[sharlataans]

Bilbao -135 vs. Caja Laboral

Bilbao needs this win to have a chance to advance to TOP 16.
Laboral is already in so no importance in this game. Both are spanish teams, that
know each other well, so I guess all is settled and Bilbao wins.

[boranoki23]

wat about maccabi tel aviv? vs belgacom..

[sharlataans]

wat about maccabi tel aviv? vs belgacom..

Hard to tell, this game makes no difference for either team. I am not playing this,
but I would go OVER 155 if I had to.

[protoss.2004]

Caja Laboral isn't 100% qualified yet , loosing tonight along with some other results in the rest games they might get out

[sharlataans]

Caja Laboral isn't 100% qualified yet , loosing tonight along with some other results in the rest games they might get out

Could you provide more details or a single example when they do not qualify???

If there is the tie between top 4 teams, they calculate best result of head to head results between tie teams. And Caja Laboral has best head to head record of all teams in the group.

[MartR]

correct me if I'm wrong, but I think winning the group gives a team better chances in the next stage. top 4 teams have 5 wins and 4 losses at the moment. If at least two of them win, then Caja moves back to third position.

[sharlataans]

correct me if I'm wrong, but I think winning the group gives a team better chances in the next stage. top 4 teams have 5 wins and 4 losses at the moment. If at least two of them win, then Caja moves back to third position.

The rules are here:
http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/64862/180

Anyone could tell if there are any advantages I don't see.

[protoss.2004]

I don't know the combinations of results that leave caja out of euroleague , but I know that they exist.
Check Euroleague.net website , in the standings tab , teams allready qualified are marked with a star (*) and Caja isn't !

[sharlataans]

I don't know the combinations of results that leave caja out of euroleague , but I know that they exist.
Check Euroleague.net website , in the standings tab , teams allready qualified are marked with a star (*) and Caja isn't !

Ok, I give you 100 points if there is such combination. If there is not, you give me 50 pts.

[MartR]

Caja is definitely going to qualify, because their basket dif. if +42. The thing is that they have a chance to qualify at the top of the group.
By winning the group, I think that they could face weaker teams in the next round. It's just an option and besides that Bizkaia have already won them once

[sharlataans]

There is Fenerbache vs. Cantu matchup today. One of them loses and both have worse head to head vs. Caja Laboral.
So Caja will be ahead of one of this team in any case.

[MartR]

Cantu has a good home record

[sharlataans]

Caja is definitely going to qualify, because their basket dif. if +42. The thing is that they have a chance to qualify at the top of the group.
By winning the group, I think that they could face weaker teams in the next round. It's just an option and besides that Bizkaia have already won them once

http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/64862/180

A random computer draw will determine the final position of the teams within their group.

The pairings calendar for the Top 16 will be drawn by allocating letters from a to d to the teams of each group. This will establish the match-ups for the entire Top 16.

It says the order is random

[MartR]

The true battle today is actually in group C. If Milano wins today, they are going to the next round.
Either one more Italian team should qualify besides Siena.. Cantu or Milano

[sharlataans]

I think Milano loses. They usually do under pressure, and they are playing in Belgrade.

[protoss.2004]

The scenario that leaves Caja out is

Olympiacos, Fenerbache and Biblao win
Then the standings are :

Olympiakos 6-4
Fenerbache 6-4

Cantu 5-5
Bilbao 5-5
Caja 5-5

In matches between the three of them , Cantu has 3 wins , Bilbao 2 wins , and Caja only 1 win so they get out

[sourdia]

Ok, I give you 100 points if there is such combination. If there is not, you give me 50 pts.

1st Combination: Bilbao wins,Nancy wins,Fener wins.
Final Standings:1-Fener 2-Bilbao 3-Olympiakos 4-Cantu

2nd Combination: Bilbao wins,Olympiakos wins,Fener wins
Final Standings:1-Fener 2-Olympiakos 3-Bilbao 4-Cantu

Only Olympiakos and Cantu have allready qualified fot the top16.

Waiting for my 200 points...lol

[sharlataans]

The scenario that leaves Caja out is

Olympiacos, Fenerbache and Biblao win
Then the standings are :

Olympiakos 6-4
Fenerbache 6-4

Cantu 5-5
Bilbao 5-5
Caja 5-5

In matches between the three of them , Cantu has 3 wins , Bilbao 2 wins , and Caja only 1 win so they get out

You are right. I misunderstood the head to head concept.

[protoss.2004]

Some bad languages say that the Spanish match will be somehow delayed a bit , to see the other results first. In case
Fener lose from Cantu and Olympiakos wins over Nancy, then both spanish teams qualify if Bilbao wins and Fener is out !