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    MICHIGAN (Firekeepers 400)

    Alright fellas we are headed to MICHIGAN International Speedway this weekend, and also have a weekend triple-header on tap..The truck series will be racing at Texas motor speedway on Friday night on FS1 at 9pm, the Xfinity series will be on Saturday at 1:30PM on FOX, and we will finish up with the CUP series race on Sunday on FOX at 2PM...Next weekend will be an Off weekend for the series for fathers day weekend...

    MICHIGAN is a 2 mile D-shaped asphalt oval...The banking in all the turns is 18 degrees, 12 degrees at the start/finish line section, and just 5 degrees of banking on the backstretch...This racetrack is very wide and can have many different grooves, but just like Pocono it can be single file racing but have a feeling PJ1 will be used this week...Tire wear is a HUGE factor at MIS and being 2 miler strategy and pit stops can and usually play a factor.


    Look for mostly the same cast of drivers we have seen all year be the sane favs this week so probably have to get creative to have more than 2 of them but with 2 races before cup we will have our chances...Kyle busch usually isnt been very good here historically though...


    GOODLUCK this week!!!




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    few early driver stats from my MIS notebook:

    Kyle Larson
    has WON 3 races in a row @ Michigan and is the for sure 2 mile king right now...3 wins total is tied with Kurt B. as the the only active drivers with 3 wins at MIS..


    Harvick in his last 10 Michigan races has 5 runner-up finishes and 7 of those 10 were top 5s, but he only has 1 Win at Michigan in his 34 starts


    Elliott has 3 top 5s here out of 4 career MIS races


    Truex Jr. has NEVER won a race at Michigan in 24 career starts

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    Kyle Busch last 10 MIS finishes:

    10th, 7th, 19th, 40th, 11th, 43rd, 39th, 41st, 31st, 4th

    as u can see not very good at all, but he does have 1 win here in his career back in 2011

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    the field for the XFINITY race is stacked this week:

    Kyle Busch, Menard, Harvick, A.Dillon and Bowman

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    Interesting stats.

    Larson/Elliot sound good. But is Chevy good enough to get either home just yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Interesting stats.

    Larson/Elliot sound good. But is Chevy good enough to get either home just yet?
    thats the problem not sure. Even though both have been better lately and the class of Chevys overall they still clearly are behind top 3 speed wise. But maybe being that 2 milers both Larson and Elliott's best track type by far may make the difference up? Just Not sure but this will be a good measuring stick

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    Logano also been real strong here too, 3 last 4 top 10s 2 of 4 top 5s, including a win (2 in 18 career starts) and actually Logano has lead the most laps in that last 4 races here span as well

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    odds will be interesting at the top

    will it be the standard harvick, kb, truex, larson order or will larson be at the top?

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    Wouldnt.be surprised to see Larson lower than busch maybe, but harvick will be the fav as usual. Hell maybe same 3 then larson way its going

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    Great number on Elliott +2250......

    may get better # later but i was expecting lower so I had to take it early

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    NASCAR Cup Series FireKeepers Casino 400

    Kevin Harvick +350
    Kyle Busch +500
    Martin Truex Jr +500
    Kyle Larson +650
    Ryan Blaney +1350
    Brad Keselowski +1350
    Joey Logano +1650
    Denny Hamlin +1750
    Erik Jones +2200
    Chase Elliott +2200
    Clint Bowyer +2750
    Kurt Busch +3250
    Aric Almirola +4200
    Jimmie Johnson +4200
    Daniel Suarez +6500
    Alex Bowman +8500
    Jamie McMurray +11500
    Austin Dillon +12000
    Paul Menard +15000
    Ricky Stenhouse Jr +15000
    Ryan Newman +15000
    William Byron +20000
    Matt Kenseth +35000
    Kasey Kahne +55000
    Darrell Wallace Jr +55000
    AJ Allmendinger +105000
    Chris Buescher +105000
    Ty Dillon +210000
    Michael McDowell +210000
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    bout to grab Larson too, cant help myself i dont think

    2 lower series races though so gonna gun for a couple parlays instead of taking much early but there a couple I like though

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    Man I hate not being on the same side as you Mike, but just can't see any Chevy being able to close it out on a power track like this.

    I'm thinking Jones' stats don't look bad again this week though. It's his best track where he has raced more than once in Cup. If you re-watch races maybe keep an eye on him for me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Man I hate not being on the same side as you Mike, but just can't see any Chevy being able to close it out on a power track like this.

    I'm thinking Jones' stats don't look bad again this week though. It's his best track where he has raced more than once in Cup. If you re-watch races maybe keep an eye on him for me?
    I think Optional has the right feeling on Jones. I was thinking same. However Mike is the guru.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Man I hate not being on the same side as you Mike, but just can't see any Chevy being able to close it out on a power track like this.

    I'm thinking Jones' stats don't look bad again this week though. It's his best track where he has raced more than once in Cup. If you re-watch races maybe keep an eye on him for me?
    This year My thing about Jones is he never brings it on raceday. Practices great looks good on thr sheets, but never that good the next day and always under shows.

    Watched both races already from.last year and he did look good in both (jones) Like u said he did well here last year. Doubtful either wins. LOL

    As far as Elliott just a longershot. In case something happens late i think he will be up there. Last time ill have him til august. Hes also.just really good here in his 4 starts
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    few early driver stats from my MIS notebook:

    Kyle Larson
    has WON 3 races in a row @ Michigan and is the for sure 2 mile king right now...3 wins total is tied with Kurt B. as the the only active drivers with 3 wins at MIS..


    Harvick in his last 10 Michigan races has 5 runner-up finishes and 7 of those 10 were top 5s, but he only has 1 Win at Michigan in his 34 starts


    Elliott has 3 top 5s here out of 4 career MIS races


    Truex Jr. has NEVER won a race at Michigan in 24 career starts
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    F1

    Hams +135

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    That’s what I love about Mike’s capping abilities he looks at every little thing he doesn’t get fooled by practice runs, he looks at every little thing past experiences present experience and how the cars are running, Pitt teams.
    Shoot he probably even knows which driver had sex last night that’s how good he is..
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    Xfinity:

    Harvick (+625)

    just thought this was a great price...sure ill parlay Kyle on raceday and probably take 1 more early single

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    tailed that one at +625. He's +400-450 elsewhere.

    I don't mind betting against Kyle in Xfin cars this year. JGR haven't been all that like previous years.


    Daytona Tyler Reddick Chevrolet
    Atlanta Kevin Harvick Ford
    Las Vegas Kyle Larson Chevrolet
    Phoenix Brad Keselowski Ford
    Fontana Joey Logano Ford
    Fort Worth Ryan Blaney Ford
    Bristol Ryan Preece Toyota
    Richmond Christopher Bell Toyota
    Talladega Spencer Gallagher Chevrolet
    Dover Justin Allgaier Chevrolet
    Charlotte Brad Keselowski Ford
    Pocono Kyle Busch Toyota

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    Also took harvick but feel like about 7 guys could win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    F1

    Hams +135
    I'm really keen on him to win in Montreal.

    He and the car is so good at the track my brain has been telling me to go big on him all week, but my gut has been telling me not to go overboard with Ferrari being better this year and Merc looking awful on the new Hypersoft tires last race. But a Ferrari has not won in Canada since Schumacher in 2004. It's just not a track that seems to lend itself to their style of car designs.

    I honestly don't think those tires will be as big an issue at this track, and whilst I think Ferrari could sneak pole, the Mercedes race pace has seen Hamilton cruise home with 30 seconds plus on the non-Mercs in his last 3 wins from pole.

    Anyway, kind of hoping Vettel gets pole so Hamilton odds improve and I have had a chance to see how they practice on the tires and what tire strategy might be.



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    Added Kimi Raikkonen +1200 for fastest lap.

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    Might have to have kimi FL as well if his odds are still there in morning

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    Xfinity:

    Harvick (+625)

    just thought this was a great price...sure ill parlay Kyle on raceday and probably take 1 more early single
    added:

    Menard (+825)


    Menard>A.Dillon(-135)
    B.Jones>Reddick(+105)
    open



    Menard>A.Dillon(-135)...2X mx



    That's it til I decide if i am parlaying Kyle B. or not on Saturday
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    weather looks very wet Saturday

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    weather looks very wet Saturday
    Of course. NASCAR race in the area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    Menard>A.Dillon(-135)...2X mx
    Do you like Menard or are you fading Dillon?

    Menard record very solid here in Xfin which he races every year, but Dillon has 2 poles from 3 races back in his Xfin days and a decent record in Cup at Michigan.

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    I parlayed Gragson +200 with Lewis +135 at Bovada (+605). Had to reload there after my Cavs let me down
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    If that d-bag Sauter wins again I am swearing off trucks

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    Opti any cause for concern with Merc not bringing the upgrade this weekend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unlearn View Post
    Opti any cause for concern with Merc not bringing the upgrade this weekend?
    Unexpected but if there are any doubts I think they might still swap on Friday night.

    Seems to be lots of "stories" about engines and penalties going around this weekend. Red Bull playing media games with Ricciardo status as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Added Kimi Raikkonen +1200 for fastest lap.
    how about +900?

    Quote Originally Posted by unlearn View Post
    If that d-bag Sauter wins again I am swearing off trucks
    that's who i'm going with if odds get bet-able

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    Quote Originally Posted by reigle9 View Post
    how about +900?
    That's the minimum he would be any value at. I probably would not bet it yet personally. I only jumped for the +1200

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