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    JBEX,
    I think I get it....tracks a mud hole.....LOL. Sorry for the dumbness. That blows my picks for the day pretty much. I think I will still take #4 Impressive Edge in Race 4 @ Belmont though, Just so I'm not charged from my PP's.

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    belmont

    R1 #4 no entiendo (5-1)
    R2 #6 skyline drive (5-1)
    R3 #2 tap city (8-1)
    R4 #2 mollica (6-1) ok if off turf

    churchill downs

    R3 #1 sales call (7-2)
    R5 #4 brightly (10-1)
    R6 #6 burgameister (6-1)
    R8 #1 prevailing bets (12-1) #6 latimer (20-1)
    R10 #6 tiree (5-1)
    Last edited by JBEX; 05-14-17 at 09:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    belmont

    R1 #4 no entiendo (5-1)
    R2 #6 skyline drive (5-1)
    R3 #2 tap city (8-1)
    R4 #2 mollica (6-1) ok if off turf

    churchill downs

    R3 #1 sales call (7-2)
    R5 #4 brightly (10-1)
    R6 #6 burgameister (6-1)
    R8 #1 prevailing bets (12-1) #6 latimer (20-1)
    R10 #6 tiree (5-1)
    Nice JBEX! Tiree looked great. I only played a couple today. I had a pretty crap day yesterday lol. Tiree was one of them though. Thanks a bunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pmaynard19 View Post
    Nice JBEX! Tiree looked great. I only played a couple today. I had a pretty crap day yesterday lol. Tiree was one of them though. Thanks a bunch.
    np ..the single digits did well..moonshots not so much but have to be patient with them

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    thistledown

    R1 #3 horseradish (9-2)
    R2 #3 conquest perfectlu (9-2)
    R5 #3 panamaniac (12-1)

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    parx

    R7 #5 fiery opal (5-2)
    R9 #1 cast a doubt (4-1)

    indiana downs

    R5 #4 queen yolanda (12-1)
    R7 #4 conquest mystique (20-1)

    won 2nd off the layoff in his 3rd career start and tries same thing today in his 5th career start.. really not that far off from what it takes to win this race.. would also say that when you factor in all the inexperienced or bad turf jocks at this track, james graham who hits at 14% at the big tracks
    is probably best turf rider in this field

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    belmont

    R4 #1 frost wise (2-1)

    could easily have won if debut was at today's distance vs7f.. winner of that race came back to win next out.. even fade running line on the turf last out and was back in 19 days.. back in 21 today at 6f and feel she's better than this bunch.. cost a lot for the pedigree which is always a positive for me

    R6 #2 zap zap zap (3-1)

    finished 2nd behind expensive pletcher debuter army mule who's gonna be a good one down the road.. have a hunch that one may go in the woody stephens on belmont day. trainer excellent sprint to route,first route, 2nd start.. irad ortiz riding lights out past 7 days

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    pimlico R11 bes

    #3 dancing rags (8-1)

    broke maiden 2nd start and back in 43 days .. returns here in 40 days 2nd off 5 month break...mdn breaker at laurel and victory in the G1 alcibiades nice wins last year..the latter came up very fast with the pace figs and she was close to the front which is always a good sign..didn't do much in her last race but still to me a good leg stretcher..don't think graham motion would send her here if he didn't think she was up to it...nice foundation of fair hill and pine meadow works before and after last race so she should be nice and fit

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    belmont

    R4 #1 frost wise (2-1)

    could easily have won if debut was at today's distance vs7f.. winner of that race came back to win next out.. even fade running line on the turf last out and was back in 19 days.. back in 21 today at 6f and feel she's better than this bunch.. cost a lot for the pedigree which is always a positive for me

    R6 #2 zap zap zap (3-1)

    finished 2nd behind expensive pletcher debuter army mule who's gonna be a good one down the road.. have a hunch that one may go in the woody stephens on belmont day. trainer excellent sprint to route,first route, 2nd start.. irad ortiz riding lights out past 7 days
    Wow. She looked great. I didn't think she was gonna have much left after the trouble at the gate, but she had plenty for the race. Nice pick JBEX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pmaynard19 View Post
    Wow. She looked great. I didn't think she was gonna have much left after the trouble at the gate, but she had plenty for the race. Nice pick JBEX.
    ran well but being pressed finally got to her..at those odds you gotta get it done on the win end. .there was no way to figure the other being on her flank which is just part of racing

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    belmont

    R9 #5 heated verdict (5-1)


    system for game tonight
    series game 2..
    previous away win > 10..
    total > 188..
    2003



    9-1 o/u (12.6)

    only under by 1.5 pts


    over 219

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    ran well but being pressed finally got to her..at those odds you gotta get it done on the win end. .there was no way to figure the other being on her flank which is just part of racing
    Do you think if she was a bit calmer getting into the gate it may have been different? Seems like she used a lot of energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pmaynard19 View Post
    Do you think if she was a bit calmer getting into the gate it may have been different? Seems like she used a lot of energy.
    she was pretty testy loading...took them a while and finally had to back her in from the front. .never helps but hard to put a value in lengths on that

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    she was pretty testy loading...took them a while and finally had to back her in from the front. .never helps but hard to put a value in lengths on that
    Ok. I guess it all kind of depends on the overall circumstances. I'm learning everyday. Thanks

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    pimlico saturday

    R8 #7 bird's eye view (15-1)

    think they'll be a legitimate pace which will set it up nicely for him.. probably was compromised last out with only 4 others running..solid 2yo form and has had to deal with a couple of extreme posts along the way..sure hope he'll go off 15-1 but I doubt it

    R11 #6 watch me whip (12-1)

    broke maiden first out last start at 7f and figure in that race one of the better ones in this field..top and bottom route pedigree and high dpi means he's a half (or full)to a really good one..ridiculous morning line

    R13 preakness ^^^

    #1 multiplier (30-1) ???

    highest brisnet figure in field overall except for classic empire's bc juvenile..ran it winning the illinois derby last out and the pace he closed into was just average which makes it more impressive..think they'll be a decent pace to set it up for him..another morning line that is imo ridiculous
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    What's up? Quick question.. Not looking for a quick response.. Hong Kong: Do the races play out like here in the states? Just curious.. May want to expand at a later date. Thanx. BTW. Glad to see you brought back your parlay.. Its gonna hit.. Big..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckandadime View Post
    What's up? Quick question.. Not looking for a quick response.. Hong Kong: Do the races play out like here in the states? Just curious.. May want to expand at a later date. Thanx. BTW. Glad to see you brought back your parlay.. Its gonna hit.. Big..

    hey buckandadime

    turf,clockwise,seems like wide turns and long stretch. .seems to play pretty fair..big fields and get the feeling it's very on the up and up (no drugs)..over $150 million + us dollars bet on a typical card (translated)...all the pp info available at the site hkjc.com.. very detailed trip info and you can watch the gallop outs after the race..I think I've only scratched the surface with useful info on their site

    stopping at 20 on the parlays so have 7 first legs left ..see what happens

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    added ^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    hey buckandadime

    turf,clockwise,seems like wide turns and long stretch. .seems to play pretty fair..big fields and get the feeling it's very on the up and up (no drugs)..over $150 million + us dollars bet on a typical card (translated)...all the pp info available at the site hkjc.com.. very detailed trip info and you can watch the gallop outs after the race..I think I've only scratched the surface with useful info on their site

    stopping at 20 on the parlays so have 7 first legs left ..see what happens
    Thank you Sir..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckandadime View Post
    Thank you Sir..

    no problem

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    probably peek at mth, bel and cd tomorrow..didn't care for anything earlier on pimlico's card

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    monmouth

    R1 #3 spicy sider (4-1)
    R2 #3 scrap iron phil (7-2)
    R3 #4 smokin hot factor (6-1)
    R4 #7 congrats to m k (4-1)
    R5 #7 chief kitten (9-2)
    Last edited by JBEX; 05-20-17 at 08:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    belmont

    R9 #5 heated verdict (5-1)


    system for game tonight
    series game 2..
    previous away win > 10..
    total > 188..
    2003



    9-1 o/u (12.6)

    only under by 1.5 pts


    over 219
    just when I thought I was out they pulled me back in... then threw me back out last 90 seconds

    added R3 and R4 mth <<

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    added mth R5

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    pimlico saturday

    R8 #7 bird's eye view (15-1)

    think they'll be a legitimate pace which will set it up nicely for him.. probably was compromised last out with only 4 others running..solid 2yo form and has had to deal with a couple of extreme posts along the way..sure hope he'll go off 15-1 but I doubt it

    R11 #6 watch me whip (12-1)

    broke maiden first out last start at 7f and figure in that race one of the better ones in this field..top and bottom route pedigree and high dpi means he's a half (or full)to a really good one..ridiculous morning line

    R13 preakness ^^^

    #1 multiplier (30-1) ???

    highest brisnet figure in field overall except for classic empire's bc juvenile..ran it winning the illinois derby last out and the pace he closed into was just average which makes it more impressive..think they'll be a decent pace to set it up for him..another morning line that is imo ridiculous
    Hey JBEX: Checked out the Beyer for the Illinois Derby. Multiplier got an 88. Big difference from the 104 Brisnet assigned him. Maybe that is why he is 30/1 on ML. Does that give you a cause for pause? Will be interesting to see how he runs today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    pimlico saturday

    R8 #7 bird's eye view (15-1)

    think they'll be a legitimate pace which will set it up nicely for him.. probably was compromised last out with only 4 others running..solid 2yo form and has had to deal with a couple of extreme posts along the way..sure hope he'll go off 15-1 but I doubt it

    R11 #6 watch me whip (12-1)

    broke maiden first out last start at 7f and figure in that race one of the better ones in this field..top and bottom route pedigree and high dpi means he's a half (or full)to a really good one..ridiculous morning line

    R13 preakness ^^^

    #1 multiplier (30-1) ???

    highest brisnet figure in field overall except for classic empire's bc juvenile..ran it winning the illinois derby last out and the pace he closed into was just average which makes it more impressive..think they'll be a decent pace to set it up for him..another morning line that is imo ridiculous
    just found out that the beyer figure for the illinois derby was very low which explains the morning line..there about 10 lengths apart on performance
    rating so don't know what to make of it honestly..if I were just using beyers would be a no play

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    I think the race sets up nicely for him..


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    How much more Early speed is in the field? I wonder if it will go down different than the Derby. I'm kinda stuck because my numbers from my very limited handicapping experience (a couple of weeks...) keeps me heading back to Classic Empire. I'm excited to see what happens. Good Luck to everyone today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pmaynard19 View Post
    How much more Early speed is in the field? I wonder if it will go down different than the Derby. I'm kinda stuck because my numbers from my very limited handicapping experience (a couple of weeks...) keeps me heading back to Classic Empire. I'm excited to see what happens. Good Luck to everyone today.


    you never know who is going to win...but i think he is a solid pick....he could win also ......

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    lost some faith in brisnet with the big figure they had on multiplier in the Illinois derby.. have a hunch they are less accurate than drf, timeform and others.. can't afford the type of product I'd need from those mentioned so gonna stay away for awhile

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    have to make due with them .. I'm not a slave to speed figures anyway and no one should be..

    pimlico

    R4 #9 break the mold (6-1)
    R5 #6 dirtyfoot (12-1)
    R7 #5 pledge of love (4-1)
    R9 #6 no love lost (6-1)

    churchill

    R2 #7 american alphabet (5-1)
    R4 #3 malibu at moonlight (6-1)
    R5 #1 cap's tale (6-1)
    R6 #3 american sea (15-1)
    R7 #3 uss altair (12-1)
    R9 #2 my eminence (3-1)
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