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    hong kong racing

    going to try this again...will grade




    (odds up to last 4 races) many times odds so high it's good to know going in

    ie (10,8,12,7) 10 most recent odds

    99= triple digit odds





    sha tin



    R1 #13 loriz (36,19)
    R3 #4 meridian genius (3.8/2.5/10)
    R4 #11 coolceleb (21,58,99,46)
    R5 #10 care free prince (8,10,17,10)
    R7 #6 fortune booth (15,14,18,4.4)
    R9 #7 flying bonus (99,18,27,10)
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    Love Hong Kong....outrageous the handle one aveage day is more the huge USA days like Kentucky Derby.....Looselines/jazz offer it too besides USA adw

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    Love Hong Kong....outrageous the handle one aveage day is more the huge USA days like Kentucky Derby.....Looselines/jazz offer it too besides USA adw


    yeah it's a great product and the free pp's they give you on their site are solid.. much more than I use to be honest.. it seems unless I'm mistaken a lot of the other big venues around (europe, japan,australia) the world don't do points of call position and lengths behind...can't understand that for the life of me.. I'd be looking at these tracks if they had them

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    yeah it's a great product and the free pp's they give you on their site are solid.. much more than I use to be honest.. it seems unless I'm mistaken a lot of the other big venues around (europe, japan,australia) the world don't do points of call position and lengths behind...can't understand that for the life of me.. I'd be looking at these tracks if they had them
    yea that;s my biggest issue with UK too hard to find fractional times and have to spend a lot more time watching replays....the equibase free PP's are better then the free ones xpressbet and TVG gives

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    sha tin



    R1 #13 loriz (36,19)
    R3 #4 meridian genius (3.8/2.5/10)
    R4 #11 coolceleb (21,58,99,46)
    R5 #10 care free prince (8,10,17,10)
    R7 #6 fortune booth (15,14,18,4.4)
    R9 #7 flying bonus (99,18,27,10)



    RECAP


    3rd gets you place money
    (odds)


    R1 (9.8) 4th missed 3rd (96)* by a nose..

    R3 (2.3) 2nd by a nose

    R4 (74) 11th

    R5 (56) last

    R7 (25) 4th half length off 2nd and
    3rd..1.25 lengths from winner

    R9 (81) 11th


    *3rd place horse was 96-1
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    will be looking at weds card..they'll be racing at happy valley this time and post will be 7:15 am est


    btw if anybody is familiar with this circuit feel free to post picks,tips or anything relevant...like to learn what I can..there website is terrific... hkjc.com
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    JBEX, Good luck to you. Always wanted to try my hand at the Hong Kong races but never did.

    I will be following.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayTris07 View Post
    JBEX, Good luck to you. Always wanted to try my hand at the Hong Kong races but never did.

    I will be following.


    thanks jay tris.. definitely check out the website..as I said free pp's and you'll get used to them fast with a little practice.. one key thing to know is the lowest line in the pp's is the most recent...they use 17/3/19 as the date format..there's still lots I don't know but think for what I do I know enough.. any questions just ask and if you want to make a pick or two feel free to post it here if you want to


    hkjc. com


    english version lol
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    the thing that is so refreshing is the transparency of the stewards...They take cheating very serious. I remember few years back David Flores went out there and was suspended for not riding out his mount. I think it finished 5th or worse after a bad start. You have to try cant ease up unless horse is in distress. Plus all vet reports are made public...They have the best information for free there

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    the thing that is so refreshing is the transparency of the stewards...They take cheating very serious. I remember few years back David Flores went out there and was suspended for not riding out his mount. I think it finished 5th or worse after a bad start. You have to try cant ease up unless horse is in distress. Plus all vet reports are made public...They have the best information for free there

    everything seems very above board there and they run a tight ship.... part of reason they get $17M us $ bet on a typical race ..had a friend who used to travel there on business.. he said if I remember correctly that they have multiple publications covering the races.. it's like the national past time for them

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    Man, Happy Valley and Sha Tin are beautiful race tracks surrounded by the Hong Kong Skyline. Do we even have anything that comes close to these two tracks in North America? Visually stunning. On my bucket list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayTris07 View Post
    Man, Happy Valley and Sha Tin are beautiful race tracks surrounded by the Hong Kong Skyline. Do we even have anything that comes close to these two tracks in North America? Visually stunning. On my bucket list.

    backdrop is impressive and can't think of anything similar here..the wide turn(s), extra long stretch and big fields makes for exciting races..then you realize there's more bet on a single race there than a whole card at saratoga.. really amazing

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    happy valley 7:15 am wednesday


    last 4 odds.. left most recent

    R1 #11 lucky storm (6.7/5.1/8.2/7.9)
    R2 #3 this one's for you (36/99/99) *
    R3 #2 insayshable (16/7.2/7.3/7.8)
    R4 #5 hinyuen swiftness (7.3/24/7.8/8.9)
    R5 #1 thou shall sing (29/6.4/6.7/4.9)
    R5 #11 super euro star (30/25/33/9.6)

    2 horses R5

    R6 #7 dream come true (50/6.6/99/62)


    *4th career start



    R7 #2 telecom puma (40)**
    R8 #10 penang hall (11,99,26,99)


    ** 2nd start
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    Makes me so happy to see people bet Sha Tin and Happy Valley! That's our go to when the Aussie races are done in the afternoon but we still feel like betting. I feel like such a degen after already betting 7 hours of races that day but I love it

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    been a while but have done usa day, night and then hong kong or just the latter two.. lack the stamina now.. at least it's just a long day for you and not an overnighter

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    finished hv

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    happy valley 7:15 am wednesday


    last 4 odds.. left most recent

    R1 #11 lucky storm (6.7/5.1/8.2/7.9)
    R2 #3 this one's for you (36/99/99) *
    R3 #2 insayshable (16/7.2/7.3/7.8)
    R4 #5 hinyuen swiftness (7.3/24/7.8/8.9)
    R5 #1 thou shall sing (29/6.4/6.7/4.9)
    R5 #11 super euro star (30/25/33/9.6)

    2 horses R5

    R6 #7 dream come true (50/6.6/99/62)


    *4th career start



    R7 #2 telecom puma (40)**
    R8 #10 penang hall (11,99,26,99)


    ** 2nd start

    3rd splits place money

    (odds)

    R1...3rd $(3.3)
    R2...7th (20)
    R3 ...3rd $ (6.6)
    R4 ...9th (5.3)
    R5 ...11th (22)
    R5 .. 2nd $(28)
    R6.. 2nd by head $(14)
    R7...4th < 1 length from winner (12)
    R8...WINNER (7.5) $$ 17

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    been a while but have done usa day, night and then hong kong or just the latter two.. lack the stamina now.. at least it's just a long day for you and not an overnighter
    Haha very true!! The problem is those tracks are so enticing. But seriously after a full day of getting flogged on the Aussie races and then 80% of the time copping an arse whooping at Sha Tin and Happy Valley I'd rather stay up all night instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by shari91 View Post
    Haha very true!! The problem is those tracks are so enticing. But seriously after a full day of getting flogged on the Aussie races and then 80% of the time copping an arse whooping at Sha Tin and Happy Valley I'd rather stay up all night instead
    on a serious note it seems that unlike hong kong and the states the aussie pp's have no point's of call with positions and lengths behind throughout the race.. is that true and are aussie pp's available on the web for free? know tvg has them but wondering if ones directly from the track are better ?

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    sha tin... 1st post 12:45am

    (xx, xx, xx, xx) odds last 4.. left most recent

    R1 #2 the sylph (6.7/35/99/23)
    R3 #8 nashashuk (4.7/19/28/4)
    R4 #10 fortune happiness (44/51/xx/xx)
    R5 #7 iron bravo (61/24/xx/xx)
    R6 #6 eagle (8.7/37/11/3.4)
    R7 #5 winning faith (17/xx/8.6/7.5)
    R8 #6 smart leader (11/6.9/3.3/24)
    R9 #12 ultimate glory (10/40/37/21)
    R10 #12 kiram (38/30/17/61)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    sha tin... 1st post 12:45am

    (xx, xx, xx, xx) odds last 4.. left most recent

    R1 #2 the sylph (6.7/35/99/23)
    R3 #8 nashashuk (4.7/19/28/4)
    R4 #10 fortune happiness (44/51/xx/xx)
    R5 #7 iron bravo (61/24/xx/xx)
    R6 #6 eagle (8.7/37/11/3.4)
    R7 #5 winning faith (17/xx/8.6/7.5)
    R8 #6 smart leader (11/6.9/3.3/24)
    R9 #12 ultimate glory (10/40/37/21)
    R10 #12 kiram (38/30/17/61)

    (odds)
    avg field size around 12
    top 3 share place money


    R1 3rd (41) 1 1/4 lengths off winner
    R3 10th (24)
    R4 4th (42) 99-1 3rd
    R5 12th (106) yes that's 106-1 lol
    R6 6th (13) 4.5 lengths off winner
    R7 5th (38) < 1 length from winner
    R8 3rd (2.8)
    R9 3rd (9)
    R10 4th (9) 1.5 lengths from winner/neck 4th

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    This horse is my fav Hong Kong based horse Pakistan star...he’s big head case too had full head gear for many races fter this maiden win...https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VlI7NcPv1Hs
    And few others a huge win and then he stopped in race
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=07JSWI82fIY
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-Sha-Tin.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    This horse is my fav Hong Kong based horse Pakistan star...he’s big head case too had full head gear for many races fter this maiden win...https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VlI7NcPv1Hs
    And few others a huge win and then he stopped in race
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=07JSWI82fIY
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-Sha-Tin.html


    impressive races and I've never seen a horse refuse to run as far back as I can remember.. looks like he's tailed of quite a bit this year
    though.. nice to have the links for people to ge a glimpse of the product

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    happy valley 7:15am

    (last 4 odds).. subtract 1 to get actual odds as these are payout numbers


    R1 #9 chaparral star (39/9.7/30/7.7)
    R1 #10 spinning dancer (25/22/48/28)

    2 horses.. not a mistake

    R2 #7 royal racer (20/7.3/99*/63)

    *2nd by a head at triple digits 3 back ..it's possible


    R3 #8 this is class (28/12/79/25)

    R4 pass


    R5 #1 giant turtle (29/11/11/10)

    R6 #4 joyful union (16/5.9/xx/xx)

    R7 pass

    R8 #11 last kingdom (7.6/9.4/8.1/5.5)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    impressive races and I've never seen a horse refuse to run as far back as I can remember.. looks like he's tailed of quite a bit this year
    though.. nice to have the links for people to ge a glimpse of the product
    he's in a new barn w. hood off I hear...Will be in trials soon

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    I don't even know what trials are lol..I find I can work with the pp's and I guess there's some kind of path the horses must take if they've raced overseas before which all of them have..you know a lot more about this than me

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post

    R1 #9 chaparral star (39/9.7/30/7.7)
    sharp, thanks bud

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    Quote Originally Posted by xbalto View Post
    sharp, thanks bud

    np... would've been nicer on it's own but the other was 39 while he was 3.9

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    happy valley 7:15am

    (last 4 odds).. subtract 1 to get actual odds as these are payout numbers


    R1 #9 chaparral star (39/9.7/30/7.7)
    R1 #10 spinning dancer (25/22/48/28)

    2 horses.. not a mistake

    R2 #7 royal racer (20/7.3/99*/63)

    *2nd by a head at triple digits 3 back ..it's possible


    R3 #8 this is class (28/12/79/25)

    R4 pass


    R5 #1 giant turtle (29/11/11/10)

    R6 #4 joyful union (16/5.9/xx/xx)

    R7 pass

    R8 #11 last kingdom (7.6/9.4/8.1/5.5)
    (odds)
    (subtract 1 for actual odds)
    top 3 split place money

    winners in us dollars for $2 bet

    R1#9 WINNER $$7.80
    R1 #10 LAST (39)
    R2 WINNER $$19.60
    R3 WINNER $$24.00
    R4 PASS
    R5.. 9th (16)
    R6 WINNER $$8.40
    R7 PASS
    R8 .. 2nd by a head (10)

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    sha tin.. 12:45 am


    (odds last 4) 1st most recent
    payout odds below

    R1 #11 jimson the dragon (19/28/7.4/41)
    R2 #5 royal prerogative (9.2/6.9/3.9/8.3)
    R3 #5 hasta luego (1.9/2nd start)
    R4 #11 shining ace (33/28/3.8/xx)
    R5 #9 high rev (9.2/10.0/3.1/5.4)


    R6 #1 cheeky bee (52/44/99/99)
    R7 #9 cao cao (20/83/95)
    R8 #14 sleep education (39/82/21/13)
    R9 #8 regency bo bo (14/6.9/16/12)
    R9 #9 gold win (99/97/99/99)
    R10 #13 ever laugh (13/8.4/10/6.4)
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    finished

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    sha tin.. wednesday 7:15am est

    (payout odds last 4 races) left most recent

    99 odds = over 100-1.. horses often go off 150/200-1 or higher there

    R1 #3 lotus breeze (65/94/43/16)
    R2 #3 travel successor (29/59/xx/xx)
    R2 #7 run moochi (4.9/32/16/99)
    R3 pass
    R4 #7 let's come back (24/36/91/14)




    R5 #1 travel first (79/47/99/81)
    R6 pass
    R7 pass
    R8 # 8 dragon commander (99/99/99)


    erwmbp
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    finished sha tin

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    sha tin.. gonna skip previous odds tonight

    R2 #11 fortune happiness
    R7 #8 mission tycoon
    R8 #3 styling city
    R10 #3 magnificent
    Last edited by JBEX; 04-07-19 at 12:11 AM.

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    happy valley 7:15am wednesday

    not gonna bother with previous odds anymore.. odds can change radically (understatement) with a solid effort or vice versa and feel it's not important


    R1 #8 double double
    R3 #7 shinealot
    R5 #2 joyful heart
    R6 #6 garlic yeah
    R8 #5 top laurels

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