Following Line Moves?

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  • jolmscheid
    Restricted User
    • 02-20-10
    • 3256

    #1
    Following Line Moves?
    What are peoples experience with following opening line moves? For example, if a line opened at -2 and dropped to -1, would following the movement be profitable?
  • jolmscheid
    Restricted User
    • 02-20-10
    • 3256

    #2
    Thanks in advance as always...I look forward to the replies..
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    • LT Profits
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 10-27-06
      • 90963

      #3
      Just like beating the closing line. If you bet +1 AFTER the move, you'll be close to 50/50.. Key to winning is to beat the move. So do line moves tell you anything? Answer is yes but it's too late to take advantage. (slow moving books anyone?)
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      • jolmscheid
        Restricted User
        • 02-20-10
        • 3256

        #4
        Thanks LT..that makes sense..so how does that work in terms of reverse line movement?
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        • FourLengthsClear
          SBR MVP
          • 12-29-10
          • 3808

          #5
          A bit of homework for yourself might be to look at what happens after the first movement. Is there a tendency for lines to continue to move in the same direction, reverse back or is there no obvious trend/pattern?
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          • illfuuptn
            SBR MVP
            • 03-17-10
            • 1860

            #6
            ^^^
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            • jolmscheid
              Restricted User
              • 02-20-10
              • 3256

              #7
              Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
              A bit of homework for yourself might be to look at what happens after the first movement. Is there a tendency for lines to continue to move in the same direction, reverse back or is there no obvious trend/pattern?
              I think the FIRST movement would indicate sharp money..
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              • hutennis
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 07-11-10
                • 847

                #8
                Originally posted by jolmscheid
                I think the FIRST movement would indicate sharp money...
                ...50% of the time.

                Another 50% is for squares and sharps that are setting up reverse move. LOL

                So go ahead, flip yet another coin and pay commission for privilege.
                Last edited by hutennis; 12-20-11, 10:50 PM.
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                • Masu485
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-14-08
                  • 7700

                  #9
                  Does not work long term. My data has it winning but just barely in the past 8 months, and 50/50 before that. Just try to beat the closing line.
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                  • chunk
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 02-08-11
                    • 808

                    #10
                    IMHO line moves should never factor into your decision making unless you can verify a reason for the move, which in most cases you can't. The only thing you should strive for is the best price possible on a pre-determined play. There are many variations of shenanigans that are moving lines nowadays. Most of this ends up in the 50% graveyard.
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                    • samserif
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 09-19-11
                      • 63

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FourLengthsClear
                      A bit of homework for yourself might be to look at what happens after the first movement. Is there a tendency for lines to continue to move in the same direction, reverse back or is there no obvious trend/pattern?
                      A related question: if closing lines, as a whole, exhibit little bias (i.e., roughly the same number of winners as losers), what about the lines that show a clear trend? Will a line that started at +6/-6 and didn't change have the same distribution of outcomes as a line that started at +8/-8 (or +4/-4) then closed at +6/-6? I think I've seen differences but without running the numbers I'm not confident enough to say.
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