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dmr R8 #4 factorize (9-2)

showed speed vs msw..miller great 2nd career start,mdn clm -msw,with this jock L60 days (10/23)..win early pedigree..cost 67k so not concerned about 62.5k tag..if he's 9/2 or higher I wouldn't play

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saratoga

R1 #2 flash trading (15-1)
R2 #5 scat back (7-2)
R5 #5 southampton way (12-1) will be lower
R9 #9 dynamic war (12-1)

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R10 #5 borg (6-1)

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R4 #4 red lightning (5-1)
R6 #7 secret touch (5-1)
R9 #10 new dancer (4-1)

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R2 #9 broadway nika (5-1)
R4 #3 ruled by girls (6-1)
R5 #8 sapphire kid (7-2)
R6 #6 chewy round town (12-1)


that will do it

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dmr

R1 #5 mis viola (2-1..15 mtp)
R8 #9 alpha uno (30-1)

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R3 #4 butte city (8-1)
R4 #6 deal with it dude (6-1) omg a $16 winner.. thought it'd never happen again
R6 #4 vegastruck (7-2)
R7 #5 show it n moe it (4-1) another $12 winner on same card. .geez !!

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del mar

R4 #3 special story (7-2) 2 units
R5 #6 summer's burst (3-1) 2 units

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R6 #5 invasion looming (4-1)
R8 #4 norwegian spy (7-2)

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R3 #8 my princess taylor (6-1)

R7 #7 masco yodeler (6-1)

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R6 #6 lemon crush (20-1)

bred,owned and trained by the same lady..she hasn't started a horse this year but has trainer stats (guess from last year )have her 4/20 msw-mcl..by new sire richard's kid
out of a winning dam who has 2 winners from as many starters and both won as 2yo's which is a big plus..one blazing work 1/76 three races back but all others quite
tepid..kind of says to me she has the speed when needed and they just want to get her in condition

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R6 #6 lemon crush (20-1)

bred,owned and trained by the same lady..she hasn't started a horse this year but has trainer stats (guess from last year )have her 4/20 msw-mcl..by new sire richard's kid out of a winning dam who has 2 winners from as many starters and both won as 2yo's which is a big plus..one blazing work 1/76 three races back but all others quite
tepid..kind of says to me she has the speed when needed and they just want to get her in condition

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I have been using brisnet pp's for well over a year now whereas before was using drf for close to 30 years.. have picked some decent ones along the way this past year in spite of current cold streak.. truth of the matter is on scale there are frequent (understatement)
huge differences between the two.. can't have that and trust the beyers more.. switching back to drf and only doing ny from here on out (except for special days at other tracks).. more expensive product so probably cut back my playing a bit

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saratoga

R5 #6 la contessa (5-1)

i know I said I wouldn't pick pletcher 1st time out 2yo's but a couple of differences here.. one is this is a turf race and he's known for dirt with these types.. two, is my costs a bunch for the pedigree angle (200k)...1st starter from a dam who only placed in her career from a 35k stallion

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saratoga

R5 #6 la contessa (5-1)

i know I said I wouldn't pick pletcher 1st time out 2yo's but a couple of differences here.. one is this is a turf race and he's known for dirt with these types.. two, is my costs a bunch for the pedigree angle (200k)...1st starter from a dam who only placed in her career from a 35k stallion

While I do believe this race will be won by 1st time starter, but I think I am gonna against you on this one. First, Pletcher is not great with 1st turf or turf (IMO). Second, she is out of Congrats who is out of A.P. Indy which I think they are better on dirt, they are not great with turf and especially 1st turf. In terms of pedigree, I will take the 2, 7, 8 and 9 over the 6. With a price, I would take the 7- Tropical Wave (ML 15-1). She is out of Lemon Drop Kid (one of my all time favorites) who is out of Kingmambo (excellent turf). While trainer is not great with 1st starts, but he has excellent record for Turf Sprints. And rider Lezcano can certainly pop at a price. As with cost, the 8- Cyrielle costs $300K, and trained by Motion who I really like with turf runners. She is 8-1 ML, she is also worth looking. Rosario wins at a high rate for this trainer. This is how I feel about this race. Although I won't be surprised if Pletchers horse wins, but I think she will be overbet and worth beating. GL.

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While I do believe this race will be won by 1st time starter, but I think I am gonna against you on this one. First, Pletcher is not great with 1st turf or turf (IMO). Second, she is out of Congrats who is out of A.P. Indy which I think they are better on dirt, they are not great with turf and especially 1st turf. In terms of pedigree, I will take the 2, 7, 8 and 9 over the 6. With a price, I would take the 7- Tropical Wave (ML 15-1). She is out of Lemon Drop Kid (one of my all time favorites) who is out of Kingmambo (excellent turf). While trainer is not great with 1st starts, but he has excellent record for Turf Sprints. And rider Lezcano can certainly pop at a price. As with cost, the 8- Cyrielle costs $300K, and trained by Motion who I really like with turf runners. She is 8-1 ML, she is also worth looking. Rosario wins at a high rate for this trainer. This is how I feel about this race. Although I won't be surprised if Pletchers horse wins, but I think she will be overbet and worth beating. GL.

obviously I'm getting to this after the race went off and would never have had the winner..i just put a lot of stock in the very expensive relative to the bloodlines angle.. if pletcher decides to run them on the turf first out even if the pedigree doesn't scream turf I have to trust his judgment.. I don't get many of the kind I just spoke about so I'll almost always go with them..you make good points but guess it's all a matter of what's important to each individual handicapper.. gl to you also

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obviously I'm getting to this after the race went off and would never have had the winner..i just put a lot of stock in the very expensive relative to the bloodlines angle.. if pletcher decides to run them on the turf first out even if the pedigree doesn't scream turf I have to trust his judgment.. I don't get many of the kind I just spoke about so I'll almost always go with them..you make good points but guess it's all a matter of what's important to each individual handicapper.. gl to you also

I also put a weight on cost of horse as well. Sometimes more than I should, as it showed it his race, she cost only $17k.... lol. And i guess that's why she was 30-1 ML and off at 38-1. And I am so pissed at myself. Had the Pick 3 but was trying to safe a dollar or two and it cost me when I didn't hit the "all" button.

August 11 11:02 AM Saratoga Thoroughbred 3 1.00 P3 (PWHL) 6, 7 / 2 / 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 $14.00

And it paid over $500

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I also put a weight on cost of horse as well. Sometimes more than I should, as it showed it his race, she cost only $17k.... lol. And i guess that's why she was 30-1 ML and off at 38-1. And I am so pissed at myself. Had the Pick 3 but was trying to safe a dollar or two and it cost me when I didn't hit the "all" button.

August 11 11:02 AM Saratoga Thoroughbred 3 1.00 P3 (PWHL) 6, 7 / 2 / 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 $14.00

And it paid over $500

yeah that's a tough beat but that's something I would do also (leave out 3 of the 10)..as I said as far as cost of the horse it has to be relative to stud fee,how good a runner was the dam and what she's produced or hasn't had a chance to produce..just expensive less important to me

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del mar

R1 #3 bucky goldstein (3-1)
R4 #9 special story (3-1)
R5 #8 troublewithatee (10-1)

R6 #4 mapit (08-1)

home bred big pedigree by tapit out of a stakes placed distorted humor mare.. wasn't bet first out and ran kind of an even race 1 month ago at this track.. have to think they'd like to take the photo in front of the big crowd there today

R8 #8 arrogate (1-1)

have a hunch he'll bounce back today but that's not gonna make you much money.. watching just for
the sport of it


R10 #8 kathy's song (15-1)

find it interesting they'd try this spot after going through msw and nw1ot at indiana grande in consecutive races.. first time baltas wins 18/76 and gary taking the call makes it all the more interesting

R11 #1 meet and greet (7-2)

cal home bred with a win early pedigree and solid workouts

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R6 #4 bella style (5-1)

bejarano jumps off the well bet baffert firster
to ride this other son of unusual heat..considering its for hector palma might say something about the horse..sire is speed and dam a stakes winner..only foal to race a winner
..not a stakes winner but with high dpi must have been a very solid runner (guessing some of these high dpi non-stakes winnners may be stakes placed but who knows )

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I like the angle, I'll tail

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belmont

R9 #1 nicholas and me (4-1)

englehart excels 1st off claim, 2nd off short layoff .. 1st time gelding..ortiz/trainer 6/20 at belmont together.. will forgive slop effort at saratoga where he was 3 wide battling for the lead.. debut effort at cd would be good enough here.. solid works leading up.. at ml odds probably something not right and expecting more like 5-2

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kentucky downs

R1 #2 coach rocks (6-1)
R2 #4 shirl's ready (6-1)

R3 #4 richmond street (4-1)
R4 #6 brielle's appeal (5-1)

R6 #4 tam tam attack (10-1) scratched
R9 #1 commend (4-1)
R10 #4 oscar nominated (7-2)

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Playing 3 horses today:

Woodbine Race3 #7 Our Miss Maggie(12/1 ML)- 1st start bet down. terrible ride
Belmont Race6 #3 Speighal(5/2 ML)- trapped in most of stretch. got out. flew
Mohawk Race7 #8 Champagne Phil(10/1 ML)- Drop and can win with a decent drive

oops sorry put in the wrong thread

Obviously I love longshots and you never know

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Lol figures. Our Miss Maggie gets stuck in the gate and starts out well behind the pack. Goes 8 wide in the stretch and gets 2nd at 20/1. Sigh.

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