1. #141
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    Anything for today?

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    Wallco NHL GOLD
    2011-12 System to date: 18-4 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: -46.03 units(finished series)
    Current open series: 0

    (11/3/11):
    #17 L.A. Kings (M/L) (C) - Loss
    #18 Detroit (M/L) v2 (C) - Loss
    #21 New Jersey (+1½) v2 (A) - Win
    #22 Nashville (+1½) (A) - Win


    v1 Plays
    (A) 8-6
    (B) 4-2

    (C) 0-2
    Losses: Ottawa (-10.96 u), Edmonton (-14.96 u)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 5-3
    (B) 1-2

    (C) 0-2
    Losses: Montreal (-18.60 u), Detroit (-19.51 u)


    Games for (11/4/11):
    #23 Montreal @ Ottawa (+1½) (A) (7:35 pm EDT)
    #24 Chicago @ Tampa Bay (M/L) (A) (7:35 pm EDT)


    ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
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    wallco, just looking to have some conversation about what we are seeing here. when doing the backtests, did the losses occur in the beginning of the season as we are seeing here or did they occur towards the end? if this is consistent with the backtests, then it is no time to panic, but if your backtests show that we can expect another 6-10 losses towards the 2nd half of the season then it might be time to cut and run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by on3 View Post
    wallco, just looking to have some conversation about what we are seeing here. when doing the backtests, did the losses occur in the beginning of the season as we are seeing here or did they occur towards the end? if this is consistent with the backtests, then it is no time to panic, but if your backtests show that we can expect another 6-10 losses towards the 2nd half of the season then it might be time to cut and run.
    That above post wasn't about you, I guess you knew that. I don't get the cartoon, but I guess it has some relevance or you probably wouldn't have posted it. Please explain. The losses are usually spread out. However, there were a couple seasons with multiple losses in November, not 4 losses, but still, more than one. 2005-06 had several more early losses than the other seasons. It did lose that year, but not much by the end. That season just continued to lose the whole way through, have to hope it won't happen that way again.

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    Ott is -340 on the PL. I can't do that.

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    Some of these are pretty expensive for the early going. Fortunately, they have mostly been on (A) bets. I will die with the ship!!!!!!

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    off topic but will you be doing a similar thread when/if NBA starts? I'll probably tail you on that if you do it.

    I'll just watch this NHL one to see how it turns out though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riceboi View Post
    off topic but will you be doing a similar thread when/if NBA starts? I'll probably tail you on that if you do it.

    I'll just watch this NHL one to see how it turns out though.
    If I don't do my own, It will probably be in the JM NBA thread again.

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    Nice 2-0 night, Will we continue with Fade Oilers since they have won 3 new games?

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    Wallco NHL GOLD
    2011-12 System to date: 20-4 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: -44.03 units (finished series)
    Current open series: 0

    (11/4/11):
    #23 Ottawa (+1½) (A) - Win
    #24 Tampa Bay (M/L) (A) - Win

    v1 Plays
    (A) 10-6
    (B) 4-2
    (C) 0-2
    Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 5-3
    (B) 1-2
    (C) 0-2
    Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)


    Games for (11/5/11):
    #25 Edmonton @ Phoenix (M/L) (A) (10:05 pm EDT)
    #26 St. Louis (+1½) @ Minnesota (A) (8:05 pm EDT)
    #27 Anaheim @ Detroit (M/L) v2 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
    #28 Pittsburgh @ L.A. Kings (M/L) v2 (A) (10:35 pm EDT)


    ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
    Last edited by Wallco99; 11-05-11 at 09:37 AM.
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    Great work wallco
    Thanx

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    2011-12 System to date: 23-4 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: -41.03 units(finished series)
    Current open series: 1 (-1.25 units)

    (11/5/11):
    #25 Phoenix (M/L) (A) - Win
    #26 St. Louis (+1½) (A) - Win
    #27 Detroit (M/L) v2 (A) - Win
    #28 L.A. Kings (M/L) v2 (A) - Loss

    v1 Plays
    (A) 12-6
    (B) 4-2
    (C) 0-2
    Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 6-4
    (B) 1-2
    (C) 0-2
    Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)


    Games for (11/6/11):
    #28 Resumes (B) on 11/7/11
    #29 Winnipeg (+1½) @ N.Y. Rangers (A) (7:05 pm EST)


    ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
    Last edited by Wallco99; 11-06-11 at 10:53 AM.

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    Nice call on the RedWings last night buddy...made all my money back and then some from that RedWings meltdown last week...Keep up your winning ways.

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    Test
    Last edited by Wallco99; 11-07-11 at 08:26 AM.

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    Time to get it back

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    Los +1.5 is a B bet today, right?

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    Wallco NHL GOLD
    2011-12 System to date: 23-4 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: -41.03 units(finished series)
    Current open series: 2 (-3.25 units)

    (11/6/11):
    #29 Winnipeg (+1½) (A) - Loss

    v1 Plays
    (A) 12-7
    (B) 4-2
    (C) 0-2
    Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 6-4
    (B) 1-2
    (C) 0-2
    Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)


    Games for (11/7/11):
    #28 L.A. Kings (+1½) @ San Jose v2 (B) (10:35 pm EDT)
    #29 Resumes (B) on 11/9/11


    ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
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    Let's cash this!

    With that kind of juice, I don't want to see a C bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxi_EV View Post
    Let's cash this!

    With that kind of juice, I don't want to see a C bet.

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    Wallco NHL GOLD
    2011-12 System to date: 23-4 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: -41.03 units(finished series)
    Current open series: 2 (-8.88 units)

    (11/7/11):
    #28 L.A. Kings (+1½) v2 (B) - Loss

    v1 Plays
    (A) 12-7
    (B) 4-2
    (C) 0-2
    Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 6-4
    (B) 1-3
    (C) 0-2
    Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)


    Games for (11/8/11):
    #28 Nashville @ L.A. Kings (M/L) v2 (C) (10:35 pm EST)
    #29 Resumes (B) on 11/9/11
    #30 Dallas @ Washington (M/L) (A) (7:05 pm EST)


    ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
    Last edited by Wallco99; 11-08-11 at 04:07 PM.
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    Hello! Just came back from a HUGE vacation. Just checking in and saying thanks Wallco for all your work!

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    Washington should be #30 , right?

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    Let's go Kings!

    BOL tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxi_EV View Post
    Washington should be #30 , right?
    Correct, sorry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Green View Post
    Let's go Kings!

    BOL tonight

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    Looking good...

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    Wallco NHL GOLD
    2011-12 System to date: 24-4 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: -40.03 units(finished series)
    Current open series: 2 (-3.55 units)

    (11/8/11):
    #28 L.A. Kings (M/L) v2 (C) - Win

    v1 Plays
    (A) 12-8
    (B) 4-2

    (C) 0-2
    Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 6-4
    (B) 1-3

    (C) 1-2
    Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)


    Games for (11/9/11):
    #29 N.Y. Rangers @ Ottawa (+1½) (B) (7:35 pm EST)
    #30 Resumes (B) on 11/11/11


    ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.

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    -40 units....

    unless there's a major winning streak coming in...this system is doomed this year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyPicks View Post
    -40 units....

    unless there's a major winning streak coming in...this system is doomed this year!

    The system has around 200 plays and were about 30 plays in, plenty of time to get to the positive. At least that C bet hit last night lol

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    Mm, really nice juice tonight if it stays at +1,5 game...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyPicks View Post
    -40 units....

    unless there's a major winning streak coming in...this system is doomed this year!
    Past seasons shown that it can handle an average of 9 losses per year and still show an average profit of 70 units per year.

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    But that must also depend on how the losses were, i mean, 9 losses is 27 games, if all this 27 games were +1,5 games, its really tough to save that season, i don know how many of this losses that can be PL games and still be a plus season with 9 losses.. Im i right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knugen View Post
    But that must also depend on how the losses were, i mean, 9 losses is 27 games, if all this 27 games were +1,5 games, its really tough to save that season, i don know how many of this losses that can be PL games and still be a plus season with 9 losses.. Im i right?
    Yeah, I understand. Maybe Wallco has this info. What % of losses are on favs and what % on dogs.

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    It is far from over. Each losses has cost us 16 units on average. If we add 5 more series losses to reach 9 (average per season), we add a 80 units loss to our -40 record. That brings us to -120 units in losses. Can we WIN more than 120 series until the end of the season. My answer is YES....

    ...with good banktoll management of course!

    We average 235 wins per season. We have already won 24.
    Last edited by Maxi_EV; 11-09-11 at 03:00 PM.

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