[Smacksmiter]

my selection for today is ..

Oklahoma City Thunder +9 at the Phoenix Suns ... 1 unit

[Dexter]

man -like i said on pm smacksmitter - is it really worth it to do all this? you're not betting but will spend all this time reading through a huge daily thread just to track someone? when ck was hot you loved him, and now that hes running bad you hate him. this is exactly why i never tell people who to bet, or start my own thread. not worth headaches like this. you've turned something that should be fun for all, into useless bs drama.

you lost tailing someone, and are pissed - its over....move on man.

its also not about taking sides, as ive never had a problem with you - i just think you are completely out of line. trust me, there have been a few times where i even pm'd CK to chill out with some of his battles etc....

[Smacksmiter]

I am truly sorry that somehow you continue to misunderstand Dexter...It appears that you will have to find out the hard way and I am sorry for that. I never "loved" Ck and I do not "hate" him now...this is a simple record tracker so that anyone who wants to follow him at least knows what his posted record is...information is power and since I am no longer wagering I have the time on my hands to provide a valuable information service to anyone who wishes to access it...
For anyone who wishes the detailed information I am referring to, I would direct you to the Private Zone to the thread of this same name.
Best wishes to everyone and may your weather always be sunny...and remember...

The weatherman does not make the weather...he simply reports it.

[Chi_archie]

nothing wrong with reporting the record, and record of late..... for a guy that a lot of people tail....

somtimes you see a good capper, go on a bad streak for awhile....and you know he is gonna get super hot sooner or later. and people will jump on and tail him.

I never understood how people could blindly tail someone though, if i'm gonna lose money I want to know it was MY pick... and if I win money, it wouldn't be as sweet if it wasn't MY pick


but what smacky is doing, is in the spirit of sportsbookreview... full disclosure of books and how good/bad they are.

lots of newbies and young guys could come on here and see the hype around a certain handicapper and lose money because they don't see his real record. or his record of late.

now they can have more detailed info about at least one more capper

[Dexter]

I am truly sorry that somehow you continue to misunderstand Dexter...It appears that you will have to find out the hard way and I am sorry for that. I never "loved" Ck and I do not "hate" him now...this is a simple record tracker so that anyone who wants to follow him at least knows what his posted record is...information is power and since I am no longer wagering I have the time on my hands to provide a valuable information service to anyone who wishes to access it...
For anyone who wishes the detailed information I am referring to, I would direct you to the Private Zone to the thread of this same name.
Best wishes to everyone and may your weather always be sunny...and remember...

The weatherman does not make the weather...he simply reports it.

there is nothing to find out the hard way - i am my own handicapper, and i can assure you that any of ck's plays which i have used in the past 2 months (pc, heavy) have made me money. shame on you if you pounded the "secret plays"...while that seems to be a trend/system that he has done well with in the past, they are not his own natural handicapped games. thats ck's strength imo - when he has solid writeups of those pc, heavy games - they have won more than lost for what i used.

you were the guy every night that would cheer for his games with the "here we go clap clap" - lol....that kinda tells me you were in his corner at one time.

i'm done commenting on this nonsense - my thoughts have been shared, and while ck has lost credibilty in your eyes - i can assure you that you have lost any credibilty with a ton of members here. bottom line - you're bitter cause you lost a lot money using his plays. money management my friend. use it next time you dive back in. good luck.

[Dexter]

nothing wrong with reporting the record, and record of late..... for a guy that a lot of people tail....

somtimes you see a good capper, go on a bad streak for awhile....and you know he is gonna get super hot sooner or later. and people will jump on and tail him.

I never understood how people could blindly tail someone though, if i'm gonna lose money I want to know it was MY pick... and if I win money, it wouldn't be as sweet if it wasn't MY pick


but what smacky is doing, is in the spirit of sportsbookreview... full disclosure of books and how good/bad they are.

lots of newbies and young guys could come on here and see the hype around a certain handicapper and lose money because they don't see his real record. or his record of late.

now they can have more detailed info about at least one more capper

i hear what you're saying, but smack should not be posting someone elses record. if ck was the kind of guy that claimed certain %'s, or claimed he had winners that he didnt post - thats one thing. he does not do that. his style of gambling is pretty complex since he uses the fade moneyline plays on big dogs etc...those never get posted, but he has made it clear that he practices that.

if a member wants to post his record, they should do it on their own. not have some bitter member harass them and cause useless drama. i'm pretty sure smack never paid ck for his picks - so this is just a guy getting back at ck in a way he deems as justified.

[cocknocker]

How's the weather over here today, my good fellow?

Better update these records for this week, homes. you really should not haveever started putting out picks. It is only going to make you look pretty bad once we get going

[Smacksmiter]

Good day all! The day dawned sunny and bright with a massive high pressure system over a certain place in California as Ck enjoyed the sunshine posting his second winning day in the last 6 days since the weather report began...we all knew he could turn it around with a big winner, it was just a matter of time...congrats to you Sir!

No coincidence that Ck found time in his busy day to drop by the weather report and remind us to report the weather

So, to complete the report...Ck went 4-0 on posted plays and +4 units...2 of which he specified were his own selections and 2 others were him tailing other fine cappers.

Ck's cumulative posted plays record of the last 6 days now stands at 21-30-3 and -9 units plus juice.

Best wishes to him as he pushes for the magical .500 mark!

My posted plays record stands at 0-1. Play for today...The Washington Wizards at home +8 . 1 unit as usual. Good luck!

Dr 2-3

[NBA Hero]

you might be practising RLM.
you are picking the wrong team. Wizards will get sacked by the spurs. parker will have a field day. Wize doesnt like to run. spurs can lose if they chose to, same goes with lakers.

good thing you are not putting money on your pick.

GL with your picks dude

[Chi_archie]

GL smacky

[Willie Bee]

Hmmm, looks like an incomplete weather report to me as there is no mention of units won/lost, and no mention of anyone betting -110 or -120 or -105. If you're going to report the weather, then let's make sure it's a complete and full weather report. Doesn't do anyone any good to just know if it's cloudy or sunny.

[Smacksmiter]

Hmmm, looks like an incomplete weather report to me as there is no mention of units won/lost, and no mention of anyone betting -110 or -120 or -105. If you're going to report the weather, then let's make sure it's a complete and full weather report. Doesn't do anyone any good to just know if it's cloudy or sunny.

I have edited the above weather report to show unit status... I will do my best to include the information regarding the occasional money line play in the future. Thanks for the tip Willie Bee and I apologize for the accidental omission.

[cocknocker]

How's the weather over here today?

[simran10]

Weather looks bad today...with thunder and lightning...lots of rain expected...thanks to your wizards pick...hehehe....looks like we all can make tons of cash by opposing ck....go spurs...go go go...

[cocknocker]

And so what are you going to say when they cover, simran10? As bad as it looks they are only 3 shots off the pace.

[cocknocker]

Okay, okay, so the reverse movement didn't work on this game, lol!

[simran10]

haha..a whopping 31 point victory for spurs...tats like more than a cover of 4 times over their handicap....
sigh...better luck next time, kiddo ck....
bad call on wizards...tomm will be another bad call on boston...

[NBA Hero]

but GS pick is the right call even if i didnt bite.GS has ben a hot commodity at home. they need to be tougher at the 4th

[mmike032]

nothing wrong with reporting the record, and record of late..... for a guy that a lot of people tail....

somtimes you see a good capper, go on a bad streak for awhile....and you know he is gonna get super hot sooner or later. and people will jump on and tail him.

I never understood how people could blindly tail someone though, if i'm gonna lose money I want to know it was MY pick... and if I win money, it wouldn't be as sweet if it wasn't MY pick


but what smacky is doing, is in the spirit of sportsbookreview... full disclosure of books and how good/bad they are.

lots of newbies and young guys could come on here and see the hype around a certain handicapper and lose money because they don't see his real record. or his record of late.

now they can have more detailed info about at least one more capper

solid post, afterall someone that claims to be the best NBA capper should at least keep a record to back their claims
must be a coincedence that the secret plays are no longer being listed

[Smacksmiter]

I have found that there are very few coincidences in life...unless you count the coincidence where I made my selection of Washington and only afterward did I check Cks thread and find he had selected them also... ...guess I will have to check his thread beforehand to make sure that doesnt happen again..lol..

[cocknocker]

Don't worry Smacky it was a bad beat, the reverse line movement didn't work this time, and for the record mmike032, I never claimed to be the best capper in the forum, just one of the best at managing money. I have been doing this exclusively for quite awhile now, and I have always done well enough to hold my own. The Secret Play is a season long system wager. Now that everyone knows how to do it, it's all up to them to decide which ones to play. I also play JM wagers as a season long wagering method, and I don't list those plays and records either, just for your information. I just collect the money... I keep three books going at all times and fade myself regulary on one of them with plays for the opposing teams' moneyline on a seperate book, homes. I never give away my vigorish without putting in play for myself. Word to the wise, mmike032, you aren't lising your record neither, just so you'll know. But Smaky's record doesn't include my Morison system wagers as well as the wagrs I made tailing people for the week in his listed total. It's WAY OFF when you include the Morrison wagers and the hockeytown11 tails that I have been doing for around three weeks now, but two bad Saturdays for the Secret Play brought down my personal record, but it's no sweat. Smacky is keeping an inaccurate tally, but who cares? It's his thread.

[cocknocker]

And Smacky, to show you taht I'm sympathetic to your problems, I will tail you the week after next. Next week is schaapattack's week and then it's on you. So get your plays in order now. Two can play this game.

[mmike032]

your correct, I dont list my record cause I dont tout myself and dont beg for attention.
in fact I'll be the first to say I am below average homes.
word to the wise...
never seen a sharp that played a chase system either

[cocknocker]

A very profitable chase system indeed. Once you try it there's no going back. Check out JohnMorr08's thread for confirmation of the record and then come back and tell me if i am losing any money, homes. ididn't beg for attention, i just get it. Despite my rough stretch, the cream will always rise to the top eventually.


Hey Smacky, wake up homes!

I took the Warriors-5 in the 2nd half

You're 0-2 since this experiment started...

Tomorrow i am taking the Celtics moneyline and the Bulls moneyline as well if they are an underdog, so now you don't have to worry about what I am playing, and can choose any other game freely so that you won't blame your losses on strange coincidences...

[Smacksmiter]

Duly noted Ck...thanks for the warningBye the way, you might want to start listing the JM system plays on your thread as well as the secret plays...as good as they are they would help on your quest for .500.

I can only report the weather, I can't make the weather...so I have to go by what plays you list on your thread bud. Its up to you.

[mmike032]

it doesnt matter one way or the other to me knocker. its up to you whether you keep a record or not.
I dont wish bad fortune on anyone.
GL with your future plays

[Chi_archie]

solid post, afterall someone that claims to be the best NBA capper should at least keep a record to back their claims
must be a coincedence that the secret plays are no longer being listed

really they aren't listed?

[shoebox]

Ive never been one to say whos cocks bigger than whos..but, with all the time be taken to put ck/s info up maybe you should take that time to cap your own games. I saw you got 2, maybe you should spend more time doing that. I dont always agree on cks picks and I just dont play em, I neither blame him either if they lose. No capper will hit 60% long term mark my words

[cocknocker]

I'm more popular than these guys shoebox, it comes with the territory. There were a ton of guys on my thread that have had bad streaks nd you don't see any threads being named after them. What's comical is that now that I'm not listing the Secret Plays everybody is getting their panties all in a bunch because of it, like as if they on't already know the criteria and can make a decision for themselves as to pay them or not to play them, Guys were playing Purdue as one and the game had a 1st half moneyline. I guess that i am taking the blame for that one too, lol!

[cocknocker]

Duly noted Ck...thanks for the warningBye the way, you might want to start listing the JM system plays on your thread as well as the secret plays...as good as they are they would help on your quest for .500.

I can only report the weather, I can't make the weather...so I have to go by what plays you list on your thread bud. Its up to you.

No way, those plays are my own private plays totally seperate from what I will post. My explanation for the reason why I won't post the Secret Plays and the JM plays is on the thread for tomorrow. I am not concerned with a record and here's why. Let's say that Smacky makes 4 wagers one night.

Bet A is for $300.00
Bet B is for $300.00
Bet C is for $300.00
Bet D is for $4500.00

And let's saythat you lose bets A, B and C, but win bet D. You may be subject to ridicule from others, but I am sure that you will have the last laugh is you're still up $3600.00 with a 1-3 record. So in my humble opinion, a record is not the measure of whether a guy is good or bad at wagering. It's not about the action..It's about building up your bankroll. Just imagine if you had the foresight and faded yourself on Bet A on another book and wagered $30.00 measely dollars hedging yourself on Bet A and hit a +4000 moneyline. I don't think yo would be too upset that guys are ripping you for a bad record when you are peeling all of that cash. But guess what? The little story that I just told you is what happens to me regularly. I make money even when i lose somtimes and that my friend is a fact. Keep no less than 3 books.

I am not concerened with listing my private plays to even up or show others my record. What I play in private is my for my own pleasure.

[Willie Bee]

I have edited the above weather report to show unit status... I will do my best to include the information regarding the occasional money line play in the future. Thanks for the tip Willie Bee and I apologize for the accidental omission.

Good deal, but still not complete. If you're going to report the weather for any day on the other side of the street, you will need to have some weather to report on your side of the street. So the way I see it, here is the weather report before Saturday's action:

Weather in CK Land 4-0, +4.00 units
Weather in Smacksville 0-1, -1.10 units

That should have been your Day 1 weather report.

[Smacksmiter]

So, to complete the report...Ck went 4-0 on posted plays and +4 units...2 of which he specified were his own selections and 2 others were him tailing other fine cappers.

Ck's cumulative posted plays record of the last 6 days now stands at 21-30-3 and -9 units plus juice.

Best wishes to him as he pushes for the magical .500 mark!

My posted plays record stands at 0-1. Play for today...The Washington Wizards at home +8 . 1 unit as usual. Good luck!

Willie Bee, I basically am doing what you are requesting just with some added words. I have Ck's daily and cumulative record and my daily/cumulative record is listed there as well. I am going to just say "plus juice" as that is common knowledge and makes it a bit easier.
The weather in both towns is being reported.

[Smacksmiter]

Good Morning SBR forum denizens! Its another beautiful day in the land of degenerate sports wagering...the hobby like no other...lets check the weather and see how things were in California yesterday!

Ahh...partly cloudy to mostly sunny with Ck posting a record of 3-2 and gaining 1 unit after his stellar 4-0 yesterday.

Ck's cumulative record over the last 7 days now stands at 25-33-3. Down 8 units plus juice.

As required by Willie Bee, my posted record now stands at 0-2 and down 2 units plus juice.

Aside from the weather, I would like to comment on some of Ck's ruminations on my thread. I will preface these comments by saying I have not read anything on Ck's thread today at the time I type this. As is well known, Ck has decided to stop posting his secret plays/JM plays. He states that "those plays are my own private plays totally seperate from what I will post" and again "I am not concerened with listing my private plays to even up or show others my record. What I play in private is my for my own pleasure."

At one time, both of these types of plays were listed in his thread as part of his daily selections. Obviously, something has changed. With the secret plays the "change" is very easy to see in that the record of those plays took a very sharp turn back toward .500 with the concomitant negative reaction from those following those plays.

With the JM system plays, it might be a little harder to see why he would not want to post those as one of his selections. However, I believe that it may be out of respect for the fact that it is not a system that he himself personally developed, unlike the "secret play" system which he did develop. Ck has written at length regarding the respect he has for the JM system stating that he actually bought the system so he could use it himself without any compunctions.

Both of these scenarios are strong possibilities for his actions. However, whatever the logic behind Ck's actions, the goal of the daily weather report is to give our gentle readers current and historical fact regarding his posted plays. It is my belief that the myriad of multiple postings Ck has made regarding multiple accounts, vigorish recovery wagers and the obvious omission of units wagered/dollars wagered are techniques he uses to make it harder to track him accurately. A smokescreen, if you will.

In his example here in this thread, however, when trying to explain how he seems to never have a losing day, he actually used this example to show how it works:

"Bet A is for $300.00
Bet B is for $300.00
Bet C is for $300.00
Bet D is for $4500.00"

So, he does know how to use units wagered/dollars wagered to show how he may go 1-3 for the night but he will not post them on his daily thread.........It is certainly his perogative to post how he wishes. We as readers must decide for ourselves the how and why. The daily weather report may not be perfect, but it can only report the weather as it occurs. If some of the silver lining is hid behind a cloud, it cant be seen by the weather man

My selection for today... Boston Celtics +2 ... 1 unit. Yep, I know Ck is on em, just can't pass up the Celtics as a dog here. Good luck!

Dr 6-4
Hn 3-5

[Dexter]

smacksmiter - get over it and go pay your bookie - you look like an idiot now.

no more "clap clap" chants?

heres smacky!

[Smacksmiter]

He He He.. that is actually kind of funny Dexter since I actually am 6'5" and 300 lbs ... except I work out regularly, unlike the poor slob in the picture...keep em coming bud, I like your style