[goduke]

Duke you've been riding my sack since i got here.

Correct you admitted to having another account. I’m letting people know. Transparency. Maybe just come out and say what ghost account this is and I’ll let it be

[SilverSpoon111]

Correct you admitted to having another account. I’m letting people know. Transparency. Maybe just come out and say what ghost account this is and I’ll let it be

How old are you im being serious? You worry this much on a "ghost" accounts is to funny i mean it's actually pathetic how about post something useful you been here since 2010 and your not even pro what are you captain save a ghost? get laid smoke a joint do something useful.

[2daBank]

How old are you im being serious? You worry this much on a "ghost" accounts is to funny i mean it's actually pathetic how about post something useful you been here since 2010 and your not even pro what are you captain save a ghost? get laid smoke a joint do something useful.

There is merit to this question tho, thus far I’ve liked you and think you a far more solid contributor or potentially anyways than half the worthless posters round here.

That said imo there nothing worse than guys who continually start new handles in a attempt to cover up anything from being douche bags previously or more common especially around football season you get all the clowns who dream of being touts starting yet another handle in a attempt to get hot and scam some desperate idiots.

I’d say we get at least a couple dozen retreads a year boasting about their “skills” at betting the nfl and it just some dickhead that has said same thing last 3 years with different handles and failed miserably. These losers playing the odds that eventually they will have a good season (or half season) and can flip that into the more desperate types signing up for their “service”.

Certainly not saying this is you but this is why the question needs to be asked and anytime a guy comes around who “new” we gonna be skeptical. Hopefully you understand and are not one of those. Far as I’m concerned if you say you not I’ll give you benefit of the doubt until signs of a wanna be tout start surfacing.

[str]

WE need STR"s opinion to settle the matter. STR check in. Replay is in the thread.

From what I see at the 1:25 mark Easy, the rider on the 6 DID move the bit towards the back of the sixes mouth momentarily before riding aggressively around the turn to no avail. But every rider in view did the same thing as well they should have. These are cheap green babies going into a turn running 33 MPH and you can't trust them as far as you can throw them. Any rider that wouldn't take a slight hold on one of those babies going into that turn going 5 1/2 is crazy and not long for the stirrups they are in. IMO, I did not categorize any of that as pulling back.

Without the head on view which I feel is key , I can't fully expound. But what was clear was the only horse that was well taught was Kathy's horse, the winner. The front three horses were all a mess in their own ways. I can elaborate if anyone wants me to ( just let me know) but it is mostly racing blah, blah, blah... Not many care. They just want a winner, or a car ride if you are JJ leaving Penn. Nat.(Nice video).

I don't get the didn't like the price angle. I totally understand the bettors logic in this and in every race they see. Their sole reason for being there is to cash a ticket. They are single minded in that regard as I was prior to my time working there. I completely respect that. But I saw no actions by the rider that would lead me to that conclusion. That is just my opinion.

When you work at the track everyday and are running a business, especially one that has THAT much detail involved, everything that a bettor sees happen is not all about cashing a ticket. On the contrary, virtually nothing is.

As I have said in my thread, plenty of betting opportunities arise without ever trying to create one if someone so desires. Yes, you have your handful of people that try and manipulate a horse's form or whatever. But as I have also said, I would have loved to have had my own betting window for those same handful of people that are trying to cash tickets because they have inside info. The backstretch is notorious for bad gamblers. (I could not believe it either.)
The failure rate is high. The ROI over time is minus. It really didn't matter who it was. That is what I witnessed in my time there.

No disrespect to the poster trying to share winners. Good luck, but be careful would be my advise.

As for the topic of what could have happened to the 6 horse to drop back that way? Empire Maker ( What a GREAT horse), nailed it. Post 98 is worth a reread. He is spot on.

LT was probably right IMO as well.

As for the bettors viewpoint there is nothing that I could add to 2DaBank's several posts. No way I could have said it any better. His posts are also a worthwhile reread.

That's my opinion.

Hope it helps.

[Easy-Rider 66]

Thx STR for your take. Thought it would be ideal to have a professional speak to the matter at hand about the GP race yesterday.

[jjgold]

Lol horse racing

So many suckers got big money on horses and they don’t even know the jockeys holding it back and it’s not going away and it’s call legal fixing

They rest the horse to get better odds in the future but too many suckers don’t know that

[SilverSpoon111]

From what I see at the 1:25 mark Easy, the rider on the 6 DID move the bit towards the back of the sixes mouth momentarily before riding aggressively around the turn to no avail. But every rider in view did the same thing as well they should have. These are cheap green babies going into a turn running 33 MPH and you can't trust them as far as you can throw them. Any rider that wouldn't take a slight hold on one of those babies going into that turn going 5 1/2 is crazy and not long for the stirrups they are in. IMO, I did not categorize any of that as pulling back.

Without the head on view which I feel is key , I can't fully expound. But what was clear was the only horse that was well taught was Kathy's horse, the winner. The front three horses were all a mess in their own ways. I can elaborate if anyone wants me to ( just let me know) but it is mostly racing blah, blah, blah... Not many care. They just want a winner, or a car ride if you are JJ leaving Penn. Nat.(Nice video).

I don't get the didn't like the price angle. I totally understand the bettors logic in this and in every race they see. Their sole reason for being there is to cash a ticket. They are single minded in that regard as I was prior to my time working there. I completely respect that. But I saw no actions by the rider that would lead me to that conclusion. That is just my opinion.

When you work at the track everyday and are running a business, especially one that has THAT much detail involved, everything that a bettor sees happen is not all about cashing a ticket. On the contrary, virtually nothing is.

As I have said in my thread, plenty of betting opportunities arise without ever trying to create one if someone so desires. Yes, you have your handful of people that try and manipulate a horse's form or whatever. But as I have also said, I would have loved to have had my own betting window for those same handful of people that are trying to cash tickets because they have inside info. The backstretch is notorious for bad gamblers. (I could not believe it either.)
The failure rate is high. The ROI over time is minus. It really didn't matter who it was. That is what I witnessed in my time there.

No disrespect to the poster trying to share winners. Good luck, but be careful would be my advise.

As for the topic of what could have happened to the 6 horse to drop back that way? Empire Maker ( What a GREAT horse), nailed it. Post 98 is worth a reread. He is spot on.

LT was probably right IMO as well.

As for the bettors viewpoint there is nothing that I could add to 2DaBank's several posts. No way I could have said it any better. His posts are also a worthwhile reread.

That's my opinion.

Hope it helps.

That's whats great about about this game i no people call for you and ur respected but i also did this for a living for a little over 2 years so i no what im talking about as well thats what makes this game great and hard at the same time everybody can have there own opinion i can tell people that know horse racing and people who just like to talk shit like the guy who had 4 posts in a year saying 23 and change is to fast for 6 furlongs lol those comments are moronic.

[SilverSpoon111]

And like i said first time starter was 7/1 3 minutes to post dropped down to 2/1 the owner of the horse is also the trainer dont forget that part and people that dont believe if they no they have a horse thats going to run well and it drops down from 7/1 to 2/1 theres no value when you can run that horse back in 2 or 3 weeks and possibly get 10/1+ on a horse you no is sitting ono a big one 99% of the time first time starters get bet from the jump of betting not the last 3 minutes.

[McCracken]

Hey Guys, Sorry about yesterday, Silverspoon is right. My father said the horse quit because next week it will run again and win, so keep that horse in mind.. There are TWO great horses running today..THIS HORSE IS COMING OFF A SHARP EFFORT in the last month !! Im gonna make this short and sweet #4 EL TOCAYO MoneyLine=4/1 Delaware Park - Race #2 - Post: 1:45pm - Claiming , Also Race 9 at SARATOGA the #8 McCracken !!! We Will go 2 for 2 today guys, Again Keep the Faith with these winners.

[SilverSpoon111]

Hey Guys, Sorry about yesterday, Silverspoon is right. My father said the horse quit because next week it will run again and win, so keep that horse in mind.. There are TWO great horses running today..THIS HORSE IS COMING OFF A SHARP EFFORT in the last month !! Im gonna make this short and sweet #4 EL TOCAYO MoneyLine=4/1 Delaware Park - Race #2 - Post: 1:45pm - Claiming , Also Race 9 at SARATOGA the #8 McCracken !!! We Will go 2 for 2 today guys, Again Keep the Faith with these winners.

To many horses to many days i can tell your bullshitting now if you came in 1 time ever 3 or 4 weeks and said a horse and they actually ran well i would maybe believe you this is 3 days straight now nobody in horse racing knows about that many horses lol also why on earth would you crush you value my posting it on all these websites?????????

[jjgold]

lol another tout

when does it end?????

People that bet horses all the time get crushed, its a bad addiction

[Chi_archie]

McCraken seems to be a wealth of info. Some of the Brass here at SBR want me to set him up with a sub forum of his own and develop a little video to share at other sites to plug his picks and info

[SilverSpoon111]

lol another tout

when does it end?????

People that bet horses all the time get crushed, its a bad addiction

98.1% percent of people who bet over the counter or online at the end of the year will lose small small small few who bet once in a while on spot bets or "inside knowledge" win....Most of the sharpest horse racing handicappers in the world are tournament players now that;s why i loved it your going against the best in the world on derbywars and horsetourneys.

[Easy-Rider 66]

98.1% percent of people who bet over the counter or online at the end of the year will lose small small small few who bet once in a while on spot bets or "inside knowledge" win....Most of the sharpest horse racing handicappers in the world are tournament players now that;s why i loved it your going against the best in the world on derbywars and horsetourneys.

[big joe 1212]

And he has tips on horses all over the east coast

[biggie12]

its like the blind leading the blind.

STR...... dont these threads make you laugh and also cry at the same time?

[big joe 1212]

So will McCraken bet McCraken in the Whitney today?

[jjgold]

Biggie broke and he says he wins betting horses 🐎

[biggie12]

Biggie broke and he says he wins betting horses 🐎

is this south asian JJ checking in?? Never claimed to make any money betting horses..... i made approx 43k usd this month how many posts hours posting non sense for that?

[jjgold]

You didn’t make 43,000 you remind me of that other poster big business

[str]

its like the blind leading the blind.

STR...... dont these threads make you laugh and also cry at the same time?

Yes Biggie it really does.

[RudyRuetigger]

Biggie broke and he says he wins betting horses 

biggie went pro after his latest run

GIVE HIM CREDIT THERE

[drpugilist]

You have to take these tips with a grain of salt, don't you ?

yeah of course but I mean if someone posts a play is that how they get treated around here? and the horse won! then it was that the price wasnt good enough...just seems kind of silly

[drpugilist]

That's whats great about about this game i no people call for you and ur respected but i also did this for a living for a little over 2 years so i no what im talking about as well thats what makes this game great and hard at the same time everybody can have there own opinion i can tell people that know horse racing and people who just like to talk shit like the guy who had 4 posts in a year saying 23 and change is to fast for 6 furlongs lol those comments are moronic.

it WAS obviously to fast you dumb penetrate! did either of those two horse even hit the board? goddamn wtf do you not understand about what im trying to say.

[trytrytry]

very funny thread

[RudyRuetigger]

yeah of course but I mean if someone posts a play is that how they get treated around here? and the horse won! then it was that the price wasnt good enough...just seems kind of silly

it WAS obviously to fast you dumb penetrate! did either of those two horse even hit the board? goddamn wtf do you not understand about what im trying to say.

hey crackles

you have been signing in under the wrong account bro

[drpugilist]

hey crackles

you have been signing in under the wrong account bro

have no clue who that is

[drpugilist]

does that mean you think im a ghost of someone?

[Chi_archie]

cause im not the ghost of someone else, just long time reader of the site. now signed up to contribute

[thomorino]

Horse racing is such a sleazy sport, ridiculous that owners can have more than 1 horse in the race.

[biggie12]

biggie went pro after his latest run

GIVE HIM CREDIT THERE

ive been a pro for 4 years
sbr pro means nothing at all i only became pro to do btp i give away my points to the less fortunate miyht have to start giving filipino JJ some he is clueless could use the help

[Philmill]

ive been a pro for 4 years
sbr pro means nothing at all i only became pro to do btp i give away my points to the less fortunate miyht have to start giving filipino JJ some he is clueless could use the help

jj gold winning.... his not talking.... his here for the looser bigs .....

[Jayvegas420]

I need 25 points biggie.....
Operation coming up.

TIA

[biggie12]

I need 25 points biggie.....
Operation coming up.

TIA

negroplasty?