1. 05-16-19 02:46 PM #36
    jjgold
    jjgold's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 388,190
    Betpoints: 10

    They will pay 1/4
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  2. 05-16-19 02:50 PM #37
    RudyRuetigger
    Leave of absence until March Madness
    RudyRuetigger's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-24-10
    Posts: 64,799
    Betpoints: 53

    what did his printed ticket say the payout would be?
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  3. 05-16-19 02:57 PM #38
    milwaukee mike
    milwaukee mike's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 08-22-07
    Posts: 26,906
    Betpoints: 7585

    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    what did his printed ticket say the payout would be?
    horse racing tickets don't show payouts
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  4. 05-16-19 03:39 PM #39
    chalkman777
    chalkman777's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-01-15
    Posts: 96
    Betpoints: 3177

    people keep supporting WH . not sure why . so many options out there these days . i live in pa . i use a local,casino and off shore .
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  5. 05-16-19 03:56 PM #40
    RudyRuetigger
    Leave of absence until March Madness
    RudyRuetigger's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-24-10
    Posts: 64,799
    Betpoints: 53

    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    horse racing tickets don't show payouts
    oh because odds change up until start and then stuck with the odds?


    that fukkin blows
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  6. 05-16-19 04:04 PM #41
    thomorino
    thomorino's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 06-01-17
    Posts: 45,842
    Betpoints: 1

    From a legal perspective he has no case.

    There are 2 standards for signs being adequate - procedural and substantive standards. Did the sign give adequate notice and was the notice stated in such a way that a reasonable person should have seen it. The Signs were clearly up in the casino, they weren't hidden in small writing. I think William Hill should compromise and pay around 2-300k since they did take the bet but legally they owe him nothing.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  7. 05-16-19 04:09 PM #42
    moojoo
    moojoo's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-02-16
    Posts: 938
    Betpoints: 229

    They should have cap payout wrote at ticket.
    If maximum payout is 20k for example then 20k should be written as payout,not 460k.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  8. 05-16-19 04:09 PM #43
    littlekona
    littlekona's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 11-19-15
    Posts: 5,218
    Betpoints: 5828

    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    From a legal perspective he has no case.

    There are 2 standards for signs being adequate - procedural and substantive standards. Did the sign give adequate notice and was the notice stated in such a way that a reasonable person should have seen it. The Signs were clearly up in the casino, they weren't hidden in small writing. I think William Hill should compromise and pay around 2-300k since they did take the bet but legally they owe him nothing.
    They owe him nothing BUT for marketing esp since many states are legalizing it would be a great marketing ploy to pay him something more as coverage would be very valuable for name recognition and branding in usa....
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  9. 05-16-19 04:12 PM #44
    pavyracer
    MOLON LABE
    pavyracer's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-12-07
    Posts: 82,189
    Betpoints: 410

    If the odds are too good to be true always check the fineprint for the payout.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  10. 05-16-19 04:39 PM #45
    jameski999
    jameski999's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-17-11
    Posts: 1,540
    Betpoints: 4260

    He Should have bet 20-$2 trifecta tickets instead of 1-$40 ticket
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  11. 05-16-19 05:09 PM #46
    acquavallo
    acquavallo's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 03-16-18
    Posts: 349
    Betpoints: 8486

    This is a such a non story. Forever, over a century, "non parimutuel" racebooks have operated exactly as WH(yes, world's worst mega book) in this case-with caps and limits. Always. Anyone disputing this is a total horse noob. No insult meant, but this is Saloon fodder. In fact, sharp bettors know which books have the highest limits before electing where to bet. And also because limits vary by racetrack. Nevada allowed books to choose if they wanted to go parimutuel in the '90s, not all have.

    The player&lawyer know WH have deep pockets and don't want negative publicity... So hoping for a gift.
    This will never go to trial because no Gaming Commission or judge in Nevada would grant relief. Hence no lawyer would go to trial on contingency basis. Client would be expected to front all costs and fees, and lawyer would need to be very hungry \ not too bright \ have lots of disposable time.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  12. 05-16-19 06:18 PM #47
    Goat Milk
    Goat Milk's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 03-24-10
    Posts: 25,838
    Betpoints: 10176

    William Hill is rated as an A+ on SBR....

    If I got stiffed out of 600k, I don't know what I'd do.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  13. 05-16-19 06:41 PM #48
    unusialsusp5
    unusialsusp5's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-18-10
    Posts: 4,184
    Betpoints: 3601

    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    William Hill is rated as an A+ on SBR....

    If I got stiffed out of 600k, I don't know what I'd do.
    they didn't stiff him. the rules are clearly stated and posted.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  14. 05-16-19 06:44 PM #49
    unusialsusp5
    unusialsusp5's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-18-10
    Posts: 4,184
    Betpoints: 3601

    Quote Originally Posted by jameski999 View Post
    He Should have bet 20-$2 trifecta tickets instead of 1-$40 ticket
    it wouldn't have mattered. their limit on trifectas is 500-1
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  15. 05-16-19 06:46 PM #50
    LT Profits
    LT Profits's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-27-06
    Posts: 90,963
    Betpoints: 5179

    Quote Originally Posted by moojoo View Post
    They should have cap payout wrote at ticket.
    If maximum payout is 20k for example then 20k should be written as payout,not 460k.
    There is no dollar cap, there is an odds cap. And there is no payout written on ticket for horse wagers (other than fixed futures) because payout is unknown,
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  16. 05-20-19 03:41 AM #51
    icon
    icon's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-09-18
    Posts: 3,372
    Betpoints: 6518

    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    those payout caps are on the BACK of a card, which makes this an interesting story... is that "posted clearly" or isn't it? it sure is posted clearly that they aren't in the pari-mutuel pools but is that good enough? we will find out within 45 days
    Whats really interesting is the guy who made the bets is an opthamologist that didn't read the fine print, LOL.

    He couldn't read the sign?

    He should have contacted ATC who could have given him a $695.00 eye exam and then sell him a pair of $800 glasses that you can get at Walmart for $14.95.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
  17. 05-06-20 02:35 AM #52
    209 Life
    Off to BMR. Deuces
    209 Life's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-15-18
    Posts: 3,146
    Betpoints: 6750

    Update: Gaming Control Board rules in favor of William Hill

    Starts at 8:30

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote
First 12
Top
« Previous Thread | Players Talk | Next Thread »