1. 03-20-12 09:56 PM #1
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    101 Jimmie Johnson +700
    102 Kyle Busch +800
    103 Carl Edwards +800
    104 Tony Stewart +800
    105 Jeff Gordon +900
    106 Matt Kenseth +900
    107 Kevin Harvick +1000
    108 Greg Biffle +1200
    109 Brad Keselowski +1200
    110 Kasey Kahne +1500
    111 Denny Hamlin +1500
    112 Dale Earnhardt Jr +2000
    113 Clint Bowyer +3000
    114 Mark Martin +3000
    115 Martin Truex Jr +3000
    116 Ryan Newman +3500
    117 AJ Allmendinger +3500
    118 Jeff Burton +4000
    119 Joey Logano +4000
    120 Jamie McMurray +5000
    121 Juan Montoya +5000
    122 Field +2000


    Wanted to bet Harvick early but not sure it's worth it with that many near the favorite line.
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    I like your thinking on the 29! He will get his first win this Sunday.
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    Yeah agree. Feel his time is near and at home might be right time to hit him.

    Kyle has had mental driver ratings the last few races here too. Will take him early also when 5D gets their market up.
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  4. 03-21-12 11:05 AM #4
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    I took Harvick +1000 and Bowyer +3000

    In case anyone is interested in the F1 this weekend, I've taken Kimi Raikonen +2800 to win, +2000 for pole and +1200 for fastest lap. Not certain he will do it but those odds are way too high imho. Renault-Lotus showed they have the speed and aero package to compete for pole last week in Melbourne and the Sepang track should suit the car much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I took Harvick +1000 and Bowyer +3000


    In case anyone is interested in the F1 this weekend, I've taken Kimi Raikonen +2800 to win, +2000 for pole and +1200 for fastest lap. Not certain he will do it but those odds are way too high imho. Renault-Lotus showed they have the speed and aero package to compete for pole last week in Melbourne and the Sepang track should suit the car much better.

    Opti for f1 this weekend

    After last weeks race mclaren are in a class of there own cant see past Lewis and jenson it was a toss up last weekend whoever got to the first corner won ( I backed the wrong one) Even after the safety car came out jenson pulled away again
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    Yeah agree McLaren are deserving favorites, and my pole bet is probably a bit optimistic, but they weren't clearly ahead on race pace and i wouldn't be surprised if this track, which does not favor outright top speed as much as Melbourne, brings them back to the field a little.
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    What's up with the red bulls and Ferrari they don't seem upto the pace I know it's early but signs are not good
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    Ferarri have definitely got an issue. Just cocked up the design I think. And they say they won't have the major update they need until Barcelona. They are bringing a new chassis for Massa this week. But I suspected they had him in some sort of test setup chassis last week the car looked so different to Alonso, so this could just be a new test piece.

    Red Bull are plenty fast I think. Don't believe the hype. They have always been down on top speed, but were down about 8kph in Melbourne and I bet they will address that somewhat before this race. Vettel didn't have a perfect quali lap and Webber didn't have KERS working for it, so the large gap in quali is deceptive too.

    All that said, McLaren should win everything really. As none of them can do much between Melbourne and here and they clearly have the best sorted cart so far.
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    No more F1 talk!
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  10. 03-21-12 06:03 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Ferarri have definitely got an issue. Just cocked up the design I think. And they say they won't have the major update they need until Barcelona. They are bringing a new chassis for Massa this week. But I suspected they had him in some sort of test setup chassis last week the car looked so different to Alonso, so this could just be a new test piece.

    Red Bull are plenty fast I think. Don't believe the hype. They have always been down on top speed, but were down about 8kph in Melbourne and I bet they will address that somewhat before this race. Vettel didn't have a perfect quali lap and Webber didn't have KERS working for it, so the large gap in quali is deceptive too.

    All that said, McLaren should win everything really. As none of them can do much between Melbourne and here and they clearly have the best sorted cart so far.
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    sorry ddt nascar it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I took Harvick +1000 and Bowyer +3000
    Nice move. Nice price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDT View Post
    No more F1 talk!
    Indy car ok
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    I think I would rather talk F1 than Indy, and I know NOTHING about F1
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    Ok fair enough
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    Maybe the weather could factor in this week (I hope not)
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunovery View Post
    Maybe the weather could factor in this week (I hope not)

    Very possible 40% chance of rain Sunday
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  18. 03-22-12 03:52 AM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by dew22 View Post

    Nice move. Nice price.
    They were both better at 5Dimes actually. But took them at Bookmaker as I have rollover and want to turn over the cash there.

    Who do you like early Dew?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post

    Indy car ok
    I took Will Power, for nationalistic reasons


    5D has Nationwide odds up. I took .5u on Kyle +650
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    They were both better at 5Dimes actually. But took them at Bookmaker as I have rollover and want to turn over the cash there.

    Who do you like early Dew?
    No surprises really. Like you said earlier, Kyle was crazy fast last year and he's my fave going in. Followed by JJ, Smoke, Bowyer, and Harvick. If playing futures, jumping on Clint has lots of value. I'd hold off on the others. I had Kyle at +1100 last year after he qualified 8th and practiced well on Saturday.

    Btw, really impressed how Bowyer is hanging around late in races; always been MWR's weak spot. Have to think he will win one this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dew22 View Post
    No surprises really. Like you said earlier, Kyle was crazy fast last year and he's my fave going in. Followed by JJ, Smoke, Bowyer, and Harvick. If playing futures, jumping on Clint has lots of value. I'd hold off on the others. I had Kyle at +1100 last year after he qualified 8th and practiced well on Saturday.

    Btw, really impressed how Bowyer is hanging around late in races; always been MWR's weak spot. Have to think he will win one this year.
    Oh...and Kenseth too. LOL.

    Anybody left outside of the start-n-parks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dew22 View Post

    No surprises really. Like you said earlier, Kyle was crazy fast last year and he's my fave going in. Followed by JJ, Smoke, Bowyer, and Harvick. If playing futures, jumping on Clint has lots of value. I'd hold off on the others. I had Kyle at +1100 last year after he qualified 8th and practiced well on Saturday.

    Btw, really impressed how Bowyer is hanging around late in races; always been MWR's weak spot. Have to think he will win one this year.
    Glad to hear you like Bowyer as a chance, and agree on Kyle. Think you are a good judge early.
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    Bowyer has been impressive, I like the pick this week
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I took Will Power, for nationalistic reasons


    5D has Nationwide odds up. I took .5u on Kyle +650
    On Briscoe @ +800
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    ^^^ I did too much trying to be nationalistic but taking the more juicy odds on Briscoe too many times last year
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    Don't like the times Kyle and Harvick posted off the truck. Or Hendrick cars. Bowyer and MWR cars looking speedy though.
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    jimmy and harvick looked same way last year off truck ....just doesnt mean much

    harvick was 28th and jimmy 20th off truck last years 1st practice and won the race and runner up finishes

    glad to have bowyer @ +3300 though
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    I hate it when that first run out gives a shitty time. And even more when the whole team unloads that way.

    Not a huge bearing, but another little thing I like to watch for.
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    You know Bowyer and Martin and about 3/10ths ahead of 3rd place BK. Then there are a dozen cars within 3/10ths of BK.

    That seems a big gap to me.
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    yeah i dont like it either, but actually may help prices come our way...besides that no big deal...

    ive actually been shocked how little practice and lap avgs has meant this year so far when it comes to winning??...have u noticed that?

    i still pay attention to happy hour more than any, just becuase evry1 is on same agenda, these 1st practice is just pure qualifying...

    glad i replaced kyle with bowyer just becuase +3300 is just too good, but ill rebet kyle at better price probably
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    Yeah I have been tricked by Friday times a couple of times :\

    You did well with your early bets for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Yeah I have been tricked by Friday times a couple of times :\

    You did well with your early bets for sure
    actually if it wasnt 4 u i wouldnt have picked Bowyer early bud...i owe u 4 that 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    In case anyone is interested in the F1 this weekend, I've taken Kimi Raikonen +2800 to win, +2000 for pole and +1200 for fastest lap. Not certain he will do it but those odds are way too high imho. Renault-Lotus showed they have the speed and aero package to compete for pole last week in Melbourne and the Sepang track should suit the car much better.
    Raikkonen is changing a gearbox and will take a 5 place grid penalty after qualifying. Hope no one tailed that +2800 win bet too heavy :\

    On the bright side, going for pole will be even more important now, and he is looking great for the fast lap based on race simulation laps in P2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    actually if it wasnt 4 u i wouldnt have picked Bowyer early bud...i owe u 4 that 1
    if he wins ill send ya a fed ex package full of beer...LOL
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    Sounds good!

    Dos Equis lager please?
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