1. 03-02-12 10:23 PM #1
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    This may sound racist, but

    the black coaches in the NBA right now, collectively, are fvcking awful.
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    Corbin.
    Gentry.
    Hollins.
    Smart.
    Jackson.

    Just turrible.
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    Hollins is not all bad. Agree with the rest though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauulzcappin View Post
    Hollins is not all bad. Agree with the rest though.
    I'm not impressed with Hollins. Never have been.

    Don't get me wrong -- there are horrible white coaches in the league as well.

    But this list doesn't do the stereotypes any favors.
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    Why are they awful no coin?
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    Grizzlies should do better in the regular season with all the talent they have. From 1 to 5 they have great talent and a bench player who would start in 2/3 of the league.
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    Sharp Thread actually.....But coaching all around is at an all-time low.....I can count on one hand the amount of actual GOOD NBA coaches right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Why are they awful no coin?
    Have you watched the way they manage games?

    Of course, part of the blame is putting these guys in HC positions before they are ready. Not sure you can make an argument that any of these cats were anywhere near "seasoned" enough to be NBA coaches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyLineDawg View Post
    Sharp Thread actually.....But coaching all around is at an all-time low.....I can count on one hand the amount of actual GOOD NBA coaches right now
    True.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Have you watched the way they manage games?

    Of course, part of the blame is putting these guys in HC positions before they are ready. Not sure you can make an argument that any of these cats were anywhere near "seasoned" enough to be NBA coaches.
    What do you mean by manage games?
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    players make coaches in the association and those coaches dont have much talent bro..guess spolstra and brooks are great coaches right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    What do you mean by manage games?
    What do you mean what do I mean?

    Which of these coaches would you disagree with?

    Add the two most recent Hawks coaches to the list -- Woodson and Drew. Forgot about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidgetTossers View Post
    players make coaches in the association and those coaches dont have much talent bro..guess spolstra and brooks are great coaches right?
    Maybe that's why these teams are so erratic -- egomaniac players aren't being "coached" at all.

    Maybe that should be the theme to this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    What do you mean what do I mean?

    Which of these coaches would you disagree with?

    Add the two most recent Hawks coaches to the list -- Woodson and Drew. Forgot about them.
    What caused you to make this thread? You thought the jazz were going to lose, right?

    It comes down to players, not coaches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Maybe that's why these teams are so erratic -- egomaniac players aren't being "coached" at all.

    Maybe that should be the theme to this thread.
    well i know i would be a better coach if i had lebron, dwade, bosh, durant, westbrook, etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    What caused you to make this thread? You thought the jazz were going to lose, right?

    It comes down to players, not coaches.
    Again, that's what's wrong with this league right now.

    When's the last time a "players" team won an NBA title?
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    on another note..lebron passed the ball again with the game on the line..lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Again, that's what's wrong with this league right now.

    When's the last time a "players" team won an NBA title?
    Not sure what a "players" team is... the Mavs were a better team last year but the Heat had better talent obviously. What is a "players" team?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidgetTossers View Post
    on another note..lebron passed the ball again with the game on the line..lol
    Here's a question for all of you: do you think the Heat can win the NBA title with Spoelstra as their coach?
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Again, that's what's wrong with this league right now.

    When's the last time a "players" team won an NBA title?
    won't ever happen again..this isnt baseball or football we are talking about..thats why nba is 3rd in my eyes when it comes to sports
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Here's a question for all of you: do you think the Heat can win the NBA title with Spoelstra as their coach?
    no doubt in my mind
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Not sure what a "players" team is... the Mavs were a better team last year but the Heat had better talent obviously. What is a "players" team?
    You just said it's a "players" league -- now you want to know what I mean by "players" teams?

    The Mavs had Carlisle. The Heat had Spoelstra. The end.

    Do you think it's just a coincidence that the NBA title is won year in and year out by teams with elite coaches?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidgetTossers View Post
    no doubt in my mind
    So you think that, when the Heat get into inevitably tight playoff games against the Bulls or whoever comes out of the West, Spoelstra will deliver with late plays out of timeouts?
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    rick carlisle is elite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    You just said it's a "players" league -- now you want to know what I mean by "players" teams?

    The Mavs had Carlisle. The Heat had Spoelstra. The end.

    Do you think it's just a coincidence that the NBA title is won year in and year out by teams with elite coaches?
    Why did the pistons win when carlisle left? The Mavs had dirk. The Heat had lebron. The end.

    Did the Lakers not have the best team in '09 and '10?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidgetTossers View Post
    rick carlisle is elite?
    Rick Carlisle is widely considered to be a great bench coach, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    So you think that, when the Heat get into inevitably tight playoff games against the Bulls or whoever comes out of the West, Spoelstra will deliver with late plays out of timeouts?
    sure..either he or his asst coaches will...they dont just hand out nba jobs to anyone and i trust that pat reilly of all people knows a bit more than us about coaching
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    It starts at the top from the owner, management, to coaching to the players. The players win but if the people in charge don't have a clue is doesn't mean squat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Why did the pistons win when carlisle left? The Mavs had dirk. The Heat had lebron. The end.
    Carlisle was getting there and he was a very good coach who won a lot of games in Detroit. Larry Brown had the championship pedigree and delivered a title. Carlisle was that much more seasoned when he coached the Mavs to the title last year.

    Did the Lakers not have the best team in '09 and '10?
    Debatable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Rick Carlisle is widely considered to be a great bench coach, yes.
    i wouldnt put him anywhere near an elite coach but each to their own
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebestthereis View Post
    It starts at the top from the owner, management, to coaching to the players. The players win but if the people in charge don't have a clue is doesn't mean squat.
    Which is why there are so many pretenders out there who can look great at times but really have no shot of winning a title.

    Until they prove otherwise, the Heat fall into that category because they have a star who can't close and a head coach who doesn't have the experience necessary to win a championship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidgetTossers View Post
    i wouldnt put him anywhere near an elite coach but each to their own
    By today's standards at least -- how many are better in the NBA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    Carlisle was getting there and he was a very good coach who won a lot of games in Detroit. Larry Brown had the championship pedigree and delivered a title. Carlisle was that much more seasoned when he coached the Mavs to the title last year.



    Debatable.
    Brown had pedigree, but not the pedigree of a winner, usually because he had inferior teams like the sixers in '01. He finally had a championship caliber team in detroit and he got it done. I'm not saying coaching doesn't matter because 2004 was a combination of a great team and a great coach but in the end I am a firm believer that it's players, not plays.

    Which teams were better in 2009/10 than the lakers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Brown had pedigree, but not the pedigree of a winner, usually because he had inferior teams like the sixers in '01. He finally had a championship caliber team in detroit and he got it done. I'm not saying coaching doesn't matter because 2004 was a combination of a great team and a great coach but in the end I am a firm believer that it's players, not plays.

    Which teams were better in 2009/10 than the lakers?
    The Heat and/or Thunder have every chance in the world to prove that this season, because if history proves anything, I wouldn't count out a Bulls/Spurs final.
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    Quote Originally Posted by No coincidences View Post
    By today's standards at least -- how many are better in the NBA?
    not sure but i wouldnt put him in the same category as phil jackson and larry brown, popovich to name a few
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