[YMCM23]

It's not like football where you know the people. Isn't a horse racing life short so new ones pop up. Like if I go to an online bookie I don't know any horses because I don't live next to the tracks and never seen them. So how would I handicap them or look at information on horses. And what would I look at to make my decisions. I always wanted to get in pony races but never knew how to handicap the. Thank you in advance.

[DHB]

how do u bet football or basketball?
do u know all the players? have u seen them? do u live next to the stadium?
shit no.

u look at stats and form right?
same with horses, u look at the form guide.

[Easy-Rider 66]

[str]

My questions and answers thread in the horse forum has plenty of info for you if you are interested.

In 2 years, I have covered an awful lot.

Some might be a bit over your head but there is plenty in there that can help.

Also a lot of books on the subject but careful there. There is a difference between fact, statistics and opinion.

Hope that helps.

[YMCM23]

@DHB- where would I get the stats if Im betting online. Also I'm penetrating new to horse racing so I wouldn't know how perfect form would look like. If care to elaborate where I would get stats say I were to bet on Santa Anita where would I find the stats on horses and what would I look at? @STR- I will look into that.

[Slimpickens]

Best advice I would give is to stick to one circuit to start. Watch the races everyday whether you are wagering or not and you will start to pick things up. Yes, you can get to know the horses just as well as you know a pro athlete. You just have to put in the time. If you dont have the time I would recomend not even trying because this game isnt EZ.

[balls2wall]

@DHB- where would I get the stats if Im betting online. Also I'm penetrating new to horse racing so I wouldn't know how perfect form would look like. If care to elaborate where I would get stats say I were to bet on Santa Anita where would I find the stats on horses and what would I look at? @STR- I will look into that.

The past performances (PPs) will show the horses' previous races and stats. Brisnet (my fav) and Equibase are the two companies that do them. So if you are betting @ twinspires dot com they have a section where you would download the PPs for the track you are wagering for that day. The PPs are free for the track that you are wagering on that day. The PPs for that day will show each horses previous races along with the jockey/trainer stats etc...

There are also some programs that you can use to help.

I would suggest just jumping in and betting small. That way you can get your feet wet and not risk a whole lot.

BOL

[YMCM23]

I bet at 5dimes and bookmaker. I don't know if they post past performance and what not. I will read other posts and see what I can dissect so I can become a horse handicapper. Thanks for the input guys.

[balls2wall]

I don't think offshores offer free pps, or maybe even any at all, but I could be wrong


I like using the legal ones in the states for the instant transfer of money etc...

[Sawyer]

Easy Answer: Line Movement.

[Slimpickens]

Easy Answer: Line Movement.

Yea, bet on what everybody else is betting on, thats sure to work.

[Slimpickens]

I bet at 5dimes and bookmaker. I don't know if they post past performance and what not. I will read other posts and see what I can dissect so I can become a horse handicapper. Thanks for the input guys.

Offshore do not offer any pp's. Go to DRF.com. They will have every thing you will ever need.

[skw12354]

You really need to study past performances. If you go to http://www.horse-races.net/library/l...rformances.htm, you can get free ones by clicking on a trainer's name. I use that. Pay particular attention to the horse's past performances at the distance and the surface of the track (whether it's all weather, dirt, or turf) where he'll be runnning. Also, for example, if the length of the race is 1 1/8 miles and the horse has never run that far; look at how he did at a shorter distance. If he was gaining ground and catching up, he might like more distance. These are just things that I really look at. Good luck!

[skw12354]

I don 't know what I did to that link, but you can still get right to it by clicking on it. I just did (surprisingly).

[exstatman]

Two of the WORST angles to follow? Betting closers who go to a longer distance and speed horses who go to a shorter distance. Closers who stretch out will be facing slower early race pace, making their close less effective, and speed horses shortening up will face stronger pressure, making their speed less effective. Now this is a general tip as any specific race can have an odd outcome, but if you follow this, you will find yourself avoiding overbet horses.

[Sawyer]

Yea, bet on what everybody else is betting on, thats sure to work.

Not really..

[Topo]

From my experience, you either have inside scoops on a few horses that day or you will probably lose. Studying form is an okay strategy, but everyone can see the horse's race history. You have to look past the numbers and see things that others might not see. Winning margins and times can be more important than the order of finish.

[nvrlose37]

Waste post

[nvrlose37]

From my experience, you either have inside scoops on a few horses that day or you will probably lose. Studying form is an okay strategy, but everyone can see the horse's race history. You have to look past the numbers and see things that others might not see. Winning margins and times can be more important than the order of finish.

True but the same stats mean things to different people. A horse finishing first may look great but someone else will not like him based off of a layoff or something.

[str]

Two of the WORST angles to follow? Betting closers who go to a longer distance and speed horses who go to a shorter distance. Closers who stretch out will be facing slower early race pace, making their close less effective, and speed horses shortening up will face stronger pressure, making their speed less effective. Now this is a general tip as any specific race can have an odd outcome, but if you follow this, you will find yourself avoiding overbet horses.

Wow. Those are so bad that I never thought they were even considered angles.

You are correct but you already knew that.

I hope others do as well.

[str]

From my experience, you either have inside scoops on a few horses that day or you will probably lose. Studying form is an okay strategy, but everyone can see the horse's race history. You have to look past the numbers and see things that others might not see. Winning margins and times can be more important than the order of finish.

Inside scoops are very overrated.

It all depends on who the inside source is. Most so called inside sources have no clue believe it or not.

I will take a truly educated handicapper that knows that particular track over 90% of those inside sources every time.

I very much agree with your take on different people seeing different things within the same text.

[shevabets]

here's a quick guide:
1) Buy a vacation trip to Vegas. Leave family behind
2) Upon landing, play every slot machine you can find, starting at the Airport
3) After a day at the slots/black jack tables, drown your sorrows in a nice half bottle of Jack Daniels
4) Take the money you have left and find a horse that pays at least 15/1.
4b If you have no idea who to bet on, ask your cocktail waitress. She's an expert, at least compared to you.
5) When your horse wins, go back to the casino. Get tips from blackjack dealers, pit bosses and total strangers. You may lose but you're going to have the time of your life