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    last race at nyra tracks,kentucky tracks and gulfstream

    tend to like the types of races they card last and want to limit it to the top tier tracks above.. can focus more with a limited menu

    must be posted before R6 (90% of time much earlier)

    2WP .. simple as possible

    post 5 ammended betting



    maximum 2 races /day..if I like all 3 i'm not scrutinizing enough

    if i know I'm not playing on a particular day either because I don't like anything or I'm just not looking i will give advance notice on occasion


    off turf no play except for gulfstream races switched to the tapeta .. if I notice this happens during the card I will try to warn but no guarantees

    off track horses have to be removed before R6..probably much earlier..this will be easier to do with less plays and late races



    will grade and tally..10 play / week max so shouldn't be a chore..probably a weekly tally


    will commit through belmont meet (7/10)


    feel free to post a pick if you like one of these races


    if I can think of something else will add



    fts = first time starter

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    aqueduct

    R9 #4 merger of equals (5-1) 4WP (explained post 5)


    fts extremely expensive for pedigree..chad brown on fire and ridiculous win % with manny franco..expect to be a lot lower

    there's a reasonable chance this is going to be taken off turf as mid afternoon rain is forecasted ..no play then




    gulfstream



    R8 #10 frosty secret (30-1) 2WP (explained post 5)

    fts homebred with a sneaky good pedigree including dam info..outside posts very good on the all weather surface





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    added gulfstream 8..done for tomorrow

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    forgot to write gulfstream for the 2nd pick..you probably figured that out by the update but just in case I'll give it a mention

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    tend to like the types of races they card last and want to limit it to the top tier tracks above.. can focus more with a limited menu

    must be posted before R6 (90% of time much earlier)

    2WP .. simple as possible



    maximum 2 plays/day..if I like all 3 i'm not scrutinizing enough

    if i know I'm not playing on a particular day either because I don't like anything or I'm just not looking i will give advance notice on occasion


    off turf no play..if I notice this happens during the card I will try to warn but no guarantees

    off track horses have to be removed before R6..probably much earlier..this will be easier to do with less plays and late races



    will grade and tally..10 play / week max so shouldn't be a chore..probably a weekly tally


    will commit through belmont meet (7/10)


    feel free to post a pick if you like one of these races


    if I can think of something else will add



    fts = first time starter

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    really doesn't make sense to not reflect the odds in betting and not like I'm making so many plays that it's hard to tally

    by morning line

    <= 8-1 will be 4WP
    10-1 to 15-1 will be 3WP
    20-1 + will be 2 WP

    using a 2nd horse 2WP .. only if main play is 15-1 ml or less

    realize horses will often go off in different odds brackets from their ml but this is a good enough framework
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    ***********


    thursday 4/14

    aqu .. out @ 6-1 (8)
    gp .. out @ 39-1 (4)



    friday 4/15


    gp.. out @ 3-1 (8)
    kee.. out @ 11-1 (8)
    kee .. out @ 55-1 (4)

    saturday .. 4/16

    gp .. scratch
    gp .. 3rd @ 5-1(4) **


    ** wasn't thinking about gp off turf races being run on the tapeta vs on the dirt..going to split the difference with a $4 loss instead of $8..from now on turf races moved to the tapeta will count



    sunday..4/17


    gp ..2nd @ 3-1 $4.80 ($9.60/8)
    gp .. out @ 58-1 (4)


    8 plays
    9.60 /48 inv/ret
    22-1 avg odds
    [.20 roi]


    instead of number of races it'll be number of plays..much easier to do avg odds that way






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    added another rule to money mgmt

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    want to focus on this for the most part through at least the end of the belmont meet..if not doing it is pointless


    more than likely will do saratoga


    exceptions will be

    triple crown race days and the friday before

    opening day at belmont

    meadowlands and hong kong

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    tend to like the types of races they card last and want to limit it to the top tier tracks above.. can focus more with a limited menu

    must be posted before R6 (90% of time much earlier)

    2WP .. simple as possible



    maximum 2 plays/day..if I like all 3 i'm not scrutinizing enough

    if i know I'm not playing on a particular day either because I don't like anything or I'm just not looking i will give advance notice on occasion


    off turf no play..if I notice this happens during the card I will try to warn but no guarantees

    off track horses have to be removed before R6..probably much earlier..this will be easier to do with less plays and late races



    will grade and tally..10 play / week max so shouldn't be a chore..probably a weekly tally


    will commit through belmont meet (7/10)


    feel free to post a pick if you like one of these races


    if I can think of something else will add



    fts = first time starter

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    really doesn't make sense to not reflect the odds in betting and not like I'm making so many plays that it's hard to tally

    by morning line

    <= 8-1 will be 4WP
    10-1 to 15-1 will be 3WP
    20-1 + will be 2 WP

    using a 2nd horse 2WP .. only if main play is 15-1 ml or less

    realize horses will often go off in different odds brackets from their ml but this is a good enough framework
    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    want to focus on this for the most part through at least the end of the belmont meet..if not doing it is pointless


    more than likely will do saratoga


    exceptions will be

    triple crown race days and the friday before

    opening day at belmont

    meadowlands and hong kong
    Going to review the official rules and join the group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    Going to review the official rules and join the group.


    sure b o a.. if you want you can just pick amongst those races (1 or 2 of the 3) and not tally or grade

    just grade/not tally or both.. up to you


    basically it's a choice of picking up to 2 of the last races amongst the 3 major east coast tracks (NY, KY and gulfstream) .. have to leave out at least one so there's some scrutinization (first I've used that word)

    bet amounts are automatic based on ml.. always WP
    added a 2nd horse option (must be 2WP) if your main is 15-1 ml or less

    scheduled turf must be run on turf (JBEX)


    off track horses must be removed before R6..since it's the last race there's time to take plays off..if not taken off they count.. if track goes sloppy (or taken off turf) after R6 for me play will not count.. if you want them to count for you (off tracks, turf always no play on dirt) that's fine




    we are the group






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    4:48 CST// KEE R10. #4 Napa Candy 9/2 $4WP. /// 4:32 CST// 6F Turf AQU R9. #2 Solid Tune 8-1 $4WP. BOL 2 US & ALL
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    going to start off with avg odds but you don't have to do that.. I'll probably tire of it (as always) before may

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    4:48 CST// KEE R10. #4 Napa Candy 9/2 $4WP.

    welcome aboard b o a think I covered about everything other than plays have to be in before R6 goes off.. mine will usually be much earlier

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    sure b o a.. if you want you can just pick amongst those races (1 or 2 of the 3) and not tally or grade

    just grade/not tally or both.. up to you


    basically it's a choice of picking up to 2 of the last races amongst the 3 major east coast tracks (NY, KY and gulfstream) .. have to leave out at least one so there's some scrutinization (first I've used that word)

    bet amounts are automatic based on ml.. always WP
    added a 2nd horse option (must be 2WP) if your main is 15-1 ml or less

    scheduled turf must be run on turf

    off track horses must be removed before R6..since it's the last race there's time to take plays off..if not taken off they count.. if track goes sloppy (or taken off turf) after R6 for me play will not count.. if you want them to count for you (off tracks, turf always no play on dirt) that's fine




    we are the group






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    We are a fun group,. I'll go all Oscar Madison's Room, slop, mess and Off turf , OK W/me. You can Unger up, Felix. Real men give bail out plays 7 daze.

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    gp

    R9 #4 royal mahogany (7-2) 4WP






    aqu


    R9 #3 misspelled moon (8-1)


    not scratched..just the one I'm eliminating






    kee

    R10 #1 oma the great (8-1) 4WP

    #7 be tough (50-1) 2WP





    experimenting with doing this..have to remove 1 and if I don't the latest post race will not count..in R10 @ kee there will have to be a secondary horse (2WP) if I play both..most likely that'll be #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    We are a fun group,. I'll go all Oscar Madison's Room, slop, mess and Off turf , OK W/me. You can Unger up, Felix. Real men give bail out plays 7 daze.
    good analogy .. if you want off the turf and sloppy races to count for you that's ok..felix will not have it

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    gp

    R9 #4 royal mahogany (7-2)


    aqu


    R9 #3 misspelled moon (8-1)


    kee

    R10 #1 oma the great (8-1)

    #7 be tough (50-1)


    experimenting with doing this..have to remove 1 and if I don't the latest post race will not count..in R10 @ kee there will have to be a secondary horse (2WP) if I play both..most likely that'll be #7
    After reading this through out #8 apple a day a short lived post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    good analogy .. if you want off the turf and sloppy races to count for you that's ok..felix will not have it
    You're one cat J, some say just as clean .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    After reading this though out #8 apple a day a short lived post.
    short lived post ?? I know it's kee

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    short lived post ?? I know it's kee
    Edited Post after Adding KEE R10 #8 apple a day, only one play per race. Lasted 60 seconds and erased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    You're one cat J, some say just as clean .



    gotcha on apple a day..you now have #4

    as always like this just post changes

    we can be on the same horses

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    eliminated 1 play so have my 2 for the day


    post 15

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    4:48 CST// KEE R10. #4 Napa Candy 9/2 $4WP. /// 4:32 CST// 6F Turf AQU R9. #2 Solid Tune 8-1 $4WP. BOL 2 US & ALL

    nice pick

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    updated results post 6 ..tally next week

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    nice pick
    Bailed me out of my failed first 9 attempts. Why I love this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    4:48 CST// KEE R10. #4 Napa Candy 9/2 $4WP. /// 4:32 CST// 6F Turf AQU R9. #2 Solid Tune 8-1 $4WP. BOL 2 US & ALL
    KEE R10 #4- $11.00- $5.40. AQU R9 #2 ran 4th. (2)32.80/16 (2.05) 5:13 CST AQU R10. Tapizearance #10 10-1 $3WP.// On Tap 5:20 CST KEE R11. Chocolate Bar 6-1 $4WP. BOL2ALL
    Last edited by BOA12; 04-16-22 at 02:28 PM.

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    nothing @ aqu or kee


    gulfstream

    R11 #8 seven bridges road (8-1) 4WP
    R11 #3 travel guide (15-1) 2WP *

    * it's 2 instead of 3 because it's the 2nd horse




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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    KEE R10 #4- $11.00- $5.40. AQU R9 #2 ran 4th. (2)32.80/16 (2.05) 5:13 CST AQU R10. Tapizearance #10 10-1 $4WP.// On Tap 5:20 CST KEE R11. Chocolate Bar 6-1 $4WP. BOL2ALL

    10-1 to 15-1 is 3WP...gl today b o a

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    10-1 to 15-1 is 3WP...gl today b o a
    Made adjustment..... U always have to watch me .

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    Made adjustment..... U always have to watch me .
    no problem

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    updated post 6

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    gulfstream (all that's available today)


    R10

    #7 ken loves kitten (7-2) 4WP
    #1 principe (20-1) 2WP




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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    KEE R10 #4- $11.00- $5.40. AQU R9 #2 ran 4th. (2)32.80/16 (2.05) 5:13 CST AQU R10. Tapizearance #10 10-1 $3WP.// On Tap 5:20 CST KEE R11. Chocolate Bar 6-1 $4WP. BOL2ALL
    Aqu R10 a disappearance by Tapearance. KEE R11 Choc Bar couldn't run that far. // (4)32.80/30 {1.09} 5:00 CST GP R10 #11 Food Bank Helper 8-1. 4WP. Happy Easter & BOL2ALL GP R10 #10 Moon At Midnight 20-1 2WP. // #11 $13.20 $5.60. #10 ran 10th.// (6)70.40/42 {1.67} 3:44 CST R8. #7 Isthmian 12-1 3WP. BOL2ALL
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    Added GP R10

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
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    thursday 4/14

    aqu .. out @ 6-1 (8)
    gp .. out @ 39-1 (4)



    friday 4/15


    gp.. out @ 3-1 (8)
    kee.. out @ 11-1 (8)
    kee .. out @ 55-1 (4)

    saturday .. 4/16

    gp .. scratch
    gp .. 3rd @ 5-1(4) **


    ** wasn't thinking about gp off turf races being run on the tapeta vs on the dirt..going to split the difference with a $4 loss instead of $8..from now on turf races moved to the tapeta will count



    sunday..4/17


    gp ..2nd @ 3-1 $4.80 ($9.60/8)
    gp .. out @ 58-1 (4)


    8 plays
    22-1 avg odds
    180 cumulative odds
    (9.60 /48) ret/inv
    [.20 ] roi


    [1.00] roi = even


    instead of number of races it'll be number of plays..much easier to do avg odds that way






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    week 1




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