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    #1 macadamia (15-1) 3WP

    homebred fts with a 6 figure euro sire I've never heard of..rail excellent in sprints

    #8 hype house (12-1)2W



    R11 #2 baj (8-1) 3WP


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    R9 #5 elevado (5-2) 3WP

    sar/dmr quality field here..nice balance with this one..above avg debut sire,exp for specs and trainer who offers excellent value with debuters..solid work pattern

    believe there was a big price firster either today or yesterday by same sire at kentucky downs
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    R1 #4 candy kick (10-1) 3WP

    R6 #2 dowagaic chief (9-2) 4WP

    nice route foundation (multiple races)under him for the cutback ..cost a decent amount for the pedigree..saez/amoss





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    R6 #8 barstow (3-1) 6W

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    know I have a lot of catching up to do grading/tallying


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    R3 #2 amarillo (8-1) 3WP

    homebred fts by runhappy out of an extremely productive dam..steady works at fair hill training center going back to june so should be plenty legged up

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    indiana

    R6 #8 barstow (3-1) 6W
    think he wants longer. he was hustled out of gate but still last. looks to me he will be a route front runner

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    think he wants longer. he was hustled out of gate but still last. looks to me he will be a route front runner
    possibly..would of liked to see him more midpack for that though..maybe they'll throw some blinkers on him

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    cd r5 #10 sutherland (12-1) 3WP

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    R7 #10 indy lead (12-1) 2WP
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    #2 kant believe it (6-1) 3WP

    name I like for a 2yo fts..seriously pedigree specs and trainer stats are excellent

    #5 southern miss (12-1) 2W




    belmont


    R4 #10 old school (4-1) 4WP


    full of expensive well bred horses but a homebred fts by frankel out of a monteju mare is something that's better than any us pedigree..you don't see these type of bloodlines for a debuter here that often


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    WOW Race 4 Belmont. Rough run race from start BUT WOW. I had the 3 Gal in a Rush heavy in Muti and WPS. Unreall won the head bob by a whisker for second and gets moved up to win becaue the easy winner caused the 7 to lose second. If the 7 is second they never take winner down. Thats the luckiest Ive been in a long time BTW Chad Brown the #4 thats even more incredicle they take Chad down

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    WOW Race 4 Belmont. Rough run race from start BUT WOW. I had the 3 Gal in a Rush heavy in Muti and WPS. Unreall won the head bob by a whisker for second and gets moved up to win becaue the easy winner caused the 7 to lose second. If the 7 is second they never take winner down. Thats the luckiest Ive been in a long time BTW Chad Brown the #4 thats even more incredicle they take Chad down
    yeah that's amazingly good luck..congrats

    find in general they're a little more lenient with 2yo msw's but he really came into the 7 hard..but you're right with it's a chad brown fts who wins easy and big..figure that would hold some weight in this situation. not a horrible scenario as they win $18k for 2nd and will probably take down the winner's share next out..now that I've jinxed her I will be taking a shot against next start lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    yeah that's amazingly good luck..congrats

    find in general they're a little more lenient with 2yo msw's but he really came into the 7 hard..but you're right with it's a chad brown fts who wins easy and big..figure that would hold some weight in this situation. not a horrible scenario as they win $18k for 2nd and will probably take down the winner's share next out..now that I've jinxed her I will be taking a shot against next start lol
    with it being so late in the 2 year old season i have been seeing lots of dead on the board win. You would think the morning guys would have a better clue by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    with it being so late in the 2 year old season i have been seeing lots of dead on the board win. You would think the morning guys would have a better clue by now.
    I think it's just very hard to do..they probably have a good idea by connections and pedigree info (or if they've run already)what it should be and then you get some in the supposedly "in the know" money..but of course that's no guarantee and then you get chad or todd at a big price on occasion like yesterday

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    belmont

    hopefully remains on the turf as there was rain last night


    R1 #6 skylander (6-1) 3WP

    the 3 big pedigrees in this race are all homebreds and a 4th from shug is a 2nd time starter..trying to beat todd (#7 @ 3-1 one of them)..best combo trainer stats and pedigree imo..mott occasionally will surprise with a firster which is no surprise with the stock that he gets


    belmont


    R5 #1 kant hurry love (9-2) 3WP


    R6 #4 tout ensemble (4-1) 4WP

    caught mud first out and was off slow in debut..expensive for the specs,chad brown and see improvement..solid field
    with some big pedigree horses



    laurel


    R7 #4 rookieoftheyear (6-1) 3WP




    churchill



    R4 #2 legendary lore (10-1) 3WP


    R5 #5 seal beach (9-2) 3WP





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    going to put this all together in the next few days (grade and tally)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    added churchill 5
    Nice hit. Huge overlay. I'm a big fan of Morey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellymancan View Post
    Nice hit. Huge overlay. I'm a big fan of Morey.
    thanks jelly

    public sees that unimpressive debut at elp and dismiss him.. maybe part of it was due to slow pace but I figure a good run around the track for experience.. prestige aside a lot nicer to win at cd for $127k vs ellis at $51k .. then the fact he's an expensive horse and also would say exp for the pedigree but not overwhelming like others I've seen..you're right about morey as he has some of the best numbers I've seen with maidens ,2yo's and 2nd time out horses over a sizeable sample

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    SKYLERVILLE Race 6 Woodbine
    thoughts on this 2 year old? looks to me as a stand out off first race route duel and fade. the race came back very strong now shortens up and shows up in Toronto for a huge purse maiden race. Love the connections top jock kills price even more first time lasix too. probably goes off 7/5 or so maybe the 6 helps price a bit as he was in stakes race ran 3rd last out and the 3 w Casse training always get some action

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    SKYLERVILLE Race 6 Woodbine
    thoughts on this 2 year old? looks to me as a stand out off first race route duel and fade. the race came back very strong now shortens up and shows up in Toronto for a huge purse maiden race. Love the connections top jock kills price even more first time lasix too. probably goes off 7/5 or so maybe the 6 helps price a bit as he was in stakes race ran 3rd last out and the 3 w Casse training always get some action
    a stickout and I'd say you're right with the odds..remember this one from saratoga and might have even picked her (could check that) ..very exp/specs which I always emphasize and thomas is a fantastic trainer..cutback to 7f is perfect as you said and they gave the pace as fast with the brisnet figs..works following the race were sharp

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    a stickout and I'd say you're right with the odds..remember this one from saratoga and might have even picked her (could check that) ..very exp/specs which I always emphasize and thomas is a fantastic trainer..cutback to 7f is perfect as you said and they gave the pace as fast with the brisnet figs..works following the race were sharp
    Ty...Basically a 2 year old stake race here minus the NY or Kentucky quality...how they can offer purses like this i cant figure..its higher then Kentucky downs even...nuts...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    saratoga

    R2 #5 skylerville (5-1) 4WP

    both mine and the 3 are fts and not only expensive but expensive relative to the pedigree and they are not borderline cases.. 3 mega expensive.. trainer info on both very similar. going with the cheaper.. johnny v who won the saratoga derby yesterday is riding.. also mine has a quick work on the grass at the saratoga training track



    R6 #9 li li bear (9-2) 4WP

    normally only like to go firster in these types..like the slow fade line exiting a very fast race that was over this track.. dam sire "indian charlie" one of the better (if not the best) win early, class and speed influences there is

    I did

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    Ty...Basically a 2 year old stake race here minus the NY or Kentucky quality...how they can offer purses like this i cant figure..its higher then Kentucky downs even...nuts...
    " (includes $31,000 State Bred includes
    $23,800 Other Sources plus $16,825 Other Sources) "

    $40k in other sources (whatever that is) plus I guess you get more if you're an ontario bred

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    belmont

    R6 #4 i'm over u (12-1) 3WP

    churchill

    R8 #5 out dancing (7-2) 3WP


    monmouth

    R1 #4 running bee (5-1) 2WP

    half hour to post so going minimum..haven't seen odds





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    SKYLERVILLE perfect trip winner right off the speed and stuborn one at that 40-1 first timer game. Proved best bet down to 4/5 got him in exchange @ 2.4.
    Too much class I'll take it

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    SKYLERVILLE perfect trip winner right off the speed and stuborn one at that 40-1 first timer game. Proved best bet down to 4/5 got him in exchange @ 2.4.
    Too much class I'll take it
    so when were you able to get him @ 2.4..about 5 mtp ??

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    R7 #8 cast iron alex (30-1) 2WP

    think it might be sloppy by then in which case it's no play

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    R5 #7 wildstarinthesky (10-1) 3WP

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