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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    Would truly appreciate one of our more astute handicappers opinions on this race.

    Just spent 20 minutes discussing with a friend who has been in and around horse racing for 40 years. Not sure we got but I would truly appreciate some further insight as this is quite an interesting entry.

    Ran last at 5.5 F for Baffert. Apparently a 4yr old as carrying +8 pounds. Was apparently placed in Maiden Claimer (Last) for 150K claim. I guess hoping he wouldn't get claimed?? Got claimed and sent to Sean McCarthy, yet same jock. Now placed in 67K MSW. Adding .5F.

    Any help??
    This is quite the mystery. I'm launching an investigation after R5 KEE on the 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    Would truly appreciate one of our more astute handicappers opinions on this race.

    Just spent 20 minutes discussing with a friend who has been in and around horse racing for 40 years. Not sure we got but I would truly appreciate some further insight as this is quite an interesting entry.

    Ran last at 5.5 F for Baffert. Apparently a 4yr old as carrying +8 pounds. Was apparently placed in Maiden Claimer (Last) for 150K claim. I guess hoping he wouldn't get claimed?? Got claimed and sent to Sean McCarthy, yet same jock. Now placed in 67K MSW. Adding .5F.

    Any help??
    This is a small class drop, this horse romps. Mike Smith on the 1ster #10 the ML favorite. Beware but I'm taking that dare. BOL Madison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    This is quite the mystery. I'm launching an investigation after R5 KEE on the 4.
    I'm thinking this may be a go. If you watched the first start he is clearly green/rank, but if they just keep him clear and let him run looks like a strong entry. Either way, keeping in stable as looks live to me. Little concerned they stayed with Jock, but maybe a Baffert thing??

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    This is a small class drop, this horse romps. Mike Smith on the 1ster #10 the ML favorite. Beware but I'm taking that dare. BOL Madison.
    Let's get it brother. TVG money back special. Also isn't it a little weird to have a 67K MSW as the 10th and final. Either way I'm pretty sure I'll do my usual 1/2/3 WPS if the pools comply. Think this one is a runner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    Let's get it brother. TVG money back special. Also isn't it a little weird to have a 67K MSW as the 10th and final. Either way I'm pretty sure I'll do my usual 1/2/3 WPS if the pools comply. Think this one is a runner.
    Bail out play of the day 9/5 my guess. Win only 4me this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    Bail out play of the day 9/5 my guess. Win only 4me this time.
    Agree to a large degree. They fire here (I think) or maybe not and we get him later. BOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    Agree to a large degree. They fire here (I think) or maybe not and we get him later. BOL.
    I got a clue, they, U and me are all due. Sooner than later, this one a lover not a hater. I have a degree in agree.

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    Doesn't get much easier than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    Yeah another likely short price. Very green in last. Shuffled/Spooked? back 4 lengths in first MSW. Then got taken well wide and came strong at 5.5F. 6F today but a little bigger field. Sometimes I get befuddled as to why jocks get boxed in trying to save ground? and they've got a ton of horse under them. If they would have just let this one run in the middle of the track would have been easy win last out.

    Off to check the thread to see what you folks have for today. BOL!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    Thanks Bud! Waiting on a couple others to come back. Not a ton of picks, but so far 90% have been live so I guess I'll keep posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    Thanks Bud! Waiting on a couple others to come back. Not a ton of picks, but so far 90% have been live so I guess I'll keep posting.
    Budding Superstars/ 90% live picks , that's what I call living. Your Av is mesmerizing like your stable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    Budding Superstars/ 90% live picks , that's what I call living. Your Av is mesmerizing like your stable.
    AV = Cassiopeia (constellation) - Wikipedia

    Hubble and space has always intrigued me..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    AV = Cassiopeia (constellation) - Wikipedia

    Hubble and space has always intrigued me..
    Your interests and hobby in Hubble & Space bodes well 4 those going WP. Cassiopeia Constellation has my admiration. Cat's Meow Mman.

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    Stable play (Cashed last)

    OAK R12 Lochmoor. I'm posting this not so much as I think this is a winner here but more as a "Keep your eye's on".

    I cashed last at 5-1. Very little speed. Stabled at Maiden claiming. Cashed at MSW but came from well back late.

    Think this might be a step to high?? , especially at 6F. Interesting that carrying only 114lbs. Not sure why they left in at 25K Optional Claiming?

    To my untrained eye this one looks to be begging for 7-8F at a Minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    OAK R12 Lochmoor. I'm posting this not so much as I think this is a winner here but more as a "Keep your eye's on".

    I cashed last at 5-1. Very little speed. Stabled at Maiden claiming. Cashed at MSW but came from well back late.

    Think this might be a step to high?? , especially at 6F. Interesting that carrying only 114lbs. Not sure why they left in at 25K Optional Claiming?

    To my untrained eye this one looks to be begging for 7-8F at a Minimum.
    You might be right. I like #10. Backside of an exacta or tri maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    You might be right. I like #10. Backside of an exacta or tri maybe.
    Seems logical. BOL!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    You might be right. I like #10. Backside of an exacta or tri maybe.
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    Seems logical. BOL!!
    I'm just playing #10 WP. BOL Mman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    OAK R12 Lochmoor. I'm posting this not so much as I think this is a winner here but more as a "Keep your eye's on".

    I cashed last at 5-1. Very little speed. Stabled at Maiden claiming. Cashed at MSW but came from well back late.

    Think this might be a step to high?? , especially at 6F. Interesting that carrying only 114lbs. Not sure why they left in at 25K Optional Claiming?

    To my untrained eye this one looks to be begging for 7-8F at a Minimum.
    Another quality effort. Begging for longer. Peg this one!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    Another quality effort. Begging for longer. Peg this one!!
    You called it correct. $11.20 to show, I got $5.20 to place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    You called it correct. $11.20 to show, I got $5.20 to place.
    WOW, did you notice the TRI and Super payouts. I'm not sharp enough to play exotics, but wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    WOW, did you notice the TRI and Super payouts. I'm not sharp enough to play exotics, but wow.
    I Should have played ALL/10/7 tri. .50 tri almost $1000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    I Should have played ALL/10/7 tri. .50 tri almost $1000.
    No short of what if's. In my younger/braver days I might have hit the .10 super. To old now but extrapolate your TRI play and $4800 super for .10?

    Maybe 10,x,7,x. 10,x,x,7. x,10,7,x , etc . Always easier in hindsight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    No short of what if's. In my younger/braver days I might have hit the .10 super. To old now but extrapolate your TRI play and $4800 super for .10?

    Maybe 10,x,7,x. 10,x,x,7. x,10,7,x , etc . Always easier in hindsight.
    Ah, the glory days of youth. I had a buddy use to play his top 2 ponies, 1-2-All tribox. I'm not even sure how many combos that even is at this moment. He used to hit huge tri's. Being retired, have to limit the amount I bet everyday; back to basics WP and occasional EXBX. .10 supers are a fun play!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    Ah, the glory days of youth. I had a buddy use to play his top 2 ponies, 1-2-All tribox. I'm not even sure how many combos that even is at this moment. He used to hit huge tri's. Being retired, have to limit the amount I bet everyday; back to basics WP and occasional EXBX. .10 supers are a fun play!
    With you brother. I have 8 or 10 pick 6 etc under my belt but those days are long gone.

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    CD R6 Miss Yearwood

    Negatives/Unknowns ... Kneeland last start at 8.5F. Raced twice at GP 7F. Today track change and a race at night??

    She ran the 3 down with ease in last so don't see a challenge here. The 5 (Breeding) gives me some pause. She came from WELL back (8-10 lengths) at 38-1 to just miss the even money favorite with Chad Brown and Ortiz aboard. Doesn't appear the distance is going to hurt.

    Bottom line, the only thing I see in her way is a dislike for the surface or the 5 turns out to be a monster.

    Looks like a solid play to me. BOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    Negatives/Unknowns ... Kneeland last start at 8.5F. Raced twice at GP 7F. Today track change and a race at night??

    She ran the 3 down with ease in last so don't see a challenge here. The 5 (Breeding) gives me some pause. She came from WELL back (8-10 lengths) at 38-1 to just miss the even money favorite with Chad Brown and Ortiz aboard. Doesn't appear the distance is going to hurt.

    Bottom line, the only thing I see in her way is a dislike for the surface or the 5 turns out to be a monster.

    Looks like a solid play to me. BOL
    Will be my only CD play 2Day. Thanks bro. 7:30 CST// CD R6. #6-39X. $12 is lucky 4me. The Frenchman doesn't hurt either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    Will be my only CD play 2Day. Thanks bro. 7:30 CST// CD R6. #6-39X. $12 is lucky 4me. The Frenchman doesn't hurt either.
    I'm going pretty strong, based on price. I presumed you watched last??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    I'm going pretty strong, based on price. I presumed you watched last??
    No, didn't see last race, but you're a great indicator Madison, everyone one of yours been live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    Negatives/Unknowns ... Kneeland last start at 8.5F. Raced twice at GP 7F. Today track change and a race at night??

    She ran the 3 down with ease in last so don't see a challenge here. The 5 (Breeding) gives me some pause. She came from WELL back (8-10 lengths) at 38-1 to just miss the even money favorite with Chad Brown and Ortiz aboard. Doesn't appear the distance is going to hurt.

    Bottom line, the only thing I see in her way is a dislike for the surface or the 5 turns out to be a monster.

    Looks like a solid play to me. BOL
    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    No, didn't see the last race, but you're a great indicator Madison, everyone one of yours has been live.
    Another Solid Selection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    No, didn't see last race, but you're a great indicator Madison, everyone one of yours been live.
    Well, this was like she was out for a morning stroll. I don't believe the jockey hit her or even sat down on her.

    Do yourself a favor and catch the replay of the Keeneland 8.5F race. Somewhere circa 6 or 7F in the jock sits down on her and asks her to go. She put on a burst like you don't often see.

    Price sux'd. I gave her out early to the board here and 3 of my friends so that probably didn't help. Bottom line here was all any novice had to do was watch her last.

    On to the next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    Well, this was like she was out for a morning stroll. I don't believe the jockey hit her or even sat down on her.

    Do yourself a favor and catch the replay of the Keeneland 8.5F race. Somewhere circa 6 or 7F in the jock sits down on her and asks her to go. She put on a burst like you don't often see.

    Price sux'd. I gave her out early to the board here and 3 of my friends so that probably didn't help. Bottom line here was all any novice had to do was watch her last.

    On to the next.
    I was all over this place yesterday and drinking a little, will watch the replay in a bit. While the price sux'd, I don't have a problem betting EVEN in sports. On to the next Monster Madison and thanks again my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    I was all over this place yesterday and drinking a little, will watch the replay in a bit. While the price sux'd, I don't have a problem betting EVEN in sports. On to the next Monster Madison and thanks again my friend.
    Agreed with the ease she won with. From 10 back to 10 length winner. Looks like she can run forever. I don't think they understood how much they had Kee 8.5F.

    Still have a couple others I'm anxious to see come back. Glad you made a few $$. I did pretty well as I went way above my normal $$ but even with that was muted by the odds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    Agreed with the ease she won with. From 10 back to 10 length winner. Looks like she can run forever. I don't think they understood how much they had Kee 8.5F.

    Still have a couple others I'm anxious to see come back. Glad you made a few $$. I did pretty well as I went way above my normal $$ but even with that was muted by the odds.
    I'm with you, it's one thing to lose on "maybe" at 10-1, but losing on an EVEN $ hurts much much more. I Didn't play this, but a good example would be like LAD -340 yesterday, crazy loss. BOL bro, your horses can really GO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOA12 View Post
    I'm with you, it's one thing to lose on "maybe" at 10-1, but losing on an EVEN $ hurts much much more. I Didn't play this, but a good example would be like LAD -340 yesterday, crazy loss. BOL bro, your horses can really GO.
    Yeah, check out R1 from Laurel. 7 was 6/5 and someone decided to make her/him 3/5 very late. Nipped for show, well back, but some people just have too much $$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison View Post
    Yeah, check out R1 from Laurel. 7 was 6/5 and someone decided to make her/him 3/5 very late. Nipped for show, well back, but some people just have too much $$.
    I often have horses at 4 or 5 to one ML that I bet early, and end up the favorite. And they seldom win at these low odds, like a stiff job. Like the trainer doesn't want to win this trip, looking to the next out for "better" odds. Those trainers can be a wily bunch.

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