[Optional]

I genuinely don't know how he will perform on this new track, but think Ambrose is on a strong roll and want to risk some points on him this week.

Can afford to risk up to 500 points. No more than 250 risk on my side for any one prop.

Prices are valid until the start of practice at 1.30pm ET Friday. (will update prices and open again after Saturday qualifying)

Ambrose Under 5.5 +1100

Ambrose Under 10.5 +400

Ambrose Under 15.5 +100

Ambrose Under 20.5 -200

Ambrose to beat Allmendinger +100


I am taking the under at listed prices. So if you want to bet against me that Ambrose will finish outside the top 10, you would need to put up 40 points against every 10 of mine. If you want to bet he won't finish in the top 20, you would need to put up 5 points against every 10 of mine.

I think I've priced these in favor of the over, but feel free to make an offer for an alt line if you don't agree.

[Optional]

I'd kinda like 100 on each if anyone is feeling inclined to risk 1750 against my 500. Will give you a 10% discount if 1 person does that. (so 1575 against my 500 overall)

And effectively 475 against my 500 if you believe he is no chance of a top 5.

[hawk 5]

He has no chance for top 5. I'll do that top 5. My 475 against your 500? Deal. You get 1-5. I get 6th on back.

[hawk 5]

[Optional]

It's only effectively 475 against 500 if we go 100 on each of the 5 props.

You need to give me +1100, or make an offer, if you want to only back over 5.5.

[Optional]

If you take on the full 500, at 100 risk my side per prop, the possible results are.

Ambrose finishes top5 and beats Dinger = I win 1575 or 1395 if Dinger finishes higher.

Ambrose Top 10 = I win 505 if he beats Dinger or 305 if not.

Top 15 = You win 50 if Dinger beats him and I win win 50 if other way

Outside Top 15 you win 250, 300, 450 or 500.

[Optional]

Actually those payout figures aren't 100% correct. I was adding and subtracting 10%s in my head and messed it up a few places. Payouts are close though.

[hawk 5]

Too much going on for me. Good luck with that.

[Optional]

That's ok. It's understandable that you might Fear the might of Marcos!!!!

[ThaddeusB]

OK, I will take your "100 on each" request with the 10% discount. I asusme that emans you are getting:

Ambrose Under 5.5 - 100 to win 990
Ambrose Under 10.5 - 100 to win 360
Ambrose Under 15.5 - 100 to win 90
Ambrose Under 20.5 - 100 to win 45
Ambrose to beat Allmendinger - 100 to win 90

Please confirm that is what you intended,
Thaddeus

[Optional]

OK, I will take your "100 on each" request with the 10% discount. I asusme that emans you are getting:

Ambrose Under 5.5 - 100 to win 990
Ambrose Under 10.5 - 100 to win 360
Ambrose Under 15.5 - 100 to win 90
Ambrose Under 20.5 - 100 to win 45
Ambrose to beat Allmendinger - 100 to win 90

Please confirm that is what you intended,
Thaddeus

That's correct.

Thanks a lot Thad.

Are you happy to settle up either way after the race? (or whenever you do you next run of book payouts would be fine too)

[hawk 5]

That's ok. It's understandable that you might Fear the might of Marcos!!!!

Go Marcos go!

[Optional]

Glad to have you on my side now

[yisman]

Oh well, I would've done it too. Got here just now.

[Optional]

Let me see how my Hockey/Tennis bets go between now and Sunday and I might double up and take you on too if you still feel like it then Yis.

[ThaddeusB]

That's correct.

Thanks a lot Thad.

Are you happy to settle up either way after the race? (or whenever you do you next run of book payouts would be fine too)

After the event is fine for settling up. Of course if it end up you owe me points, they can be deducted from your pointsbook balance if you like.

Good luck,
Thaddeus

[Optional]

That's ok. I'll pay you the lot in this thread if the unimaginable happens and Marcos lets me down*.


*for the 110th time on an oval

[hawk 5]

That's ok. I'll pay you the lot in this thread if the unimaginable happens and Marcos lets me down*.


*for the 110th time on an oval

Head up opti, there's a nice dogleg down the frontstretch that needs to be roadraced. You have them right where you want them.

[Vegas39]

Head up opti, there's a nice dogleg down the frontstretch that needs to be roadraced. You have them right where you want them.

[Optional]

haha. Keep laughing boys!

[Vegas39]

That was damn funny

[Vegas39]

If it's a consolation I think he wins on an oval before Montoya

[Optional]

Agree re Montoya. And up until about 1/3 way through this season I thought it looked the other way.

Will he get that oval win before Dinger is the important comparison for him now though.

[Vegas39]

To that I would say no think dinger wins Homestead

[Optional]

Should be an RPM weekend then. Because I think it's #9s best chance of the year too. If I win my bet this week, will go all in with the 2000 points on him again next week if I can find takers. Maybe half on each of them even.

[hawk 5]

haha. Keep laughing boys!

Just messing a bit. Have a lot of respect for the 9 car. mean it.

[hawk 5]

Qualified 3rd. Glad i didn't take u up.

[Optional]

Now that's what I'm talkin about!

And Dinger in 2nd for the matchup. RPM for a one-two.

Go you good things!

Could not catch quali. Anything esle important happen I missed?

[KC]

I played him over Dinger last week of course he lost by one position..his car looks good again this week.

[Optional]

Yeah.. the bugger let me down on same bet too KC. I'm going to chase on him this week and next though.


I won enough to risk 400 more on Ambrose if anyone else is interested. Will think up some head to head lines for him against a bunch of others. Let me know if you have someone in particular you'd like to take against him and I'll come up with a handicap so we can do it at even money.

[Optional]

Ok here are some more Ambrose props if anyone else wants to take on the Tazzie Devil and me.

Same as above, quoted prices are the bets I am taking. So if you want back Tony Stewart to beat him head to head, straight up, you would need to put up 20 points against every 10 of mine. Or 10 points against 10 points if you prefer to give Ambrose 7.5 positions start.

Also same as above I would most prefer to risk 100 on Ambrose to beat each group. So if one person wants to take me up on that bet, you can have a 10% discount on the quoted odds.

And once again I genuinely believe I have priced all of these in your favor, but if you don't agree let me know.


Ambrose v Group 1

Tony Stewart
Carl Edwards
Jimmie Johnson
Matt Kenseth

Beat Group: +675
Individual H2H: +200 (for any single driver in group head to head against Ambrose)
H2H Handicap: +7.5 (if you want to take 1 of these against Ambrose at +100)

Ambrose v Group 2

Jeff Gordon
Kevin Harvick
Kasey Kahne

Beat Group: +350
Individual H2H: +150 (for any single driver in group head to head against Ambrose)
H2H Handicap: +5.5 (if you want to take 1 of these against Ambrose at +100)

Ambrose v Group 3

Kyle Busch
Denny Hamlin
Brad Keselowski

Beat Group: +300
Individual H2H: +100 (for any single driver in group head to head against Ambrose)


Ambrose v Group 4

Greg Biffle
Kurt Busch
Mark Martin
Jeff Burton

Beat Group: +300
Individual H2H: +100 (for any single driver in group head to head against Ambrose)




I will also bet on Ambrose + Allmendinger to beat any 2 drivers from the same team you wish to nominate head to head. (ties push) LMK who and we can negotiate the odds.

[Optional]

Oh yeah. Up to 400 points risk on my side and prefer no more than 100 risk per individual prop.

[Optional]

And "for any single driver in group head to head against Ambrose" should read "for Ambrose against any single driver in group head to head"

Just in case that line confuses anyone

[yisman]

I'm going to be taking several drivers head to head vs. Ambrose.

[Optional]

Thanks Yis.

Better do it before someone grabs my 10% off offer though.