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    gordan21
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    john piesen

    Does anyone use john piesen? if so how good or bad is he? who is good for horses?

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    Seattle Slew
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    Just pick em yourself. Just as good.

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    unusialsusp5
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    anyone who follows public handicappers selections is an idiot. you will end up with favorites nine out of ten times. what fun is it unless you pick them yourself. they don't even pick them, they have interns who do it for them and use their byline to sell newspapers or tip sheets. yet, people believe that these "experts" pick winners and follow them religiously. just buy a program and play the 3rd pick on the consensus and you will do just as good if you have no handicapping ability.

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    gordan21
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    3rd pick? Anyone use all-ways software?

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    jmatthew
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    I used all-ways for month. The data files often are missing information. Waste of money.

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    gordan21
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    I used focus 2000 5 years ago and worked well. Then the site disappeared focus is gone. People talk about all-ways being good? Is there any good programs for horse racing? Or picks that are good?

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    hawkwind
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    Like SS said, Handicap yourself, you'll win as much if not more Also cap outside of the box if you look at the form as most do you'll come up with the post time favorite and they only win on average of 30% of the time use additional angles and increase your winning %

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    Seattle Slew
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    There are some decent public handicappers the tracks use on their signals, and they don't charge anything.

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