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    pico
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    is it true horse racing in uk and europe is fixed odds?

    my friend told me that when he bet on horses back in uk, whatever odds get got when he bet is the the odds of the final payout.

    he also said, you can do this in australia too.

    too bad you can;t do this in the USA

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    You bet with a bookmaker who moves lines like in sportsbetting the odds change up to post time but you get whatever price you bet it at. There are pari-mutuel pools that also can be bet into on these events where it s the same as here so it does vary. You can also bet at exchanges for or against a horse. Many more options overseas.

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    the tracks in europe or Australia are fun as there is a PIT where many individual bookies have their shop an you can wager fixed odds with them..mostly the same prices but you can shop around..or just play the parimutual pool if you dont like the prices.

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    when your in a rut, you move slower and see all the crap along side the road
    and that wrapper comes arouhnd and arond on your times slowly
    you are witght in there with all the crap boken bottles, dirt

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoIrish682 View Post
    when your in a rut, you move slower and see all the crap along side the road
    and that wrapper comes arouhnd and arond on your times slowly
    you are witght in there with all the crap boken bottles, dirt

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    Know exchanges allow you to bet or set a certain amount of odds you want on a horse

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    You can take the current odds (at the time you place your bet), or you can take the starting price, or you can take "Best odds Guaranteed" with some bookmakers ... you can also back or lay a horse ... or on betfair you can place a wager and only have the bet accepted if your horse goes off at a certain price.

    You can also back to win, or "each way" (which splits your bet between win and place .. which generally covers the first three places .. though some races pay out on four places .. and some of the larger races with some bookmakers even pay out on the first 5 horses) you can also bet "place only" .. and a lot of the time you can bet for your horse "Without the favorite" (so you win if your horse comes first or second to the favorite) ..
    Last edited by jw; 07-20-11 at 01:01 AM.

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    Who needs sports when you have Ponies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jw View Post
    You can take the current odds (at the time you place your bet), or you can take the starting price, or you can take "Best odds Guaranteed" with some bookmakers ...

    Best Odds Guarantee is the most amazing thing out there no American could ever even conceive such a thing was happening. Take a horse at 4-1 closing price is 5-1 and you get 5-1 if it wins, but if it goes down to 3-1 you still get 4-1, unreal.

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    american tracks suck

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    Europe is just so different than American gambling

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    If horses could bet on people, would they?

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    what would the horses use to bet with?i can only think of one thing.it's brown and fuzzy and stinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Vandeleigh View Post


    Best Odds Guarantee is the most amazing thing out there no American could ever even conceive such a thing was happening. Take a horse at 4-1 closing price is 5-1 and you get 5-1 if it wins, but if it goes down to 3-1 you still get 4-1, unreal.
    Very easy to get limited very quickly using this however ...
    but you are right ... it is worth its weight in gold sometimes.

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    Uk and France,Scandinavia.They all are just different worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jw View Post
    Very easy to get limited very quickly using this however ...
    but you are right ... it is worth its weight in gold sometimes.
    Interesting comment, how can the player know if the odds are going to drift up on a horse he bet, or even if he did know that, why not wait until they did go up so he wouldn't get limited? What would the bookmakers logic be to identify this person as doing something shady?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Vandeleigh View Post

    Interesting comment, how can the player know if the odds are going to drift up on a horse he bet, or even if he did know that, why not wait until they did go up so he wouldn't get limited? What would the bookmakers logic be to identify this person as doing something shady?
    Basically if you beat them out of a good amount on a semi-regular basis... they won't give you access to the good options.

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    yes you can , but i always bet the SP ,dont like fixed odds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxxyfish View Post
    yes you can , but i always bet the SP ,dont like fixed odds

    how was vegas? you one of the november 9?

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    Just bet on an exchange like betmaker, then you can make fixed odds for yourself.

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    Australia is even more complicated

    City odds
    Local odds
    Tote odds
    Fixed odds

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    Quote Originally Posted by jw View Post
    You can take the current odds (at the time you place your bet), or you can take the starting price, or you can take "Best odds Guaranteed" with some bookmakers ... you can also back or lay a horse ... or on betfair you can place a wager and only have the bet accepted if your horse goes off at a certain price.

    You can also back to win, or "each way" (which splits your bet between win and place .. which generally covers the first three places .. though some races pay out on four places .. and some of the larger races with some bookmakers even pay out on the first 5 horses) you can also bet "place only" .. and a lot of the time you can bet for your horse "Without the favorite" (so you win if your horse comes first or second to the favorite) ..
    Wow. Offshore books should take note.

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