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    Denmark - Handboldligaen

    Wed 12/14 401 AG Kobenhavn +6½ -115 o54 -115
    1:30PM 402 Viborg Hk -6½ -115 u54 -115

    World Championship - Women Final Round

    Wed 12/14 407 France +2½ -115 o49 -115
    8:45AM 408 Russia -2½ -115 u49 -115

    Wed 12/14 409 Denmark -2 -115 o46 -115
    11:30AM 410 Angola +2 -115 u46 -115

    Wed 12/14 411 Norway -5½ -115 o52 -115
    2:15PM 412 Croatia +5½ -115 u52 -115

    Wed 12/14 413 Spain +1½ -110 o49 -115
    5:00PM 414 Brazil -1½ -120 u49 -115

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    Quote Originally Posted by illcrushem View Post
    you dont like russia -2.5?
    russia might be the best, toughest and most strictly coached team that was in the tournament. they are playing against a Very good scoring team so it might be difficult.
    its really hard to stop goals in handball.

    Quote Originally Posted by MatI View Post
    Angola are underdogs again.
    yeah because they're a small country that many people have never even heard of.

    denmark has seen a lot of success against weak teams but needed overtime a couple days ago when they were forced to play a capable one.

    angola will probably win this by around 10 goals i would guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Denmark - Handboldligaen

    Wed 12/14 401 AG Kobenhavn +6½ -115 o54 -115
    1:30PM 402 Viborg Hk -6½ -115 u54 -115

    World Championship - Women Final Round
    ...
    Wed 12/14 409 Denmark -2 -115 o46 -115
    11:30AM 410 Angola +2 -115 u46 -115
    ...
    that first one is likely men's handball and i've only seen maybe 2 games and that was a long time ago. women's handball is easier to cap because its just very obvious when some teams have women that can score frequently being defended by women.

    *they're down to semi-finals i think now so all these teams are good.

    the goalies of angola and brazil will probably win one of them the tournament. they are good.

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    What site has real time updates of ongoing matches?

    http://www.ihf.info/

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    bet365 if you pull up live bets you can follow the score and if you have 1+ dollar in your 365 account you can watch the match there also.

    i usually watch it on there or firstrow. livescorehunter.com has many handball score sites but sometimes a lot of them don't get updated fast. you know....because its women's handball.

    not sure if these are quarter-finals or semi-finals but these are the best teams. played eachother 2 days ago but that mighta been for 5-8th place or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    yeah because they're a small country that many people have never even heard of.

    denmark has seen a lot of success against weak teams but needed overtime a couple days ago when they were forced to play a capable one.

    angola will probably win this by around 10 goals i would guess.
    Ok, thanks for the info. I'm on this one with you.

    Worth a punt on the ML?

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    yes if your book has it

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    Got it at b365 for +300. cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatI View Post
    Got it at b365 for +300. cheers.
    That's +200 (3.00) right?

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    ok i just put like 40% of my roll on Angola at +2. Definitely just need one set!! Hope you're right bud. (8 out of my 20 units)

    If this holds I will go heavy on Brazil too, maybe not as heavy. If what you say is correct then Angola should have no problem winning just one set.

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    yeah sorry typo, it was +200 (3.00) and technically it is not a proper ML bet, as it has draw option.

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    er, actually not sure how it's scored. Should I hedge some? I'm a bit concerned now lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleRedDragon View Post
    ok i just put like 40% of my roll on Angola at +2. Definitely just need one set!! Hope you're right bud. (8 out of my 20 units)

    If this holds I will go heavy on Brazil too, maybe not as heavy. If what you say is correct then Angola should have no problem winning just one set.
    Holy crap dude. That's a lot to be wagering on a sport you don't know much about!
    This is handball, not volleyball there are no sets, just goals.

    I was on Denmark on Monday against Japan and they looked very ordinary, turning the ball over and giving up lots of fouls/penalties. They were very lucky to get to this stage so given the odds, I also think that Angola has a great chance here, but 40% of your BR?

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    I know... my bankroll is only like $400 (well now it's much less). I am watching some youtube handball now of Angola, they look good. So I just bet $175 to win $150 for Angola, and parlayed for $100 to win $242 Angola and Brazil.

    I have $496.50 in bets pending now and $116 left. I deposited $185 the other day, so I can't complain TOO much if I lose! Definitely nerve wracking though lol. Just want to build my bankroll aggressively but I may have overdone it here.

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    this is late in a tournament. only the best teams remain. you should never make relatively large wagers on women's sports and especially not against good teams.

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    Ah okay, I will hedge some then. Thanks!

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    Yikes dude is trying to lose his shirt by lunch time

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    40% of your roll on a play you know nothing about = never ends well should be auto fade

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    11-6 Denmark with 11 minutes to play in the first half.

    Offensively this looks like a completely different team to the one that play against Japan. Those little inside transfers are killing the Angolans.

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    12-7 now. theres a lotta ups and downs because its a game with a lot of scoring. feel free to get a live piece of it with me now at this early deficit or just hold the position you have. its a game of runs like basketball.

    +1000 only down a few. they're calling fouls tightly which is hurting us but they have a smart coach and i feel he will adjust at the half. maybe sooner. they had a brief time-out.

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    plus 1000 wow

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    they're losing the turnover battle 10-3 down 4 with the ball and a few minutes left in the half.

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    Danish are playing well plus they're fouling which is not helping.

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    3 point game heading close into the half, looking much better than it was looking earlier. Angola is much better than they were to start the match... probably just nerves.

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    Danish just foul foul foul. It's really hurting my bottom line :P

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    Ok, down 4 at the half. I think Angola can come back here. Hoping hoping hoping. Very interesting to watch and I'm now a huge handball fan!

    Those danish girls are hot!!

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    yeah its a really cool game. it looks really fun to play.

    i also think and hope they can do it too. theyve closed the gap 1 goal since they allowed a scoring run to make it 10-5 so hopefully the coach can make some adjustments now defensively and offensively.

    i cant tell what exactly hes saying but you can just tell by who hes talking to and how hes talking to them and his bodylanguage and hand movement. plus just looking into his eyes you can tell he knows something about what hes talking about usually.

    and they do seem to make adjustments in other games ive watched. denmark has some softball pitcher-looking chicks who have some highlight reel goals but its a lot of penalty shots and turnovers that is the difference.

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    honestly i'm just so tired of seeing the Danish foul to keep their lead and prevent shots. It's probably going to be the way they win... not sure how Angola can get around it... is there a limit to the amount of fouls in the game? They just keep holding Angola and preventing the shots...

    Also the Angola passes inside under pressure are NOT working. Too many turnovers.

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    and what's up with the defense... HARDLY any stops... I guess I'm new and just a bit confused.

    Anyways if they can get within two which I think is highly possible seeing them play (but not at the bottom of their range like in the first half) I will be happy with my push.

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    Wow, down goes our best looking player. That's no good.

    Within 2!

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    they're within 2 now. 18-20

    yeah denmark has some precision throwers apparently. they are matt cassell, angola is brady quinn with their strength. (in terms of b qbs)

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    This shit is actually pretty cool.
    I got it on vipstands live feed

    22-20

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    It's a cracking match. Very evenly matched, Angola just had that ugly phase in the first half which they are still struggling to recover from.

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    Not looking good they really just score every time, Denmark.

    Oh and then they miss the fast break... really not good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleRedDragon View Post
    Not looking good they really just score every time, Denmark.

    Oh and then they miss the fast break... really not good.
    The Danish goalkeeper is one of the best in the tournament. She saved three penalty throws against Japan on Monday, without her they were out.

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