1. 06-10-13 04:15 PM #1
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    MICHIGAN--5mike5

    Alright guys, were are off to MICHIGAN this weekend after another successful race last Sunday....And again, winning at Michigan is way more about having the best winning strategy, than it is being the best and fastest car on any given raceday...just have to find the right combination of the 2....and alot of bettors will be suckered into several drivers that will be WAY overvalued this weekend because of past results here, but are in no shape to win races unless like previously stated, they luck into a strategy call...so at least think about you picks very hard from more than just that this weekend

    The nationwide series will also be running from Michigan on Saturday afternoon, with Cup on the regular time on Sunday afternoon

    MICHIGAN is a 2-mile D-shaped Oval and has 18 degrees of banking in all 4 turns that are identical, the start/finish line has 12 degrees and the backstretch has just 5 degrees of banking..track is mostly known for its wide racing grooves and very high speed banking

    GOODLUCK to everybody this weekend and hope we can all cash in big again...not going to be an easy race to predict let me warn u in advance, but I did have my biggest profit winning race (up to that point anyways) last season with JR, so i do love this place

    LETS GO GET'EM!!!!

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  2. 06-10-13 04:17 PM #2
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    Since renewals close theres a 100. A small thank you for all the work you put in each week
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  3. 06-10-13 04:19 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Since renewals close theres a 100. A small thank you for all the work you put in each week
    oh wow, thanks buddy!

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  4. 06-10-13 04:21 PM #4
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    No much thanks to you. Very much appreciated
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    that's all I have right now just a small thanks from me
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  6. 06-10-13 04:24 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunovery View Post
    that's all I have right now just a small thanks from me
    hey buddy I appreciate it
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    gonna need some decectives to find out if anything is said about Toyota engines this week...i wish i knew already to be honest but if it was a 4-race plan be suprised to see them change it...guess we will see how much clout the drivers have with coach

    U guys see Hamlins Quote after pocono???

    "I WOULD RATHER BLOW-UP LEADING"

    something tells me they will do everything to get those horses back, but just not sure its their call...actually i know its not...but again michigan not a place u want to be lacking
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  8. 06-10-13 04:31 PM #8
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    Toyota in a box here. THey reduce engines here in trouble. They go back and could blow
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  9. 06-10-13 04:35 PM #9
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    yeah i understand especially why denny is so damn pissed off.....2nd-43rd means nothing to that team...its win or go home next 12 weeks

    after i saw his quote i thought " u better ask ur teammate how leading the race and blowing up few weeks ago feels he may disagree"
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  10. 06-10-13 04:38 PM #10
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    He does need top 10's too. As they need in top 20. Best thing for him is top 10 guys winning and not those looking at a wild card spot like Stewart
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  11. 06-10-13 04:43 PM #11
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    Well yeah but if he he gets wins he will be top 20. But he can't finish last and blow up either. Tough spot to be in. Think once he Gets at least 1 win he will agree top 10s are the priority. Won't make chase without both
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  12. 06-10-13 04:47 PM #12
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    Think during race they showed he heeds to avg a 13th place finish. Also think he needs 2 wins
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  13. 06-10-13 06:34 PM #13
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    Just don't think Hamlin is running well enough to contend for wins yet. Still a long way to go for him and some better tracks. However I am not backing him until I see a more complete race from that #11 team.
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    Anyone have any opinions on the US Open this weekend? I would like to put a few dollars out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDT View Post
    Anyone have any opinions on the US Open this weekend? I would like to put a few dollars out there.
    Wonder why there is no golf forum here. Always fun to take a few shots at some big prices.
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  16. 06-10-13 07:32 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slimpickens View Post
    Wonder why there is no golf forum here. Always fun to take a few shots at some big prices.
    i know nothing about golf, but i play majors and pick a few usually 2-3 times a year

    hit bubba W. at 54-1 in '11 and won with ernie els last year 65-1

    was luck but paid huge
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayHorne3 View Post
    Just don't think Hamlin is running well enough to contend for wins yet. Still a long way to go for him and some better tracks. However I am not backing him until I see a more complete race from that #11 team.
    i disagree, hes ran top 5 just about every single race since return....if he had horsepower last week i think he would have been there too contending...if u run up front he can win imo but he is being over valued the reason i never hit last week....and especially without horses non of them can win without strategy calls which is always possible at MIS
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    i know nothing about golf, but i play majors and pick a few usually 2-3 times a year

    hit bubba W. at 54-1 in '11 and won with ernie els last year 65-1

    was luck but paid huge
    Nice I remember betting Bubba in 2011 as well. Wasnt pre tourney I think the last day at around 8-1 or so. Id love to hear any opinions from you as well as anyone on this weeks tourney. I know very little about golf as well. I see odds are up with Tiger as the 5-1 chalk, then 22-1 on up.
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    Who do you think opens as favorite at Michigan? Johnson just because or someone else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    i disagree, hes ran top 5 just about every single race since return....if he had horsepower last week i think he would have been there too contending...if u run up front he can win imo but he is being over valued the reason i never hit last week....and especially without horses non of them can win without strategy calls which is always possible at MIS

    Agree he has Ben there the wins are gonna come. Just gonba be hard at mis will be like granny on freeway beep beep
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  21. 06-10-13 07:48 PM #21
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    Odds from LVH

    JIMMIE JOHNSON 5
    CARL EDWARDS 8
    KYLE BUSCH 7
    MATT KENSETH 7
    JEFF GORDON 12
    TONY STEWART 8
    KEVIN HARVICK 15
    KASEY KAHNE 12
    DENNY HAMLIN 8
    GREG BIFFLE 8
    BRAD KESELOWSKI 15
    DALE EARNHARDT JR 12
    CLINT BOWYER 40
    RYAN NEWMAN 40
    AJ ALLMENDINGER 60
    MARTIN TRUEX JR 30
    MARK MARTIN 30
    JEFF BURTON 100
    JOEY LOGANO 50
    JUAN MONTOYA 100
    JAMIE McMURRAY 100
    KURT BUSCH 100
    PAUL MENARD 100
    MARCOS AMBROSE 100
    TREVOR BAYNE 200
    ARIC ALMIROLA 300
    REGAN SMITH 500
    BOBBY LABONTE 1000
    DAVID RAGAN 1000
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  22. 06-10-13 08:05 PM #22
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    Those odds look comparable to what a restrictor plate race would be. To many cars under 10-1 though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDT View Post
    Anyone have any opinions on the US Open this weekend? I would like to put a few dollars out there.
    I hit Snedeker +3000 and D. Johnson +4500. Both guys are very capable so I will roll the dice.
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  24. 06-10-13 08:28 PM #24
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    Anyone else like Charl Schwartzel? He is currently +3500
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    according to this, http://www.jayski.com/cupnews.htm#20130608c toyota is dialing back for 2 races, pocono and michigan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GP View Post
    according to this, http://www.jayski.com/cupnews.htm#20130608c toyota is dialing back for 2 races, pocono and michigan.

    Then go back to old ways and blow the Fukk up at indy
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  27. 06-10-13 11:04 PM #27
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    jimmie a 5-1 favorite at vegas @ a track hes NEVER even won a race on...



    #clueless
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  28. 06-10-13 11:06 PM #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    jimmie a 5-1 favorite at vegas @ a track hes NEVER even won a race on



    #clueless
    agree but bet online he opens as fave too
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    of course he will, but he wont open at 5-1

    books are so clueless about nascar

    any driver thats a favorite at a track they have never won a race on is just stupid...especially when they have had 20 or so cracks at it...i mean come on....i say this every year about him here, cause hes always the favorite no matter what
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  30. 06-10-13 11:10 PM #30
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    No arguments from me. But hadn't planned betting 48 so works good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    No arguments from me. But hadn't planned betting 48 so works good
    yeah i know u werent, just baffles me....of course im sure public that just bets on nascar as a hobby take him weekly so in their best interests

    he opened +750 last year as fav @ dimes for Spring race, but with toyotas being down this year he probably open lower than that
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    like pocono, Michigan was just repaved in few yrs ago too keep in mind
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    im actually gonna get to sleep for a few hours on a monday night for the first time in months...no way odds will be out anytime soon...
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    Get some rest probably needed after your trip
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDT View Post
    Anyone else like Charl Schwartzel? He is currently +3500
    Like him along with g mcdowell, matt kuchar, bill haas and a long long shot boo weekly
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