1. 10-17-11 10:36 PM #1
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    Nascar Good Sam Club 500 Talladega

    Greek has their market up nice n early this week.

    101 Kevin Harvick +1000
    102 Dale Earnhardt Jr +1000
    103 Kyle Busch +1200
    104 Tony Stewart +1200
    105 Jeff Gordon +1200
    106 Jimmie Johnson +1200
    107 Kurt Busch +1200
    108 Clint Bowyer +1500
    109 Carl Edwards +1500
    110 Jamie McMurray +2000
    111 Brad Keselowski +2000
    112 David Ragan +2000
    113 Denny Hamlin +2000
    114 Matt Kenseth +2200
    115 Kasey Kahne +2200
    116 Ryan Newman +2500
    117 Greg Biffle +2500
    118 Joey Logano +2500
    119 Juan Montoya +2500
    120 Jeff Burton +2500
    121 Mark Martin +3000
    122 Brian Vickers +3000
    123 Martin Truex Jr +3500
    124 Paul Menard +3500
    125 David Reutimann +4000
    126 AJ Allmendinger +4000
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    Anyone know for sure what the rules are going to be for this one? They said they would change water blowoff valve pressure and/or reduce grille size a while back but haven't read if that will actually happen this week.
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    yes the rule changes are definatley happening....dont think any1 really knows what to expect becuase they havent tested the rule changes...guess we will all find out friday....im guessing the 2 car tandum wont last very long and will need to swutch 2-3x as often at the least
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    Yes Opti last I heard those rule implemented and a smaller plate

    Will throw a bit on Bowyer
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    article on rule changes for this weekend

    http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup...adega-drafting
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    Nice. A bit more power too.
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  6. 10-19-11 06:56 AM #6
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    2x2 racing may be over. Do we go back to capping this race as a pack of cars. That would mean Gordon, Little E, Stewart and maybe Kyle? It may at least stop the huge underdogs from sneaking out a win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    article on rule changes for this weekend

    http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup...adega-drafting
    Good article.
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  8. 10-19-11 07:02 AM #8
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    Can they still move from last to 1st in a lap or 2? Will Edwards and Harvick Point race? Is that possible at a track like this?
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    Hopefully we will get some idea on Friday...
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  10. 10-19-11 11:31 AM #10
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    I wonder if given a choice at end does Bowyer help Harvick or one one of next years teammates


    I don't think they can really point race on this one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    I wonder if given a choice at end does Bowyer help Harvick or one one of next years teammates


    I don't think they can really point race on this one
    They can sit to the back and wait to come up with a lap or 2 left. But can the get there without over heating. Why not qualify towards the back with a partner and wait. But, if you can't get back to the front in a couple of laps it may be better to try to stay up front.f\*\*k this race
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    Yes Hawk this is gonna be bad but do thinl the chasers will want up front to at least lead a lap and get that point
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    Just had Gordon on Nascar now and he said the only difference is that cars may have to duck out or switch more often.He wasn't happy as he said thats when the wrecks seem to happen on the switches
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    I suppose he would know, but has anybody got in the car and actually tried running this new setup?
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    No friday will be first time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Just had Gordon on Nascar now and he said the only difference is that cars may have to duck out or switch more often.He wasn't happy as he said thats when the wrecks seem to happen on the switches

    Seems so obvious what JG says is right that we have to expect NASCAR has gone far enough, or at least tried to, to stop cars hooking up and swapping for the whole race. If overheating means they have to swap every lap they probably won't make time that way anyway so wont even bother apart from last lap or two. (which could make for an exciting finish)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Seems so obvious what JG says is right that we have to expect NASCAR has gone far enough, or at least tried to, to stop cars hooking up and swapping for the whole race. If overheating means they have to swap every lap they probably won't make time that way anyway so wont even bother apart from last lap or two. (which could make for an exciting finish)
    You think they are going back to pack racing then? I have to agree. Last lap could be back to 2 by 2 crazy shet. I love it and hate it. Liking Stewart. But will wait to bet him.
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    Think we could see pack racing til end.know Fords ran cooler so they may try it with 2 of them
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    Feel the same way Hawk. Love both, hate both at times... a bit of both together might be great!

    And feeling good about Smoke too. As well as Newman.
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    As a Newman fan I just hope he finishes with all 4 wheels on ground,though he did lead most lap at both Daytona races
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    Think I'll try and back anyone that comes with a brand new chassis this week. Seems as good a way to cap this as any to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Think I'll try and back anyone that comes with a brand new chassis this week. Seems as good a way to cap this as any to me

    Sounds better than my pulling names from hat idea
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    no way the 2 car tandem is stopped.i think they have tried again, but just like changes to every plate race this year the drivers figure it out everytime...and listening to drivers this week they dont think the changes will stop anything this time either..id be suprised if we see much of a difference besides blown motors and a few more wrecks...i really wont care either way, cause i like certain elements of 2 car and certain elements of the pack..but i just very seriously doubt we will see pack racing ever again until real big changes take place
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    tidbit- 33 of the 84 races have been won by the p1 and p2 starters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk 5 View Post
    tidbit- 33 of the 84 races have been won by the p1 and p2 starters.
    Did not know that stat wow
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    Hey guys, make sure you don't miss out on the lines for the winner of the race at SBRsportsbook under NASCAR FUTURES.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dax View Post
    Hey guys, make sure you don't miss out on the lines for the winner of the race at SBRsportsbook under NASCAR FUTURES.

    I'm on.
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    Drivers with new chasis this weekend

    McMurray

    Kyle Busch

    Menard

    Harvick

    Burton - Chasis tested at Daytona but never raced

    Montoya
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    After first practice seems cars can draft at least 20 laps together so that's a good thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Drivers with new chasis this weekend

    McMurray

    Kyle Busch

    Menard

    Harvick

    Burton - Chasis tested at Daytona but never raced

    Montoya
    Thanks Vegas.

    Won't count Burton as that car was built last year... guess the other 5 will be my bets this week!

    Might use them as one side of the picks game too.
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    Kevin Harvick (+1000)
    Kyle Busch (+1200)
    Jamie McMurray (+2000)
    Juan Montoya (+2500)
    Paul Menard (+3500)

    Went a half unit on each at Greek to get started.
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    Hope that works for you opti. I'm thinking along the lines of the pushers and the pushees. Such as M Martin pushing Jeff Gordon has to be good for Jeff. Earnhart pushing Jimmie has to be bad even though they won it that way in the spring. Both are in the chase. Bobby Labonte pushing Stewart? Can't get behind that combo. Lagono and Kyle just aren't very good at this. Edwards and Biffle looked damn good with Biffle just needing to be a good teammate. Anyway you get the idea.
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    That's the way I've tried to think the previous couple of these races. Just being lazy really. Agree Kyle is a fade. But think Tony was probably just practicing with Cassill and Labonte to try and make sure the team has as many single friends out there as possible.

    I do like the way the EGR pair approached practice. In their brand new cars, so I'm not sorry to be holding them. Others are just because I said I would really. (and we both know what would happen if I didn't)
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    Is Edwards going to work Biffle by looks eh?

    Thought he said he would be sticking with Bayne all race.
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    Practiced with Biffle.
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