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    Tommy get on 5 dimes much better book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcava View Post
    For example,

    NYI/MON Under 6.5 is -200 tonight. Bet $200 to win $100 (for $50 units per team)
    If parlayed with FLA/NYR NO OT the bet changes to $112 to win $100 (for $50 units per team)

    Not a bad idea, although the idea of throwing all your money into one game is the part that would scare me, even with betting on the other side. I hope you keep us in the loop on how it goes! Let us know what you're doing here.
    I have tried that on 5Dimes, parlaying the -6.5 at -200 and taking the NO OT at -365...It says the 2 bets are invalid within the same parlay. Forgive me! Am i doing something wrong? TY in advance..

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyRocks View Post
    I have tried that on 5Dimes, parlaying the -6.5 at -200 and taking the NO OT at -365...It says the 2 bets are invalid within the same parlay. Forgive me! Am i doing something wrong? TY in advance..
    Are you parlaying the U6.5 and No OT on the same game? They have to be for different games because you can't have a correlated parlay. Should work if they are on two separate games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witteveentommy View Post
    Are you parlaying the U6.5 and No OT on the same game? They have to be for different games because you can't have a correlated parlay. Should work if they are on two separate games.
    Oh My!!! I very seldom do parlays...Your advice worked..TY...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcava View Post
    For example,

    NYI/MON Under 6.5 is -200 tonight. Bet $200 to win $100 (for $50 units per team)
    If parlayed with FLA/NYR NO OT the bet changes to $112 to win $100 (for $50 units per team)

    Not a bad idea, although the idea of throwing all your money into one game is the part that would scare me, even with betting on the other side. I hope you keep us in the loop on how it goes! Let us know what you're doing here.

    Exactly. I wouldnt do necessarily every game, every day. I would pick a parlay i like each day and chase a losing parlay
    up to 3 or 4 times. So basicly youd pick one under 6/6.5 or heavy favorite u like (anywhere from -150 to -250) and one "no ot" that u like. I would hedge only ONE of those games for a small price...that'll give u plus odds and insurance which would allow us to break about even and try it again. If it loses i would do exact thing again for 2 different games the next day except doubling my bet. Again i dont like martngale but i think i would be comfortable chasing this up to 3-4 parlays since the winning percentages are high AND you're hedging one half of the parlay anyway.

    For example...5 dimes has a parlay im considering which is
    1. 11/10/2013 6:05 PM NHL Hockey 1 New York Islanders/Montreal Canadiens* Under 6½ -200
    2. 11/10/2013 7:05 PM NHL Hockey 6 NAS/NJD no overtime* -345 vs NAS/NJD goes to overtime
    Risking $20.00 To Win $18.70

    Now, i can hedge that with a str8 bet of nash/njd will go overtime with plus odds which will be 6.50 to win 18.53 which basically would give us our money back
    and allow us to try another parlay again. If we win the parlay we would pocket 18.70 minus the 6.50 hedge for a 12.20 profit.

    So obviously the only way we can lose will be if mtl and NY do indeed score 7 goals or more tonight. If they do i would do the same thing and parlay 2
    different games tomorrow that i like except for 40 dollars. Again i would feel comfortable doing this for up to 3-4 straight parlay losses in a row.
    Heavy favorites = Heavy winning percentages....so this is just a way of playing/chasing them for even money with 2 team parlays rather then paying heavy juice just str8 betting them.
    Last edited by cooler54; 11-10-13 at 03:42 PM.

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    I have adjusted the settings on the Google Doc so a) anyone can edit if they think they can make something better / wants to add something and b) to have a chatroom feature for those who are watching the games to talk.

    I'll try and stop in tonight at some point!

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    Alright heres my card...took a little more then even money but i like my picks....pretty confident at least one of these will hit if not both but we'll see! GL everyone

    208411309-1 11/10/13 5:47pm $24.00 $19.23 Pending 2 Team Parlay
    Pending 11/10/13 7:05pm NHL Hockey 5 Nashville Predators +1½ -325* vs New Jersey Devils
    Pending 11/10/13 7:35pm NHL Hockey 8 Chicago Blackhawks -265* vs Edmonton Oilers
    208410249-1 11/10/13 5:42pm $23.00 $19.34 Pending 2 Team Parlay
    Pending 11/10/13 6:05pm NHL Hockey 1 New York Islanders/Montreal Canadiens Under 6½ -200*
    Pending 11/10/13 7:35pm NHL Hockey 8 EDM/CHI no overtime -440* vs EDM/CHI goes to overtime

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    Cant see ur picks cooler could u plz type ur picks

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    Cant see ur picks cooler could u plz type ur picks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe05ca View Post
    Cant see ur picks cooler could u plz type ur picks
    There is a bar underneath his picks you can move side to side...

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    Ok thank u rocks

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    You should be able to scroll left to right within that post if u are on a computer...dont know if it works when you're on a smartphone

    Anyways i have 3 parlays going.....

    Preds +1.5/Blackhawks ML

    NYI-MTL Under 6.5/Edm-Chicago NO OT

    EDM-Chic NO OT/Col +1.5/SJ +1.5 (3 team parlay)

    Was hesitant to take SJ after their recent pathetic display but i think it was wake up call for them and they should come out firing...took the +1.5 just in case cause i could see it going to overtime or winning/losing by 1 in regulation as worst case scenario

    GL guys!!
    Last edited by cooler54; 11-10-13 at 05:36 PM.

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    $40.00 $104.44 Pending 4 Team Parlay
    Pending 11/10/13 7:05pm NHL Hockey 5 Nashville Predators +1½ -325* vs New Jersey Devils
    Pending 11/10/13 7:35pm NHL Hockey 8 EDM/CHI no overtime -440* vs EDM/CHI goes to overtime
    Pending 11/10/13 8:05pm NHL Hockey 11 San Jose Sharks/Winnipeg Jets Under 6½ -200*
    Pending 11/10/13 8:05pm NHL Hockey 13 Vancouver Canucks/Anaheim Ducks Under 6½ -200*
    208413101-1 11/10/13 5:53pm $50.00 $40.00 Pending 11/10/13 6:05pm NHL Hockey 2 Montreal Canadiens (1st 60 min) -½ -125* vs New York Islanders (1st 60 min)
    208413101-2 11/10/13 5:53pm $62.00 $40.00 Pending 11/10/13 7:05pm NHL Hockey 4 New York Rangers (1st 60 min) -½ -155* vs Florida Panthers (1st 60 min)
    208406184-1 11/10/13 5:24pm $40.00 $58.89 Pending 3 Team Parlay
    Pending 11/10/13 6:05pm NHL Hockey 1 New York Islanders/Montreal Canadiens Under 6½ -200*
    Pending 11/10/13 7:05pm NHL Hockey 6 NAS/NJD no overtime -345* vs NAS/NJD goes to overtime
    Pending 11/10/13 8:05pm NHL Hockey 14 VAN/ANA no overtime -360* vs VAN/ANA goes to overtim

    Some of my plays

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    Like the parlays Joe...GL!

    NYI/MTL under 6.5 looking good already....ill be in the chat room of the spreadsheet kcava started off and on during the games...so if u all wanna discuss strategy/games to get this thing off the ground...feel free

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    I am playing all the games on the unders as well as the following parlay.

    Edm-Chi. NO OT
    Jets-Sharks u 6.5
    25.00 to win 21.02

    GLTA

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler54 View Post
    Like the parlays Joe...GL!

    NYI/MTL under 6.5 looking good already....ill be in the chat room of the spreadsheet kcava started off and on during the games...so if u all wanna discuss strategy/games to get this thing off the ground...feel free
    Pardon me, where would i go to find that chat room??? TY in advance.

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    go to kcava's spreadsheet from post 1 and you'll see the chatroom tab

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    Thnks coooler gl man

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    208417941-1 11/10/13 6:12pm $20.00 $15.12 $35.12 Win 3 Team Parlay
    Win 11/10/13 7:35pm NHL Hockey 8 EDM/CHI no overtime -440* vs EDM/CHI goes to overtime
    Win 11/10/13 8:05pm NHL Hockey 10 Colorado Avalanche +1½ -500* vs Washington Capitals
    Win 11/10/13 8:05pm NHL Hockey 11 San Jose Sharks +1½ -520* vs Winnipeg Jets
    208411309-1 11/10/13 5:47pm $24.00 $19.23 $0.00 Loss 2 Team Parlay
    Loss 11/10/13 7:05pm NHL Hockey 5 Nashville Predators +1½ -325* vs New Jersey Devils
    Win 11/10/13 7:35pm NHL Hockey 8 Chicago Blackhawks -265* vs Edmonton Oilers
    208410249-1 11/10/13 5:42pm $23.00 $19.34 $42.34 Win 2 Team Parlay
    Win 11/10/13 6:05pm NHL Hockey 1 New York Islanders/Montreal Canadiens Under 6½ -200*
    Win 11/10/13 7:35pm NHL Hockey 8 EDM/CHI no overtime -440* vs EDM/CHI goes to overtime




    Hit 2 of the 3 parlays tonight...couldve been a sweep if Nashville decided to actually show up to the arena. Oh well....ill try to hit a few more tomorrow!!!

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    Only game today starts at 1:05 and 5Dimes won't put the additional lines up. Lame. The only thing I'm on today is Tampa +1.5

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    Tampa ml $40

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    I really like this system. Thanks for posting.
    Last edited by Kababayan; 11-11-13 at 04:45 PM.

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    Alright heres some very important numbers for ya'll in terms of this system......ENJOY!!

    5 years worth of Over and Under records.....sry if numbers are squished up

    Year- Undr5- Ovr 5- Under@6- Under@6.5

    2008/9- 561/541- 53/32- 612/490- 740/490
    2009/10- 570/514- 53/41- 648/468- 762/468
    2010/11- 540/468- 79/85- 676/435- 795/435
    2011/12- 429/397- 146/143- 684/403- 827/403
    2012/13- 242/187- 111/109- 417/234- 486/234

    Im thinking maybe doing 4 game chase for a team to go under the alt 6/6.5 line might be profitable. So far this year after a month and a half of hockey, the most games in a row a team went over 6/6.5 was 4 and it happened only twice. (NY Islanders and Nashville) Granted, its a small sample size but thats what i got so far. I also noticed that most teams dont have more then 2 overs in a row a high majority of the time. So, if they do get past that point, maybe if u parlayed games 3 and 4 of your team chase with a heavy favorite or a "no ot" bet you can take away alot of the juice and still cash. Obviously a chase loss would be a chunk of units but you have to remember youd be racking up units like crazy if you're chasing every teams games to go under 6/6.5 for up to 4 games.

    Bottom line is, we do indeed have a very high win % to work with here

    Again, just throwing it out there.....anyone else have any ideas or wanna backtest it more in depth feel free to share. Looking forward to more hockey tomorrow!




    Last edited by cooler54; 11-11-13 at 06:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler54 View Post
    Alright heres some very important numbers for ya'll in terms of this system......ENJOY!!

    5 years worth of Over and Under records.....sry if numbers are squished up

    Year- Undr5- Ovr 5- Under@6- Under@6.5

    2008/9- 561/541- 53/32- 612/490- 740/490
    2009/10- 570/514- 53/41- 648/468- 762/468
    2010/11- 540/468- 79/85- 676/435- 795/435
    2011/12- 429/397- 146/143- 684/403- 827/403
    2012/13- 242/187- 111/109- 417/234- 486/234

    Im thinking maybe doing 4 game chase for a team to go under the alt 6/6.5 line might be profitable. So far this year after a month and a half of hockey, the most games in a row a team went over 6/6.5 was 4 and it happened only twice. (NY Islanders and Nashville) Granted, its a small sample size but thats what i got so far. I also noticed that most teams dont have more then 2 overs in a row a high majority of the time. So, if they do get past that point, maybe if u parlayed games 3 and 4 of your team chase with a heavy favorite or a "no ot" bet you can take away alot of the juice and still cash. Obviously a chase loss would be a chunk of units but you have to remember youd be racking up units like crazy if you're chasing every teams games to go under 6/6.5 for up to 4 games.

    Bottom line is, we do indeed have a very high win % to work with here

    Again, just throwing it out there.....anyone else have any ideas or wanna backtest it more in depth feel free to share. Looking forward to more hockey tomorrow!




    Great work cooler, TY..

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooler54 View Post
    Alright heres some very important numbers for ya'll in terms of this system......ENJOY!!

    5 years worth of Over and Under records.....sry if numbers are squished up

    Year- Undr5- Ovr 5- Under@6- Under@6.5

    2008/9- 561/541- 53/32- 612/490- 740/490
    2009/10- 570/514- 53/41- 648/468- 762/468
    2010/11- 540/468- 79/85- 676/435- 795/435
    2011/12- 429/397- 146/143- 684/403- 827/403
    2012/13- 242/187- 111/109- 417/234- 486/234

    Im thinking maybe doing 4 game chase for a team to go under the alt 6/6.5 line might be profitable. So far this year after a month and a half of hockey, the most games in a row a team went over 6/6.5 was 4 and it happened only twice. (NY Islanders and Nashville) Granted, its a small sample size but thats what i got so far. I also noticed that most teams dont have more then 2 overs in a row a high majority of the time. So, if they do get past that point, maybe if u parlayed games 3 and 4 of your team chase with a heavy favorite or a "no ot" bet you can take away alot of the juice and still cash. Obviously a chase loss would be a chunk of units but you have to remember youd be racking up units like crazy if you're chasing every teams games to go under 6/6.5 for up to 4 games.

    Bottom line is, we do indeed have a very high win % to work with here

    Again, just throwing it out there.....anyone else have any ideas or wanna backtest it more in depth feel free to share. Looking forward to more hockey tomorrow!




    Outstanding my man! Thanks a lot for putting this together. I've been crazy busy this semester so I wasn't able to backtest this system. Excited for the rest of the year!

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    These are great numbers. I think I'll stop the chase if I have a positive day. So, for example, if I go 4-1 or 6-2, I won't chase the losses the next day. That could help if one team happens to go under 4 in a row. I know that I'll be leaving some money on the table, but it might keep me from big chase losses later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kababayan View Post
    These are great numbers. I think I'll stop the chase if I have a positive day. So, for example, if I go 4-1 or 6-2, I won't chase the losses the next day. That could help if one team happens to go under 4 in a row. I know that I'll be leaving some money on the table, but it might keep me from big chase losses later.
    I've actually considered doing this as well. I think the first time I end up taking a loss on the system (which I define as 5L in a row) I may switch to this logic as well. For now, I'm enjoying all the unit wins.

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    8-1 with 2 games pending. System up 358 units this year, no losses (given that I'm running 5 game chases)

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    10-1 night! Success! Here's a link to an updated, improved spreadsheet with some more statistics included.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...rive_web#gid=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcava View Post
    10-1 night! Success! Here's a link to an updated, improved spreadsheet with some more statistics included.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...rive_web#gid=0
    Thanks for sharing. I officially jumped aboard tonight, and it was a great way to start.

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    10-1 night....eh....so so i guess

    Tx kcava for putting up the additional stats on the spreadsheet...gonna make decisions way easier when we need to redistribute lost units to other teams

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    Last night i played under on all games except for the Ranger game, i left that one alone. Last night my unit was 15.00, i have played more. Only lose were the Caps. I risked 283.50, lost 26.25 on the Caps and my profit was 108.75. I have won every night i have used this system...It works...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyRocks View Post
    Last night i played under on all games except for the Ranger game, i left that one alone. Last night my unit was 15.00, i have played more. Only lose were the Caps. I risked 283.50, lost 26.25 on the Caps and my profit was 108.75. I have won every night i have used this system...It works...
    Yay!

    Are you chasing your losses or just taking the wins as they come on a nightly basis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcava View Post
    Yay!

    Are you chasing your losses or just taking the wins as they come on a nightly basis?
    Just taking the wins on a nightly basis...I am on the 3 unders this evening..

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyRocks View Post
    Just taking the wins on a nightly basis...I am on the 3 unders this evening..
    I'll be doing the same. The 10-1 day was great, so I won't be chasing for that one unit.

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