1. 11-10-12 11:19 AM #36
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    So when the ABs play 'bad' it's all their fault? Never the opposition pressuring them? ...
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  2. 11-10-12 11:26 AM #37
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    I'll let you think what you want, if you think that aussie forward pack could match the all blacks consistently then well, i have no comment.
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  3. 11-10-12 12:06 PM #38
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    South Africa not looking good early on... better regroup at half time.
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  4. 11-10-12 12:14 PM #39
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    Man, where the hell are the boks right now? I can't find a place to watch the game online, but just following the score it looks like Ireland is having their way with them. Hopefully they come out to play in the 2H.
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  5. 11-10-12 12:20 PM #40
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    write off morning...boks and man u, sigh.
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  6. 11-10-12 12:22 PM #41
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    like i posted in the other thread South Africa is useless against a decent opponent in away games.
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  7. 11-10-12 12:23 PM #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by usfunca View Post
    Man, where the hell are the boks right now? I can't find a place to watch the game online, but just following the score it looks like Ireland is having their way with them. Hopefully they come out to play in the 2H.
    http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/1520...th-africa.html
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  8. 11-10-12 12:23 PM #43
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    yeah i had my concerns but i really thought ireland would fold without their big guns. lesson learnt
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  9. 11-10-12 12:28 PM #44
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    You guys act like you've never lost a bet before :P
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  10. 11-10-12 12:30 PM #45
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    i'm disappointed i stayed up all night...didn't hit england big enough, then i put my big plays on the boks and man u when i didn't have the greatest of feelings. ah well....bring on the miracles
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  11. 11-10-12 01:21 PM #46
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    Hope some of you guys got that early -3.5. Far from the most enjoyable match...

    Lets hope the aussies can make this a good night.
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  12. 11-10-12 01:26 PM #47
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    • 11/11/2012 02:57 AM
    • Ireland vs South Africa
    • 2Alternate Line) South Africa ( -2.5) @ 1.62
    • $50.00
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    • 11/11/2012 02:57 AM
    • Aston Villa vs Manchester United
    • 2Straight) Manchester United @ 1.42


    miracles are for real
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  13. 11-10-12 01:36 PM #48
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    Ireland came out with a spirited performance in the 1st half. Probably should've expected that since their last match was 0-60 and they would've been running on passion. Showed in the 2nd how much they missed their best players. Once they get them back they'll be pretty formidable if they can play for 80 like they did in the 1st.

    Sexton for Lions 10.
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  14. 11-10-12 02:45 PM #49
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    Can the Wallabies do anything right? Bloody crap
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  15. 11-10-12 03:24 PM #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweepem View Post
    http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/1520...th-africa.html
    Thanks much.
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  16. 11-10-12 03:57 PM #51
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    I can't believe we were ever discussing that the french pack and scrum would struggle! the wallabies are a myth.

    France have a huge future, they have an awesome squad.

    We'll get em next week boys
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  17. 11-10-12 05:04 PM #52
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    Congrats to the guys who picked France, must say I was surprised at the result especially with France fielding such an inexperienced squad. Also the boks winning but failing to cover ATS was rather frustrating after such a nice start to the night with the Pumas.

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    *At least we hit on the largest play to keep the loss to a minimum.

    Might have a play tonight on the All Blacks v Scotland later...?
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  18. 11-10-12 05:11 PM #53
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    It's hard to go past abs on the minus if the weather is good.

    Vito and Thomson in the loosies worries me, neither really get stuck in their work and are more ballcarriers looking for tries...both shouldn't be on the field the same time but we'll see what happens.

    abs or no play really, i never bet against the all blacks because yes i am a fan but more so because you know the men in black can smack anybody by any margin anyday when they're on.
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  19. 11-10-12 06:06 PM #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by davopnz View Post
    i never bet against the all blacks because yes i am a fan
    I back against the Wannabes - that can be pretty profitable.
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  20. 11-11-12 02:13 AM #55
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    Backing the Scots tonight fellas. That line has dropped to 25.5 and 24.5 in a lot of places. I'm taking the 26.5 on offer at Sportingbet (1.91). Also looking to increase that by buying back on Betfair if I can get matched.
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  21. 11-11-12 03:38 PM #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by davopnz View Post
    abs or no play really, i never bet against the all blacks because yes i am a fan but more so because you know the men in black can smack anybody by any margin anyday when they're on.
    51-22
    abs are just so unpredictable on the points spread. learnt my lesson this yr when they played ireland in chch and aus in brisbane. everythin looked good but they played like crap(one win by drop goal, one draw) and when everything not looking so flash with injuries or etc they smashed the opponent by large margin. my suggestion for abs matches is to bet on totals, it's more predictable, and take abs when they have low point spread(usually never happens and normally when they are away) no matter the lineup or watever factors(expect for really bad weather). for example -6.5 against aus(27-19), -12.5 against puma(54-15), and -5.5(32-16) when they take on SA in rugby champion earlier this yr.
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  22. 11-11-12 05:08 PM #57
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    AB's cover ATS by 29 points, I had a feeling this line was spot on and decided to stay away but will be back with some more plays next w/e. Thanks for all the input lads, no doubt this thread is full of useful info for those just getting into Rugby or wishing to expand their knowledge of the great game.
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  23. 11-12-12 04:34 AM #58
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    i think the abs will smack the italian pussies by 50+, they could have done that to scotland today but the defense was sloppy.

    they won't be happy about conceding 3 tries, so expect some much better defense. Also that muppet thomson will be out of the mix now.
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  24. 11-12-12 08:16 AM #59
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    Wales-Samoa on Friday, Italy-NZ, England-Australia, Scotland-South Africa and France-Argentina on Saturday.

    Let's hope for some decent spreads.

    NZ should be a 26.5-28 fav, South Africa 15.5-17, England 3.5-4.5, France 7.5-8.5 not sure about Wales(14.5-16.5?).

    One thing that disturbs me is that the NZ,Australia and South Africa games all start at the same time.

    Scotland-South Africa on Sunday afternoon would've been great since both are in the same time zone.
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  25. 11-12-12 08:31 AM #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweepem View Post
    One thing that disturbs me is that the NZ,Australia and South Africa games all start at the same time.

    Scotland-South Africa on Sunday afternoon would've been great since both are in the same time zone.
    This bothered me a lil bit as well, its not like its a ton of games so one would think they could spread them out a little bit better over the weekend.

    Enjoy reading all you guys' rugby insight, keep it going!
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  26. 11-12-12 03:02 PM #61
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    ab spread already out in nz TAB. -28.5 & totals at 51.5.

    abs total over 39.5 look like easy money if weather is fine. 51.5 a bit risky coz you don't know if italy gonna score any points. scot scored 3 tries and 2 of them are from abs mistake.
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  27. 11-12-12 09:52 PM #62
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    +7.5 Leicester v Maori All Blacks
    -12.5 Wales v Samoa
    -4.5 England v Australia
    +11.5 Scotland v South Africa
    -9.5 France v Argentina

    thoughts guys? i like maori abs -7.5 for tomo. dont know much about leicester but maori abs has a pretty decent lineup.
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  28. 11-13-12 12:14 AM #63
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    I like Maori ABs -7.5 as well. Is there a stream somewhere? not even the rugby channel has it.

    I like Samoa +12.5, they smashed canada so they'll be in sync. Wales looked like mud against argentina, Samoa went toe to toe with a better wales them @ the WC.

    England -4.5, again they'll be in sync for the most part bar some big guns back i'm assuming, the wallabies are a myth, will continue fading them.

    Scotland/SA...I don't know...SA is awful on the road, Scotland looked ok.

    France -9.5, France are awesome.
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  29. 11-13-12 02:52 PM #64
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    Samoa +12.5 looking good. Alun-Wyn Jones & Jamie Roberts added to wales injury list. Adam Jones & Dan Lydiate already ruled out of the series. Ryan Jones & Ashley Beck in doubt.
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  30. 11-13-12 04:46 PM #65
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    lol maoris couldnt even beat a club team.

    time to ditch that team and bring in an NZ A team so Anscombe and Ardie Savea can play.
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  31. 11-15-12 01:10 AM #66
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    Friday 16th November

    Wales v Samoa (Millenium Stadium Cardiff)

    Samoa +11.5 (-110, $1.90 Sportingbet) 2x

    Too many points to give up against a Samoan team on the rise! Yes there is a big angle to be played in Wales having their pants pulled down by a dominant Pumas side last w/e in front of their adoring home crowd, and no doubt Wales will be fired up and ready for a big game, etc, etc. They have even taken the extraodinary step of dropping captain Sam Warburton for this match. Samoa however will likely be fired up as well, as when these teams last met about a year ago in NZ, it was Samoa playing the better Rugby leading 10-6 at the half before Wales snatched the match in the second half 17-10. Samoa have have been very impressive lately recording a recent win against Australia, 3 narrow losses against higher ranked teams, and crushing the two teams they were supposed to beat. Wales in terrible form with 3 dissapointing losses against Australia (where they were considered a massive chance to knock off the Wallabies) followed by last weeks poor effort against a fired up Pumas side (that we cashed on).

    Wales Samoa
    Wales - Argentina 12-26 16-17 Samoa - Scotland
    Australia - Wales 20-19 13-5 South Africa - Samoa
    Australia - Wales 25-23 7-27 Fiji - Samoa
    Brumbies - Wales 15-25 17-10 Wales - Samoa
    Australia - Wales 27-19 49-12 Samoa - Namibia
    Wales - Barbarians 30-21 23-32 Australia - Samoa



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  32. 11-15-12 01:18 AM #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by qwe123 View Post
    Sando would you take Samoa +10.5 @ -110?
    10.5 is ok if that's the best you can get but just play it for the 1 unit to be safe mate.
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  33. 11-15-12 01:32 AM #68
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    Sando would you take Samoa +10.5 @ -110?

    EDIT: Thanks mate
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  34. 11-15-12 02:12 PM #69
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    I'm going with Wales 1-12 tonight
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  35. 11-15-12 03:17 PM #70
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    Their styles of rugby are incredibly hard to cap, would lay off this game.
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