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    NASCAR Punters Club 2012

    Welcome to Punters Club 2012

    We will use the same format as last year with a minor change to the amount we stake each week.

    7 members was a good number last year. And I think any more than 9 would be too many. (giving us an average of 8 turns each as a punter). Members from last year have first option to join, any remaining spots are first in best dressed.

    I will buy us $280 worth of 5 Dimes sportsbook cash, place the club bets each week and post screenshots.

    The member list will be randomly sorted into 2 lists to start the season.

    ie:

    Mem1 Mem7
    Mem6 Mem4
    Mem3 Mem5
    Mem7 Mem2
    Mem2 Mem1
    Mem5 Mem6
    Mem4 Mem3

    The 2 names at the top of the lists are that week's punters. If the punter makes more than double his stake in profit, he stays at the top of the list to punt again next week. If not he moves to the bottom of that list. Should a punter end up at the top of both lists, the next person down will jump ahead of him on one list.

    For race one (which will be Phoenix, as we are doing something different for Daytona this year) the punters will split 15% of the bankroll as their stake. Which would be $21 each from our starting amount of $280.

    Should we have a winning week, the percentage will move up to 16% for the following race, a losing week then we go down to 14%, and so on. I hope this will help us cope with any losing streaks better than last year.

    Entry fees:

    6 players = 630 points each
    7 players = 540
    8 players = 472
    9 players = 420

    As for payouts, with the new rules since last year, only option will be for me to cash out after Homestead and buy betpoints for distribution back to everyone. Not as exciting as the prospect of direct cash like last year, but it is what it is, and hopefully we can produce a handful of $50 gift cards each for Xmas at least.

    Please don't transfer any points as yet, until we see how many players we have. But do post if you definitely want in ASAP.


    Daytona 500

    Last year no one wanted to be punter for this race (or any plate race) so this year we will start the season differently.

    Each member will pick 1 race winner and 1 Head 2 Head matchup winner.

    I will split our 15% stake ($42) on them this way, assuming we have 7 members;

    $3 each on each winner pick
    56 x 50cent parlays with each Head2Head pick boxed in all possible 3 and 4 way combos.

    If the majority of members like this idea we can do it for each plate race.
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    I"m in!! 500 plan works for me

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    I'm in as well

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    Of course.

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    In it this time 2 win it.

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    Only 5 starters for this this year? It will be 756 each if there is only 5 people... More potential for profit though I guess

    U guys still want to play at that amount?

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    No one else wants to play??

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    I'll send out a PM to everyone who played any of the games last year once 5D gives me our Head 2 Head matchups. Maybe some people haven't noticed.

    Thought our biggest problem would be too many this year!

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    I"d still be in with just 5, or we could skip the 500 altogether and see if more want to join before buying in for pheonix?

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    I'm going to use my own funds to cover the 500 anyway, so there isn't a real rush to get it locked down.

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    I can do it with u guys

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    Cool. That makes six.

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    Would be happy to join..any point amount is fine with me

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    Nice, that makes a great group of 7.


    I will give it until 9.00am et Sunday morning for any last stragglers to join.

    Rickie
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    Can each member please post their Race Winner pick and best Head2Head matchup bet before 11.00am Sunday morning.

    I'll place and post our bets sometime before Noon.

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    Actually, just to give us some extra options, can everyone please post 2 picks for the win.. a main pick and an alternate. (as well as a head2head)


    *edit: Don't worry about picking differently to anyone else btw. Just choose your best pick.
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    Main Pick: Harvick
    Alternate: Brad K

    Head to Head: Jamie McMurray #1 v Denny Hamlin #11

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    I'm in. Just joined a different book so I can become pro. I can wait to play till I get pro if you guys want

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    I cAn join if you have any room

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    Tony Stewart-#1
    Carl Edwards-#2

    My favorite prop is Tony Stewart under 12.5 -130
    is that ok or it has to be driver vs driver?

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    As long as Hawk 5 or Soxwin don't decide they want their spots by 9.00am, consider yourself in Shaun.

    Well that's 9 for sure, so everyone is welcome to send their 420 whenever you are ready.

    And don't forget to post a Race winner pick, an alternate, and the best head2head bet you can see.

    If you don't like any of the head to heads, just choose another prop you like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Tony Stewart-#1
    Carl Edwards-#2

    My favorite prop is Tony Stewart under 12.5 -130
    is that ok or it has to be driver vs driver?
    No that's good KC. You posted whilst I was typing about choosing another prop if you like. I hate the head 2 heads myself.

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    Winner: Matt Kenseth +2000
    Alternate: Marcos Ambrose +4500
    Prop: Ford to win +385

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    Winner: Harvick
    Alternate: Kasey K.

    Prop: I like that Stewart Under 12.5

    Opti i sent my 420 points in 1st post above

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    I like

    Stewart to bt Johnson

    Race winner stewart
    Alt. Jeff gordon

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    opti - you good covering my 420 out of the 500 you owe me? or do you need me to pony up a few more for the short term??

    winner 1 - dale Jr +1000 (I can't believe I'm actually pickin' him especially at these odds but he seems comfortable)
    2nd choice -- kurt busch +2200

    other prop - best in group F -- GILLILAND +350

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    Winner: Matt K
    Alt: Smoke
    Match-up: Edwards over Kahne (-120)

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    Winner: #1 Biffle
    Winner:#2 Gordon

    H2H TrieuxJr. +105 Ov M Martin



    GL 2DAY GUYS!!!!
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    Just Avssackic left to post his picks before the 11.00am deadline.

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    Here's a run down of our group picks

    Our Winners - I've Spread 20 of our $41 stake on them

    Sprint Cup Motor Racing Daytona 500 : Tony Stewart +850 2 picks
    Sprint Cup Motor Racing Daytona 500 : Kevin Harvick +1250 2 picks
    Sprint Cup Motor Racing Daytona 500 : Matt Kenseth +2300 2 picks
    Sprint Cup Motor Racing Daytona 500 : Dale Earnhardt Jr +950 1 pick
    Sprint Cup Motor Racing Daytona 500 : Greg Biffle +1300 1 pick

    Attachment 38447


    Our Matchups - 11 possible combinations of 4, 3 and 2 teamers. (pays $50 on $1 unit stake if all 4 are correct)

    7505 Tony Stewart #14* -140 vs Jimmie Johnson #48
    7512 Carl Edwards #99* -115 vs Kasey Kahne #5
    7544 Martin Truex Jr #56* +105 vs Mark Martin #55
    8709 Jamie McMurray #1* -120 vs Denny Hamlin #11

    Attachment 38449




    Which leaves us 10 bucks left for wagering on this lot.. Up for ideas any members want to toss in.


    Our Alts - maybe to take as Top10s, in H2Hs or Under finishing position line, or parlayed with matchups?

    Carl Edwards +1200
    Jeff Gordon +1400
    Kasey Kahne +1850
    Kurt Busch +2200
    Brad Keselowski +2400
    Marcos Ambrose +4500


    Our Props

    7304 T.Stewart fin.position under 12½* -145 vs T.Stewart fin.position over 12½

    7053 A Ford wins Daytona 500* +365 vs Field wins Daytona 500

    Sprint Cup Motor Racing Daytona 500 - Best Finish of Group F : David Gilliland +350
    Gilliland, B.Labonte, Mears, Patrick, Stremme


    Note: The first two props are parlayable, but the group bet is not.

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    How about t stewart under 12.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunovery View Post
    How about t stewart under 12.5
    I love that prop also but at -145 and we only got $10 left to wager its not much value, it would need to be parlayed or either we take a chance on one of those other drivers. Im good with whatever you decide Opti GL.

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    Like Kenseth over B Keslowki -130 seems fair if you want to throw it in a parlay

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunovery View Post
    How about t stewart under 12.5
    Definitely. Picked twice as well as Tony for the win picked twice.

    What to take it with though?

    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Like Kenseth over B Keslowki -130 seems fair if you want to throw it in a parlay
    Ok cool...

    Smoke Under 12.5 -140
    Kenseth over BradK -130



    How about those 2 into 7 x 3 leg parlays, with each of our Alts for a top 10 or Under, and with the Ford prop? (hopefully that makes sense)


    *Edit: Actually Kenseth over BradK is a new one... won't use that mate. Need something the group already likes.

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    Ok made executive decision.

    I took each of our alt picks and the Smoke U12.5 prop and took them in all possible combinations of 3 legs. (20 x .50)

    Total potential is about $130 if all 6 selections win.

    Attachment 38451
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    Attachment 38455

    Was not allowed to include the Ford Prop or Gilliland to win Group F bets. (what's the odds payout would be better if we had simply split the $42 on those two!? lol)

    Ambrose wasn't available for top 10 or Over/Under, so left him out too.

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    For newcomers... we don't normally bet all scattergun like this. It's just to combine all the group picks this week.

    Next week, whoever is up first should make 'sharp' bets.

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