bos/la are the plays i doubt very seriously vegas is just gonna let mia and okc win/cover today no way especially with there being no football to bet on the degenerites have to bet on something..hmm the 2 #1 seeds are playing these scrub below .500 teams...u do the math plus the F lines arent moving yesterday Tor goes up a point Ny went up a 1.5 and clips went from +2 to -1 lol but yet only.5 movement on todays gms yea penetrating right

I'll come back to this thread once I get my cash from OKC beating the Lakers and see if you'd like to come and celebrate alongside the people who choose to make the obvious bet which was betting OKC -3.

[HardCore]

I'll come back to this thread once I get my cash from OKC beating the Lakers and see if you'd like to come and celebrate alongside the people who choose to make the obvious bet which was betting OKC -3.

lol we shall see my friend we shall see

[maroona]

People overthinking and fading them are what's making Vegas money today.

C'mon man, both nationally televised games, you don't think they're looking to suck in some dumb public money on these games

[PAULYPOKER]

C'mon man, both nationally televised games, you don't think they're looking to suck in some dumb public money on these games

I wish it were this easy,

however either OKC or Miami could cover the ATS or possibly both...

The consensus info that is fed to the public is far from being accurate..............

I like the Celtics to either win or not cover the ATS,

I think the Lakers will lose but might cover the ATS if OKC puts the brakes on in the 4th..............

[chopperocker]

http://pregame.com/sportsbook_spy/default.aspx

Celtics/Lakers moneyline parlay risk 1u to win 4.88u

[DallasMaverick41]

OKC is the most bet on ATS game today with 84%
I got OKC -1

[maroona]

I wish it were this easy,

however either OKC or Miami could cover the ATS or possibly both...

The consensus info that is fed to the public is far from being accurate..............

I like the Celtics to either win or not cover the ATS,

I think the Lakers will lose but might cover the ATS if OKC puts the brakes on in the 4th..............

Use common sense and the consensus info that is fed to us and as much of it as possible and it still suggests to me that these lines are looking to suck in the public..but we'll see very soon..

[PAULYPOKER]

http://pregame.com/sportsbook_spy/default.aspx

Celtics/Lakers moneyline parlay risk 1u to win 4.88u

01/20/13
NFL
Date	Pick	#	Team	Open	Spread	ML	Total	Bet#	Spread%	ML%	Total%	Exotics%
01/20/13	Make Pick See Picks	301	San Francisco	3	0	-180	48.0	131814	60%	62%	75%	64%
3:05PM	302	Atlanta	47	0	+160	48.0	40%	38%	25%	36%
01/20/13	Make Pick See Picks	303	Baltimore	51	0	+265	50.0	140121	58%	53%	72%	62%
6:30PM	304	New England	9	0	-325	50.0	42%	47%	28%	38%

[HardCore]

01/20/13
NFL
Date	Pick	#	Team	Open	Spread	ML	Total	Bet#	Spread%	ML%	Total%	Exotics%
01/20/13	Make Pick See Picks	301	San Francisco	3	0	-180	48.0	131814	60%	62%	75%	64%
3:05PM	302	Atlanta	47	0	+160	48.0	40%	38%	25%	36%
01/20/13	Make Pick See Picks	303	Baltimore	51	0	+265	50.0	140121	58%	53%	72%	62%
6:30PM	304	New England	9	0	-325	50.0	42%	47%	28%	38%

what u trying to say?

[PAULYPOKER]

what u trying to say?

If consensuses were true and accurate,

Vegas and all books would have been buried last Sunday,


The NFL takes in over 10 times the amount of wagering money as the NBA or any other sport for that matter......

This is Fact........

[PAULYPOKER]

College football wagering comes close but no cigar when compared to NFL...........

[maroona]

If consensuses were true and accurate,

Vegas and all books would have been buried last Sunday,


The NFL takes in over 10 times the amount of wagering money as the NBA or any other sport for that matter......

This is Fact........

I have never thought consensus info is 100% accurate but it does give you an indication, also the books set a line where they will get action, not necessarily what the points difference at the end of the game will be, today they just know by setting the heat at -3.5 they will get plenty of action on them

[chopperocker]

If consensuses were true and accurate,

Vegas and all books would have been buried last Sunday,


The NFL takes in over 10 times the amount of wagering money as the NBA or any other sport for that matter......

This is Fact........

NBA
Date	#	Team	Open	Spread	ML	Total	Bet#	Spread%	ML%	Total%	Exotics
########	801	Miami	4	-3.5	-165	o 187.5 (-110)	8087	80%	98%	50%	74%
1:00PM	802	Boston	188	3.5	145	u 187.5 (-110)		20%	2%	44%	26%
########	803	Oklahoma	3½	-3	-160	o 207.5 (-110)	7273	84%	91%	50%	78%
3:30PM	804	Los Angeles Lakers	210	3	140	u 207.5 (-110)		16%	9%	36%	22%

i agree, but ill roll with the dogs today anyway.

[forzuto13]

I'm agreeing with most here that say taking L.A. against OKC is harder to do than Boston vs. Miami.
Boston keeps their games with Miami close and I can see it a 2 or 3 point game and I can see that going both ways even. Miami is also not that strong on the road this year and TD Garden is a tough place to play at.

Staples will be a challenge too but KD is going to love playing there and OKC road record is legit. They'd love to cap their west coast trip with another big win over the Lakers. Plus, Lakers fans are the worst with their love-hate relationship with the team. When their teams sucks the fans have no pride.

Celtics fans still have pride and we all know that Celtics are a playoff team. As long as they hang around to make 8th seed they're okay. I don't have to talk about the 2009/2010 season when everyone wrote them off as "too old" and KG was injured when they lost a string of games the end of the season. They went on to one game away from winning the championship.

Boston +3.5 is not a bad pick at all. I'd feel more comfortable with +4 though.

[maroona]

@SportsInsights: The #Lakers (+3.5 at CRIS) are only getting 21% of spread bets today vs. the #Thunder, their lowest spread percentage since 2006 #BetLabs