[5mike5]

alright gentlemen off to the next to last race at phoenix this week!!!

might as well be going to a brand new track after the re-pave and configuration that took place since the last event here in the spring....

basically its going to be hard as hell to handicap in my opinion...probably the sessions will be more important than any other race of the entire year...not even sure what to do with my old phoenix notebook ive compiled over the last decade...lol

as always everybodys opinion and comments are always welcome on my thread..

sadly on 2 races left in the chase, so hope we hit it big the last 2 chances we got this year!!!

nationwide race: saturday at 3:30 est on espn2

sprint cup race: sunday at 3pm est on espn

GOODLUCK this week

[5mike5]

also wont be making any knee-jerk dercisions on early wagers this week...going to take a day or 2 to think about how i want to approach my early picks, if i make any at all...probably should pull back on the wagers this week, but no way in hell weith only 2 races left...im laying as much lumber as i always do, but will try and be smart being the changes that have been made and nobody knows what will happen once the cars hit the track...even after the sessions, its going to be totally different when the race starts with 43 cars on the track, so the sessions may not even help this week as much as they usual do in the roster calculations...going to be an interesting wekk for sure

[Optional]

Think I will leave all betting until race morning too.

Nationwide race will probably be most important thing to watch for capping Sunday.

[5mike5]

Think I will leave all betting until race morning too.

Nationwide race will probably be most important thing to watch for capping Sunday.

yeah i agree nationwide will be somewhat important, but still wont give me the information i usually like to have but we will take what we can get....

i wont be sure if ill pull ther trigger on someone early or not, but im going to be extra cautious

[hawk 5]

No fear here. Give me good odds on Stewart and Jimmie and i'm there.

[5mike5]

LOL...very seriously doubt u will get that wish...nothing to fear just being smart as possible

odds will be same ol' same ol' top 4 im sure....between 6-7 to 1, and there absoulutly 0 value in that....but i wont decide anything that i will wager til tomorrow at the earliest

im just sad the year is coming to an end soon....it's been even better than i was hoping for this year

[5mike5]

the only 2 practices will be 1:30 and 5:30 on friday, then qualifying on 1:30 saturday afternoon for Cup


**also on a down note, there is 20%-40% chance of showers on fri, sat, and sun. as of now, but weather changes daily

[5mike5]

still looking over the early odds...definatley nothing of great value in the favorites...the longer odds may be worth something, but odds wont move much at all b4 the sessions so im in no hurry to bet yet

[Optional]

Whether it means anything or not is debatable, but Kurt Busch has a good result and quali record here. But still, he'd probably be higher than +2200 if there was a clear favorite.

[5mike5]

Whether it means anything or not is debatable, but Kurt Busch has a good result and quali record here. But still, he'd probably be higher than +2200 if there was a clear favorite.

i agree but getting kurt busch ay any track at +2200 is always worth a shot, i couldnt knock that early pick at all...just as good as of a longshot there probably is actually

[5mike5]

and i agree opti, im not sure how much earlier tests mean much of anything here with nobosy else even on the track the majority of the time each were running....i mean its something, but not much IMO...they were just testing track, tires, groove, ect...lap times, avgs, ect. werent the main point...heard a great interview on sirrus radio of smoke talking about the test, where he said the same thing

[Optional]

I didn't risk the farm on him. So all good either way at this stage.

Talk me out of automatically fading Smoke please? Maybe I just haven't got my head around him suddenly going nowhere to this competitive yet, but I don't want to back him again this week.

[5mike5]

i cant..lol...hell hes been amazing, even winning at tracks he has never won at before..ive never seen a driver and car just flip a switch and be flat out amazing as soon as the chase started before...ill make my decisions tomorrow on who or if im wagering on anybody early...

[5mike5]

kyle's nationwide sponsor(Z-line) askd him to be replaced by denny at homestead....ouch

[5mike5]

still havent decided anything for early wagers, but harvick and jimmy have the best value IMO...if theres any value at all early this week...nothing spectacular thats for sure ..stewart at +675 is just knee-jerk over capped...casnt deny i havent ever seen momentum like he has though

[DDT]

Mike,

Ive gotta give you credit, you've been making up for lost time with your post count. I think it's time for you to become a "Pro"

[5mike5]

Mike,

Ive gotta give you credit, you've been making up for lost time with your post count. I think it's time for you to become a "Pro"

what can i say?? always alot to talk about in nascar--lol

[5mike5]

the only book i ever use is 5d and never really saw the point in depositing in another book when 5D has more options than anybody else to be honest with you...

[Optional]

PMed you. But basically, it's silly not to if you post here most days anyway.

Just throw 200 in a book that does book to book transfers with 5D. Roll over once then transfer out. Easy peasy.

[5mike5]

never thought about doing that...thanks opti...

[5mike5]

ill be deciding in the morning what early wagers i will take...harvick and jimmy would be the only front runners i would put anything on early....i would also leave some wiggle room to have them as just a cover if need be after the sessions are over...may take a long shot too but theres just no value in many drivers on the top of the list with the new situation here

[Optional]

You could fund the other book with a book2book from 5dimes to start with come to think too. Even easier.

[5mike5]

rousch with only 1 win at phoenix about the last 15 races

hendrick domination, and chevy domination

chevy has won 13 of last 15 races at phoenix

[Optional]

Chevy dominated the times in testing. And dominated the Indy race on the same tire codes too.

[5mike5]

guess im on jimmy early( +750)....may take harvick(+1225) as well but not positive quite yet....like gordon too but wont take him early....

[5mike5]

Mars inc. Confirms they will stick with kyle busch and joe gibbs in 2012 season

[5mike5]

im glad to see everything will probably remain the same for kyle next cup season...but im a kyle fan so im biased---

[5mike5]

scooped up jimmy at +750....if anything further early ill post it up tmorrow morning

[5mike5]

***and toyota has never won at phoenix....damn chevy or bust

[5mike5]

im just ready to get some damn information to feed my need for some statistics on the new track...testing doesnt mean much to me, but at least we will have some good information after the only 2 sessions tomorrow..still even that wont mean alot once the race starts but its better than nothing...im wondering if i should just throw my old phoenix notebook ive built up over the years in the garbage...not sure its going to be helpful ever again

[Optional]

Will you be thinking about Junior at all do you think Mike?

[5mike5]

Will you be thinking about Junior at all do you think Mike?

not unless hes just dominates practices... ate u feeling jr?

[Optional]

Just a gut feel he is ready to put in a good one. Trying to ignore it unless a good reason comes up not too.

[Vegas39]

GL this weekend Mike

[5mike5]

well i ended up with just 1 early wager this and its jimmy(+750)....i like gordon too but just going to wait on him