[mikeanite]

i'm not sure if this was ask. In your opinion, and years of experience what made you a better capper?

It could be a system you follow, a big bankroll, consistency with your bets etc etc..

[Dark Horse]

Awareness. The art of being awake to the moment and ability to self-correct quickly.

[tachi]

In your opinion, and years of experience what made you a better capper?

the years of experience.

[mikeanite]

the years of experience.

i rather pass on the years of getting a and just hear about it.

[Jive]

You can't live without the experience. If you "just hear about it," you will be like thousands of people who graduate from business school every year but can't run a lemonade stand. There is a big difference between head knowledge and the real world of capping. Sad, but true!

[mikeanite]

You can't live without the experience. If you "just hear about it," you will be like thousands of people who graduate from business school every year but can't run a lemonade stand. There is a big difference between head knowledge and the real world of capping. Sad, but true!

i rather not have the bumps on the road, but i know i'll have my shares

[Grind-It-Out]

Just like any other career. You go to school first, then you practice in the field, and eventually you're good at your job.

Study first, then take some money and learn as much as you can while losing it, then start winning.

[sandyboy]

very interesting ...like the responses

[Pokerjoe]

Google, read, read, google, read. Seriously, there's a lot of information out there, often buried in threads, but there. Go to the forums and read through the threads, especially the longer ones, because length often means a good back-and-forth got started. I'd name other places to go, but it's rude to do that here. But you can google them, too. Go to the old Fezzik's place, for example (which is now closed, but which I think still has it's archives available).

[element1286]

Just like any other career. You go to school first, then you practice in the field, and eventually you're good at your job.

Study first, then take some money and learn as much as you can while losing it, then start winning.

Well said; I'm in the "practice in the field" portion. Understanding the theory was the easy part, implementing said theory, consistently, is much more difficult.

[cala56]

Try to go against de public bet, is no just fade, is the way to play like a bookie. PLAY LIKE A SPORTBOOK.

[Sawyer]

Improve your money management skills.

[hockey216]

biggest thing - watching lots of game/film.

you cant just read boxscores and pick 60% winners. a picture is worth 1,000 words. and a video is worth a million words. watch all the games every week.

[Wrecktangle]

Working with a large, cross-checked, multi-year data set that has as many data field types as possible especially those that you'd think would have a bearing on a game.

[sandyboy]

it would be wonderful if someone would take you 'under thier wing'...just doesnt work like thatkeep asking ?'s though

[Vegas_bond]

Dont make the same mistake twice; just learn from it and make the adjustments.

[sandyboy]

very good advice

[mikeanite]

i know why i need to be good. i enjoy capping and it makes me want to learn more.

[Salmon Steak]

play a covers league contest to see how you would do with fake money. If you lose a lot of money you are doing it wrong. If you win a lot of money you are doing it right.

[Firefox14]

Google, read, read, google, read. Seriously, there's a lot of information out there, often buried in threads, but there. Go to the forums and read through the threads, especially the longer ones, because length often means a good back-and-forth got started. I'd name other places to go, but it's rude to do that here. But you can google them, too. Go to the old Fezzik's place, for example (which is now closed, but which I think still has it's archives available).

Pokerjoe,

Can you explain why it's rude to name places to go?

[Firefox14]

it would be wonderful if someone would take you 'under thier wing'...just doesnt work like thatkeep asking ?'s though

EXACTLY!!!

Sandyboy,

I asked the same question weeks ago and got murdered in the threads! Yet, while you asked, the same people responded with compassion. Irony at its' finest. I just have to conclude that others want to slow down a good capper when they see one. I'll take it as a compliment. Best of luck.

[Firefox14]

play a covers league contest to see how you would do with fake money. If you lose a lot of money you are doing it wrong. If you win a lot of money you are doing it right.

Good advice Salmon

[Flight]

Read Stanford Wong's book.

Then read more books.

I gambled on sports for 2 years before reading this book. In retrospect, I can't believe I ever laid a cent without understanding these very basic concepts. It's like playing blackjack without following basic strategy; you will just get killed at some horrendous rate like -15% EV. Once you learn basic strategy for sports betting, you reduce your losses and begin thinking mathematically. It won't make you a winner, but you'll be better off than you were firing 10-team parlays into the ocean.

[3MASTER3]

The more you are able to show them you know to win the more the books are going to target you to bring you to your knees and that is why there are no more consistant winners I stress consistant once you are good at this gambling skill you get to go up and down like a yoyoo why because they got the whip once your money has left your pocket and lands on there table and this applies to all gambling venues ie horses,sports,casino once you show the house you can win they get there magicians and maniplulative ways to right down and bring you to your knees an australian pit boss once told me first they get the monkeys to go up the tree if they can that is then we get the gresse out to bring him down,especially now with computers and so on it is impossible to beat them CONSISTANTLY why because they have at there desposole to be able to turn the tables on you like a magic craft and all done in under the glamerious vail, even ROXBOUROUGH once said if any body thinks of making a living betting sports he might as well try to become a rock star he has a much better chance can you imagine this guy was the pioneer of odds making in vegas so he hell he knows what he is talking about, my friends not even a dollar a day is to much if you know how to win you are a cooked goose over the long run they got you qued and squed my father in England made money in the horses back in the 1960 's where there was only guys in coats and cigars wachting you now with todays modernization of computers they are in a back room with state of the art survielance and your being watched and targeted only if you are wining if you are losing they can not give a dam about you but the day the minite the second you win CONSISTANT you are just the same a done duck and then you go on and feel sorry for your self and say I got greddy no my friend they got greddy and manipulated your selections... So play as enterainment as they say you should and give them 1 whole dollar and then kiss it good by, it is the winners they chase not the losers because these games were invented to take from the masses and give to a few super rich hands...look at the owners and the chairmans in these legues all bilionaires and multi milionaires why because they do not need the money but they love the drama to manupulate and bring down the mssses under there very suficitacted vail there is a dark empire and do not ever forget it....cheers remember 1 whole dollar and kiss it good buy....it will never ever come back your way..trust me I know what I am talking about.. 3MASTER3

[mikeanite]

The more you are able to show them you know to win the more the books are going to target you to bring you to your knees and that is why there are no more consistant winners I stress consistant once you are good at this gambling skill you get to go up and down like a yoyoo why because they got the whip once your money has left your pocket and lands on there table and this applies to all gambling venues ie horses,sports,casino once you show the house you can win they get there magicians and maniplulative ways to right down and bring you to your knees an australian pit boss once told me first they get the monkeys to go up the tree if they can that is then we get the gresse out to bring him down,especially now with computers and so on it is impossible to beat them CONSISTANTLY why because they have at there desposole to be able to turn the tables on you like a magic craft and all done in under the glamerious vail, even ROXBOUROUGH once said if any body thinks of making a living betting sports he might as well try to become a rock star he has a much better chance can you imagine this guy was the pioneer of odds making in vegas so he hell he knows what he is talking about, my friends not even a dollar a day is to much if you know how to win you are a cooked goose over the long run they got you qued and squed my father in England made money in the horses back in the 1960 's where there was only guys in coats and cigars wachting you now with todays modernization of computers they are in a back room with state of the art survielance and your being watched and targeted only if you are wining if you are losing they can not give a dam about you but the day the minite the second you win CONSISTANT you are just the same a done duck and then you go on and feel sorry for your self and say I got greddy no my friend they got greddy and manipulated your selections... So play as enterainment as they say you should and give them 1 whole dollar and then kiss it good by, it is the winners they chase not the losers because these games were invented to take from the masses and give to a few super rich hands...look at the owners and the chairmans in these legues all bilionaires and multi milionaires why because they do not need the money but they love the drama to manupulate and bring down the mssses under there very suficitacted vail there is a dark empire and do not ever forget it....cheers remember 1 whole dollar and kiss it good buy....it will never ever come back your way..trust me I know what I am talking about.. 3MASTER3

wow, that seems kinda harsh. did you start winning and they started manipulating the lines or limit you?

[Pokerjoe]

play a covers league contest to see how you would do with fake money. If you lose a lot of money you are doing it wrong. If you win a lot of money you are doing it right.

This isn't much more sensible than suggesting that someone go play roulette and saying if they lose they're doing it wrong, but if they win they're doing it right.

But playing contests only is great advice for the vast majority of players, for the same reason limiting your action to futures bets is a good idea for most people.

[stevex]

Money management and NEVER EVER Chasing. I can't stress the ladder enough and that comes from personal experience unfortunately. You will kill whatever bankroll you have going if you chase and not use proper money management skills.

[mikeanite]

Money management and NEVER EVER Chasing. I can't stress the ladder enough and that comes from personal experience unfortunately. You will kill whatever bankroll you have going if you chase and not use proper money management skills.

can you give some methods to manage money? i hear just use 5% to each bet. if i don't want to go bankrupt quick, what should i do?

[stevex]

Personally, I use the labby and follow a couple of different systems. Search 'labby' and you'll find plenty of information on what it is and how to use it.

[RJ89]

can you give some methods to manage money? i hear just use 5% to each bet. if i don't want to go bankrupt quick, what should i do?

Honestly I think 5% for each bet is too much.. I think a basic bet should be about 1% of your bankroll, and then go up to 2-4% for stronger plays.. Or just bet 2% on everything if you flat bet..

Say you go on a 6-16 run (which happens to just about everyone once in a while).. If you bet to win 5% of your starting bankroll for each play you would lose 58% of your starting bankroll (assuming each play is at -110). I think this is the main reason why so many new gamblers lose so much of their bankroll..

[BChrisB]

Find the biggest degenerate gambler you can find. Usually, there's one in the family.

Take bets for him. You have to put up the illusion that he's really betting for money. If he wins pay him as if you are running bets for him through your book (but you cannot let him know what your doing, gamblers only lose when they try to win for real.) Every bet he gives you, double or triple up the other way.

You'll win every sport, every season. You can never let him know that the bets aren't real though, then the magic will lose it's power.

[Sawyer]

biggest thing - watching lots of game/film.

you cant just read boxscores and pick 60% winners. a picture is worth 1,000 words. and a video is worth a million words. watch all the games every week.

Watching games/sports is not necessary in my opinion.

[matekus]

There are two basic psychological tendencies you must overcome in order to succeed:

• House Money - Increase risk seeking following prior gains; and
• Break-Even - Select outcomes which offer chance to break-even following prior losses.

matekus

[Grind-It-Out]

The more you are able to show them you know to win the more the books are going to target you to bring you to your knees and that is why there are no more consistant winners I stress consistant once you are good at this gambling skill you get to go up and down like a yoyoo why because they got the whip once your money has left your pocket and lands on there table and this applies to all gambling venues ie horses,sports,casino once you show the house you can win they get there magicians and maniplulative ways to right down and bring you to your knees an australian pit boss once told me first they get the monkeys to go up the tree if they can that is then we get the gresse out to bring him down,especially now with computers and so on it is impossible to beat them CONSISTANTLY why because they have at there desposole to be able to turn the tables on you like a magic craft and all done in under the glamerious vail, even ROXBOUROUGH once said if any body thinks of making a living betting sports he might as well try to become a rock star he has a much better chance can you imagine this guy was the pioneer of odds making in vegas so he hell he knows what he is talking about, my friends not even a dollar a day is to much if you know how to win you are a cooked goose over the long run they got you qued and squed my father in England made money in the horses back in the 1960 's where there was only guys in coats and cigars wachting you now with todays modernization of computers they are in a back room with state of the art survielance and your being watched and targeted only if you are wining if you are losing they can not give a dam about you but the day the minite the second you win CONSISTANT you are just the same a done duck and then you go on and feel sorry for your self and say I got greddy no my friend they got greddy and manipulated your selections... So play as enterainment as they say you should and give them 1 whole dollar and then kiss it good by, it is the winners they chase not the losers because these games were invented to take from the masses and give to a few super rich hands...look at the owners and the chairmans in these legues all bilionaires and multi milionaires why because they do not need the money but they love the drama to manupulate and bring down the mssses under there very suficitacted vail there is a dark empire and do not ever forget it....cheers remember 1 whole dollar and kiss it good buy....it will never ever come back your way..trust me I know what I am talking about.. 3MASTER3

It's hard to give much credibility to someone who doesn't know what a sentence is.

[Firefox14]

can you give some methods to manage money? i hear just use 5% to each bet. if i don't want to go bankrupt quick, what should i do?

Mikeanite,

Don't ask for too much. You will be condemned unfortunately. I am only speaking from experience.