Talking about the whole hostile, unfriendly, and unhelpful place. At the beginning I used to think that it was just the fact that the average poster here is smarter and consequently, has a bigger ego than people from players talk. But as I learned more, I realized that most winning sports bettors are greedy and selfish.
You know how they say, "The nicer the man, the worse the card player." I believe that is true for any gambler, which means I'll probably never be a great gambler. It's very hard for me to understand how people are able to be a member of a forum and at the same time be unwilling to provide any help to a fellow gambler. I believe it is a responsibility of a good citizen to try to educate everyone in society so that we can move forward as a group, not only as individuals. But then again most of you are sick fuks.
A lot of people take the approach of why should they give away their knowledge when they acquired their knowledge themselves. I'm sorry but all those classes that you took were taught by people that helped you learn. Even if you are "self taught", you read books, articles, journals, that were written by someone who shared their knowledge with you, so when you take the "Nobody game me anything, why should I?" approach, not only are you being selfish, you are also lying.
Now to cover both sides of the story, I also have to mention what happened to me last year. I have always posted my plays in the subforums. I keep a season long thread where I post my plays, and track my W-L and units. I did some really stupid shit when I started (JM chase system), but I have always tried to look a little further. More importantly, I have always listened to anyone that's nice enough to teach me something. So I got better and realized that was dumb, but I also realized that not all of it was dumb. So I started playing only the side of it that was +EV, sure enough the units started piling on and people started noticing the thread. Bunch of followers started playing and making money. Some people asked how I was coming up with the plays and of course I explained in detail. Long story short, the books caught on and the edge was gone.
Around that same time the Costa Rica Bash was taking place. There was a poster who I know for a fact made a killing on those plays who attended the event. In the whole weekend I was there he didn't even introduce himself. If it had been me who had made all that money thanks to him I would have taken the dude on an epic party down in CR on my dime. It's called gratitude, but apparently not all parents teach that to their children. Shit, even a hand shake "My name is -----" would have sufficed. I wasn't looking for a "comission", different posters here have offered me $ for my plays, an I have never taken a cent from anyone. It's just that it is disheartening to go through an experience like that. Not so much for the money making opportunity that dried up (I'm not greedy), but because of the attitude of some people.
So I understand why most of the sharp people here keep their knowledge to themselves. I just can't see myself doing the same thing. A big part of my satisfaction when I make money is knowing other people tailed.
So for those of you that don't share anything at the think tank, you are either a parasite looking for someone to share while you contribute nothing, or you are here to screw people up on purpose. In both cases you are fuked up in my book.
P.S. Not all sharp people are selfish and condescending. And not all followers are ungrateful. Some of you guys act like human beings, please don't take offense. This message was directed to the sociopaths.
You know how they say, "The nicer the man, the worse the card player." I believe that is true for any gambler, which means I'll probably never be a great gambler. It's very hard for me to understand how people are able to be a member of a forum and at the same time be unwilling to provide any help to a fellow gambler. I believe it is a responsibility of a good citizen to try to educate everyone in society so that we can move forward as a group, not only as individuals. But then again most of you are sick fuks.
A lot of people take the approach of why should they give away their knowledge when they acquired their knowledge themselves. I'm sorry but all those classes that you took were taught by people that helped you learn. Even if you are "self taught", you read books, articles, journals, that were written by someone who shared their knowledge with you, so when you take the "Nobody game me anything, why should I?" approach, not only are you being selfish, you are also lying.
Now to cover both sides of the story, I also have to mention what happened to me last year. I have always posted my plays in the subforums. I keep a season long thread where I post my plays, and track my W-L and units. I did some really stupid shit when I started (JM chase system), but I have always tried to look a little further. More importantly, I have always listened to anyone that's nice enough to teach me something. So I got better and realized that was dumb, but I also realized that not all of it was dumb. So I started playing only the side of it that was +EV, sure enough the units started piling on and people started noticing the thread. Bunch of followers started playing and making money. Some people asked how I was coming up with the plays and of course I explained in detail. Long story short, the books caught on and the edge was gone.
Around that same time the Costa Rica Bash was taking place. There was a poster who I know for a fact made a killing on those plays who attended the event. In the whole weekend I was there he didn't even introduce himself. If it had been me who had made all that money thanks to him I would have taken the dude on an epic party down in CR on my dime. It's called gratitude, but apparently not all parents teach that to their children. Shit, even a hand shake "My name is -----" would have sufficed. I wasn't looking for a "comission", different posters here have offered me $ for my plays, an I have never taken a cent from anyone. It's just that it is disheartening to go through an experience like that. Not so much for the money making opportunity that dried up (I'm not greedy), but because of the attitude of some people.
So I understand why most of the sharp people here keep their knowledge to themselves. I just can't see myself doing the same thing. A big part of my satisfaction when I make money is knowing other people tailed.
So for those of you that don't share anything at the think tank, you are either a parasite looking for someone to share while you contribute nothing, or you are here to screw people up on purpose. In both cases you are fuked up in my book.
P.S. Not all sharp people are selfish and condescending. And not all followers are ungrateful. Some of you guys act like human beings, please don't take offense. This message was directed to the sociopaths.