[whatsgood5]

...and how'd that work out for ya?

[Casperwaits]

got to agree with you there roxy about when you have a bad day, nobody says a thing but maybe a bash and when we hit something, maybe we might get a response or maybe not butif we are on a roll for a bit, then people start showing up and when you have a off day, they are gone again. keep doing what your doing. i never say lock says it always keep me in the ass i backed uncle moe with back up plays using tobys corner, my second choice and may some money yesterday some people took mt top 2 picks in the 3 races leading up to moe and played pick 3's and cashed. take care

Notice in the SBR contest how that race flipped everything around..lol? Truly epic loss. Scary thing is that will help his odds in the Derby and I have a funny feeling by then, this horse will be ready for the big stage.

[daimoshokage]

so easy to talk trash isnt it ?? yes i lost 1.2K yesterday but i was just allin with my winnings before, second i play around 20 sportsbooks all have a balance one more one less, on this here i deposited 1000$ to start a spreadsheet, there are still 476$ left and if the Dodgers win around 300 more,and YES Uncle Mo was a lock for me, but NO i didnt bet a $,of course i was thinking about, and my winning 7 - 2 soccerbets from the afternoon was played on my Betsson account ,and have nothing to do with my spreadsheet, what ever i give a shit what some brainless kids here think, i am still a good capper ,i had 2 bad days sowhat ?? ,believe me it needs more till i would get broke , enuff said, everyone here see when you have a bad day and no one care when you have a good day, thats fact

Why is that if a LOCK loses all of sudden the OP will post this shit that he didn't bet on it.. this is getting rampant here..

If this won, roxxy will post that he won a lot of $$$$$$$$$ on it.. typical!

[Roxxyfish]

you just dont know me, clown

Why is that if a LOCK loses all of sudden the OP will post this shit that he didn't bet on it.. this is getting rampant here.. If this won, roxxy will post that he won a lot of $$$$$$$$$ on it.. typical!

[EmpireMaker]

When you load up on hype...you have to be willing to pay the man...NYRA is a dirty place

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[daimoshokage]

Waiting for the next Fade of the Century by Roxxyfish

[kfranz31]

i made the mistake myself several years ago....one took once to learn my lesson.....favorites that big are suckers by the track......i stay away from those and watch from a distance

[daimoshokage]

Lock of the fukking century!!!!! This will never lose!!!!! Bet your child on it!!!!!

[mikemca]

THE FACTOR is going to be everyones "Lock" on Saturday at 3-5

[daimoshokage]

Did this bet won? For crying out loud it's the Lock of the Century.. It's a sure thing right?!

[daimoshokage]

THE FACTOR is going to be everyones "Lock" on Saturday at 3-5

[VegasInsider]

No, it didn't.

On top of it not winning...it was the SQUARE play of the century. Take a 3-5 favorite that was the front-runner for the Derby favorite is not good gambling in horse racing.

[EaglesPhan36]

If SBR had any balls they'd ban people who make lock threads and then say they never bet a $$$ on it. Original poster posts some good picks for soccer and others, but that's a pussy move and one that would get you killed in some places.

[daimoshokage]

If SBR had any balls they'd ban people who make lock threads and then say they never bet a $$$ on it. Original poster posts some good picks for soccer and others, but that's a pussy move and one that would get you killed in some places.

SBR should ban this dimwit Roxxyfish.. Throwing this Lock of the Century bullshit..

[wtf]

it was uncle mo's first time at 1 1/8th so that is a major risk and definitely worth betting against

ironically he still might win the derby I think secretariat lost the wood also

[str]

it was uncle mo's first time at 1 1/8th so that is a major risk and definitely worth betting against

ironically he still might win the derby I think secretariat lost the wood also

Secretariat did lose the Wood.He finished 3rd. That was due to an abscessed tooth. .
Problem with Uncle Mo is his breeding subjects that he will be hard pressed to go further than 1 1/8. His Dam side is filled with sprinters and milers.
You never know for sure though.

[Thunder Gulch]

Secretariat did lose the Wood.He finished 3rd. That was due to an abscessed tooth. .
Problem with Uncle Mo is his breeding subjects that he will be hard pressed to go further than 1 1/8. His Dam side is filled with sprinters and milers.
You never know for sure though.

I'm not going to argue that Mo's pedigree is ready to take him 12f (anymore than Smarty Jones or Funny Cide), but this comment is an flawed argument I've been hearing all winter that I totally disagree with. His damsire is Arch, who just produced the Breeders Cup Classic champ and defacto champ Blame. Arch is by Kris S, who anyone who really knows breeding will tell you is one of the major producers of stamina in the American breeding circles from the Roberto line. Dixieland Band is from the Northern Dancer line in the 3rd generation of the female family.

Indian Charlie is his sire. Charlie was the Santa Anita Derby winner in a really fast 9f before being hurt in the Derby when Real Quiet won. The breeding is more pedestrian on that side but past Charlie, the 3rd generation sire is Caro, who produced the great Kentucky Derby winning filly, Winning Colors.

[str]

I'm not going to argue that Mo's pedigree is ready to take him 12f (anymore than Smarty Jones or Funny Cide), but this comment is an flawed argument I've been hearing all winter that I totally disagree with. His damsire is Arch, who just produced the Breeders Cup Classic champ and defacto champ Blame. Arch is by Kris S, who anyone who really knows breeding will tell you is one of the major producers of stamina in the American breeding circles from the Roberto line. Dixieland Band is from the Northern Dancer line in the 3rd generation of the female family.

Indian Charlie is his sire. Charlie was the Santa Anita Derby winner in a really fast 9f before being hurt in the Derby when Real Quiet won. The breeding is more pedestrian on that side but past Charlie, the 3rd generation sire is Caro, who produced the great Kentucky Derby winning filly, Winning Colors.

I am not aware of other peoples arguments in regards to this blood line.This forum is about as far as my research goes. What I am going on is the Dams side that has many Maryland connections.I was around a lot of these bloodlines during my time at the track.I am however going strictly on memory so please do not hold me to every statement.
If I recall correctly, I remember Hot Slippers as a sprinter.She trained almost exclusively at Pimlico( Charles Frock) and I think she won more races there than anywhere else.They had no 7/8 or mile racing and while she did run 1 1/6 and win (probably but not sure) she won more often at 6 F or 6 /1/2 at Timonium.So to me she is a real stamina issue.Her sire,Rollicking was a pure sprinter. 7/8s was stretching out for him.
Mississippi Mud ( Charlie Peoples) was a 1 1/6 to 1 1/8 horse. She did very well at those distances.When she tried 1 1/4 she got crushed but in fairness to her,those were the better mares on the east coast and she ,while very good,was a notch below them.
Cyane( Henry Clark,one of the best horseman I ever had the pleasure of sharing a barn with) was a solid stud in Md. but he threw many more 6F - 1 1/6 horses than he did 1 1/8.
Cyanes Slippers was a highly touted failure and am pretty sure she never hit the board.She just could not run a lick.
Dixie Slippers won 3 or 4 races but was nothing to even really care about.
As for Indian Charlie, I never ( probably unfairly) would give credit to a Calif. horse for winning on or with the lead.Back then,speed was so tough to overcome out there I refused to acknowledge a fast Cal. horses ability until they showed it elsewhere.
While I am well aware of Arch, Kris S, Roberto,and Northern Dancer as well as Princequillo, and others, the reason it is my opinion that 1 1/4 will be a problem for Uncle Mo is that if we have learned one thing from breeding it is that the flaw in the blood line almost always comes through.I think Uncle Mo's flaw is questionable classic distance.
I will say that if the track comes up muddy ,breeding suggests that he will take to it like a duck takes to water.A ton of solid mudders in his line.

Smarty Jones was certainly not expected to get 12F but was able to. Same with Funny Cide although not quite as bad.These same questions were there for both of those horses.( Must say that 1-5 in the Belmont was a free payday betting against Smarty Jones.Birdstone did not beat Smarty Jones that day. 1 1/2 did.)
Also, Barclay Tagg did a masterful job training Funny Cide.Barclay came up under Mr. Whitely who was a legend in the Md. circuit.Hell ,he was a legend period.I am not so sure that many other trainers would have been able to get out of Funny Cide what he did.I do not normally say that a trainer can make a horse go further than he normally would but if anyone did, it was Barclay with Funny Cide.
Breeding is an inexact science as we all know.And because it is a best guess situation until a horse proves what he can and cannot do, no one knows for sure.
What I offered was an opinion based on that.You might very well be right and he might run well but I will be as surprised as I was when Smarty Jones won it if he does. Sometimes horses defy the percentages. When they do, I usually lose.In my opinion,the percentage play is against him. That is where I was coming from.

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[big joe 1212]

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[big joe 1212]

why would someone do a write up on a 1-9?

not even worth it to begin with!

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[daimoshokage]

jj PLEASE FIND ME A BRIDGE