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    Quote Originally Posted by DrIn$entive View Post
    Great line! Where'd you grab that at?

    Heritage has their lines up a day in advance and usually has sweet spreads before they drop the next day so I try ro pick up my underdogs a day in advance, though that can backfire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Actually 1-14 ATS last 15 as favorites and the cover came in OT at New Orleans by 1 point.
    Wow ridcuilousness! LOL. I was on that NOH game... i think alot of us were. Good stuff though LT.

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    Bynum out today.

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    Watch we all take NJ + and LAL takes it to the house w/ or w/o Bynum by DD

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    Word, Lakers only like to cover when I bet against them.

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    Thats why I went with prop bet D Williams over 21... maybe I get burnt and the rest of you win, who knows boL

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    Quote Originally Posted by wantitall4moi View Post
    LMAO I have scoreboard and money in the bank the typical loser myopians have porn site shit and their usual fantasy.

    Last I checked they didnt pay guys for making predictions on play offs or lottery teams, they do however offer a line to fade every game these stiff play. I havent faded them every game but more than enough of them. I have said it all year, guys who paid attention probably made money, guys like JJ who play the 'due' angle are still losing their asses.

    Worst part is a least thelip service 9probably due to being confronted with actual facts) shhows that guys realize lakers are a bad team to bet on. So as a fan how does it taste knowing you cant bet against 'your' team even though you know it is free money.

    thats why guys wont win because they have very bad attitudes and no common sense. You have a team that in the past DECADE is 415-489 ATS (46%) but 569-335 SU yet probably havent bet against them because youre a 'fan'. lakers have had a single winning season ATS despite having 5 rings and 7 finals appearances in that time. So while books will obviously inflate a line they cant make them big enough to counter act the stupidity of people that continue to bet on them. Rings and play offs dont make gamblers money. Future plays and series prices on them have always been shit. But fading them even blindly has been as easy an endeavor as one can find in sports betting history.

    I am or was a GAMBLER, I bet on sporting event to make money. Hell I dont even play all that much one way action bt even a play it safe sort of guy like me recognizes that fading the lakers is as easy as it gets.
    I'm not gonna read all this... but nobody said the lakers were good against he spread. People just say you are wrong that the lakers are a lottery team. Two different things. That and being exposed for all those hooker reviews on those sites.. That's it.

    The lakers care that they win and are not a lottery team, kobe doesn't give a shit if they cover.

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    Local still has lakers -10 here (was -11) so not many people are slowing down. I am pretty much the only guy who steadily bets against the lakers. He tries jamming me for half points here and there but i call him on it. he needs the balancing because if lakers ever do start covering he will have issues.

    Bynum is a wild card. he said (before he heard about g etting fined by the team) he would 'definitely' play Tonight. Now after he gets the news he gets a fine he says he is out because of the same injury he said wasnt bad enough to keep him from playing.

    So he goes from a full practice and 'definitely' playing on Monday to now sitting out practice getting a bunch of drugs and saying he wont play. Dont be surprised to see him initiate operation shut down when he does come back.

    he thinks kobe is a ball hog and wants more shots, I dont blame him there. but he is still acting like an 18 year old kid even though he is close to 27 if not 27 now.

    Will be really interestign to see what lakers can do with him in the off season. I suspect they want to get rid of him, but couldnt do it during the season because he is seen as such a 'great' player. So they will use the excuse of getting their asses blasted in the play offs again to re-evaluate it. With no howard around it will be hard to get anyone that can 'take his place' but they really dont need a legit center, n other teams have one either. He sounds like more trouble than he is worth.

    Blessing if he doesnt miss much time and they can trick some team into thinking he is good to go going forward and they steal a couple decent guys or one decent guy and some picks for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wantitall4moi View Post
    I am pretty much the only guy who steadily bets against the lakers.
    Excuse me? There's quite a few of us that regularly bet against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhat View Post
    I'm not gonna read all this... but nobody said the lakers were good against he spread. People just say you are wrong that the lakers are a lottery team. Two different things. That and being exposed for all those hooker reviews on those sites.. That's it.

    The lakers care that they win and are not a lottery team, kobe doesn't give a shit if they cover.
    If bynum doesnt play or quits trying they still might not make it. they need at least 5 wins to make sure they make the play offs 36-30 will do it for sure. Anything under that and its a guessing game. Like I said will be interesting if they go on a 5 or 6 game losing streak against this 'weaker' portion of their monthly schedule. But if the Spurs arent resting guys and OKC arent resting guys that is realistically 4 losses right there. Then you have desperate teams like Dallas, Denver, Hou, and Phoenix in the mix. Streaking Clips (lakers play them off tonights game with no rest, clips have today off). Only gimme games are at new orleans and at golden st. Other than that they can lose any of them. Although I suspect Sactown will be lottery hunting the last game and will probably be playing cheerleaders to make sure they get more ping pong balls. So 3 wins for sure (or should be) with 11 other games in question. Although tonight seems to be an automatic win according to most people I guess. But if they lose tonight and lose the next 3 after that and then lose AT new Orleans then what? Obviously that shouldnt happen but this team hasnt been reliable all season. If bynum shuts it down or is really hurt then that adds another wrinkle. But they should still be able ot beat teams looking for lottery postion without him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainfreeze0 View Post
    Excuse me? There's quite a few of us that regularly bet against them.
    with MY guy?

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    Many bet against the lakers. Some people bet against them just because they hate them and know nothing about how they are ATS.

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    The Lake show better not cover tonight,

    if they do I'll be convinced it IS BECAUSE i'M ON THE NETS

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhat View Post
    Many bet against the lakers. Some people bet against them just because they hate them and know nothing about how they are ATS.
    if that were the case they wouldnt have the massively imbalanced ATS record they have. Seriously go find a generic dtatabse with ATS results and compare every team in the NBA over certain periods of time. From really good to really bad or improved teeams. Lakers are far and away the most consistently good bet against team there is. Books arent dumb, they adjust and adjust hard, it still isnt enough.

    You dont think the books look at the LONG history of the lakers ATS and look for ways to try and even it up? On sides they are way off, not even close to what one would expect. But on totals lakers are right around where one would think they would be. since the start of the 2002 season (the one I cited earlier) their totals are a common 461-453 O/U. it is obvious more people bet ON the lakers and the SIDE than they do on the totals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    Every team plays harder against the LAKERS.. So its not surprising.
    Only a die-hard fan could ever say something as STUPID as this and its a pathetic excuse for the Lakers poor ATS record.

    I don't know whats worse, Mayan for saying something so ridiculous or William Walters for agreeing with it.

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    LATE $$$ coming in heavy on the Lakers ATS and ML which is a good sign for Nets backers.............

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    Best thing that can happen for the books on this play is for Nets to win outright.................

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    LA in the 2nd half

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    Nets will have a chance to cover, whether it is a legit cover or a backdoor. Lakeshow aren't going to put them away IMO.

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    great comeback by the Nets have a chance to win this thing

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    Story of a gamblers life, buck the trend and let down. Glad I'm not on these games!

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    Make it 10 in a row brought to you by the best point shaving team in the league known as the Fake Show...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainfreeze0 View Post
    Heritage has their lines up a day in advance and usually has sweet spreads before they drop the next day so I try ro pick up my underdogs a day in advance, though that can backfire.
    It's not just dogs, you can find value in all types of NBA plays with Heritage early lines, albeit for only $500 per pop. I made one early play for Wednesday on 76ers Over 179, which is now 183 mostly everywhere. I am kicking myself for not betting Heat Under 203, which is now 197 at most books and 196.5 at Heritage (balancing attempt?).

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    And unlike The Greek, Heritage does not void bets and claim "bad line" when they are way off in initiating the market.

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    lol at the fakeshow shitshow

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    Nice call on NJ.

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    This is pretty amazing. The Lakers have only covered the spread once in their last 14 games as a favorite. And in that game they went to overtime, as a 4-point favorite, and got a miraculous cover in New Orleans on March 14th.

    Not counting that game, they don't have a legitimate cover as a favorite since February 29th when they pounded Minnesota.

    This reminds me of Dallas a couple of years ago when they were a great home fade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant View Post
    This is pretty amazing. The Lakers have only covered the spread once in their last 14 games as a favorite. And in that game they went to overtime, as a 4-point favorite, and got a miraculous cover in New Orleans on March 14th.

    Not counting that game, they don't have a legitimate cover as a favorite since February 29th when they pounded Minnesota.

    This reminds me of Dallas a couple of years ago when they were a great home fade.
    Lakers are a great fade period. Long term, but most definitely the past month or so. This season (54 games) theyre 34-20 SU and 18-36 ATS overall. As a fav theyre 27-10 SU and 11-26 ATS. As a dog theyre 7-10 SU and 7-10 ATS which means they dont cover unless they win SU.

    So if you like the Lakers tonight you take the ML and hope I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wantitall4moi View Post
    Lakers are a great fade period. Long term, but most definitely the past month or so. This season (54 games) theyre 34-20 SU and 18-36 ATS overall. As a fav theyre 27-10 SU and 11-26 ATS. As a dog theyre 7-10 SU and 7-10 ATS which means they dont cover unless they win SU.

    So if you like the Lakers tonight you take the ML and hope I suppose.
    This run of losses ATS must be good for your local prostitutes. Well, at least the ones that knock softly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William Walters View Post
    This run of losses ATS must be good for your local prostitutes. Well, at least the ones that knock softly.
    Ad Hominem. I can't stand your posts.

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    Clips -3 tonight then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBurk View Post
    Clips -3 tonight then?
    Polish middle it, Lakers ML & Clips -2/2.5. But you might want to wait as Clips might end up going off as a dog then you might get a scalp there somewhere. Lakers =130/135 now and look for the Clips as guys come rolling in on lakeshow tonight.

    I am going to the game so that just opens up more money making opportunities with the usual idiots that show up for those games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBurk View Post
    Clips -3 tonight then?
    Lakers are 6-8 as road underdog this year I believe....so probably not as great a spot as home favorite I'd imagine. Though playing Staples is also a factor obviously....
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