Why is Parlaying Series onto GM1 not allowed?

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  • saratoga1927
    SBR Sharp
    • 02-06-10
    • 380

    #1
    Why is Parlaying Series onto GM1 not allowed?
    Why is it this book won't allow a parlay of ANY combination of GM1 and the Series?


    Invalid Combination line between:[952] STL GM1 -124 [861] RANGERS SERIES -158

    Invalid Combination line between:[952] STL GM1 -124 [862] CARDINALS SERIES +140

    Invalid Combination line between:[951] TEX GM1 +114 [861] RANGERS SERIES -160

    Invalid Combination line between:[951] TEX GM1 +114 [862] CARDINALS SERIES +140

    I understand why they won't allow like teams onto like teams, but with opposites I don't see the edge for player.
    What am I missing?
  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #2
    It is correlated. If a book doesn't take positive correlated parlays, they should not take negative ones as well (to be fair to the player).
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    • durito
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-03-06
      • 13173

      #3
      Originally posted by Justin7
      It is correlated. If a book doesn't take positive correlated parlays, they should not take negative ones as well (to be fair to the player).
      that´s ridiculous. that´s like saying they shouldn´t offer -ev bets.

      they arent offered because the book is either too stupid or lazy to set up the software properly so they just ban all possible parlays between those two markets.
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      • Cicima6709
        SBR MVP
        • 09-12-10
        • 1023

        #4
        if you really want to parlay STL game 1 with TEX series, or vise versa, just make a bet on (for example) STL to win game 1.

        Then take your bet + your winnings, and do double or nothing on the newly produced series price. Its essentially a parlay, and you'd be getting much better odds then had you initially parlayed it anyways.
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        • Justin7
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 07-31-06
          • 8577

          #5
          Originally posted by durito
          that´s ridiculous. that´s like saying they shouldn´t offer -ev bets.

          they arent offered because the book is either too stupid or lazy to set up the software properly so they just ban all possible parlays between those two markets.
          A standard Las Vegas rule is that a book must take action on both sides of a wager. This principle expands to 4 markets in a 2-way parlay. Your suggestion that a book should only take negatively correlated parlays advocates an unethical behavior.

          I suppose you think that all books should also code their software to allow most negatively correlated plays in all sports? Fortunately, none of the top books (or any books that I know of for that matter) agree with your ethical standard.
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          • durito
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-03-06
            • 13173

            #6
            try harder
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            • andywend
              SBR MVP
              • 05-20-07
              • 4805

              #7
              Durito, multiply your intelligence by 100 and you're still not qualified to shine Justin7's shoes.

              As usual, Justin is right and you're wrong.
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              • donjuan
                SBR MVP
                • 08-29-07
                • 3993

                #8
                Originally posted by andywend
                Durito, multiply your intelligence by 100 and you're still not qualified to shine Justin7's shoes.

                As usual, Justin is right and you're wrong.
                lololol
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                • skrtelfan
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-09-08
                  • 1913

                  #9
                  Originally posted by andywend
                  Durito, multiply your intelligence by 100 and you're still not qualified to shine Justin7's shoes.

                  As usual, Justin is right and you're wrong.
                  Spoken by the biggest book shill on the forum.
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                  • Snatch
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 06-10-11
                    • 66

                    #10
                    it's a software issue as well - one can't negate the absolutely corelated Tex,gm1 to TexSeries in the software and allow Stl,gm1(same event) to TexSeries. They could offer it on a hand written ticket i9f they thought you were worth the trouble, but 99.9% aren't.
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                    • d2bets
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 08-10-05
                      • 39995

                      #11
                      1. It's obvious why you can't parlay e.g. STL to win Game 1 with STL to win this series.
                      2. It should be obvious why you would not want to parlay e.g. STL to win Game 1 with TEX to win the series.

                      To wit, what is the point of this question?
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                      • RickySteve
                        Restricted User
                        • 01-31-06
                        • 3415

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Justin7
                        A standard Las Vegas rule is that a book must take action on both sides of a wager. This principle expands to 4 markets in a 2-way parlay. Your suggestion that a book should only take negatively correlated parlays advocates an unethical behavior.

                        I suppose you think that all books should also code their software to allow most negatively correlated plays in all sports? Fortunately, none of the top books (or any books that I know of for that matter) agree with your ethical standard.
                        Respectfully, you are wrong on this point. Cantor and Pinnacle (used to, could have changed?) both allow negatively correlated parlays on markets where the positive counterparts are rejected.

                        I don't see this practice as unethical.
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                        • BigDaddy
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 02-01-06
                          • 8378

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Justin7
                          A standard Las Vegas rule is that a book must take action on both sides of a wager. This principle expands to 4 markets in a 2-way parlay. Your suggestion that a book should only take negatively correlated parlays advocates an unethical behavior.

                          I suppose you think that all books should also code their software to allow most negatively correlated plays in all sports? Fortunately, none of the top books (or any books that I know of for that matter) agree with your ethical standard.
                          A+ book up top blocks all positive CP's

                          but they allow the the negative ones.

                          should we discuss this?

                          i can show proof
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                          • RickySteve
                            Restricted User
                            • 01-31-06
                            • 3415

                            #14
                            If I ever feel like getting arrested again, maybe I will file a NGC complaint against Cantor on this issue.
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                            • durito
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-03-06
                              • 13173

                              #15
                              i just tried some at pinny that were blocked, but i know they took em as recently as last year.
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                              • durito
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-03-06
                                • 13173

                                #16
                                Originally posted by andywend
                                Durito, multiply your intelligence by 100 and you're still not qualified to shine Justin7's shoes.

                                As usual, Justin is right and you're wrong.

                                have you ever been right about anything?
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                                • Not Matt Rain
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 07-05-10
                                  • 47

                                  #17
                                  Leaders from all industries look up to bookies as beacons of ethical behavior.

                                  Such cynicism, dorito.
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                                  • Justin7
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 07-31-06
                                    • 8577

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by RickySteve
                                    Respectfully, you are wrong on this point. Cantor and Pinnacle (used to, could have changed?) both allow negatively correlated parlays on markets where the positive counterparts are rejected.

                                    I don't see this practice as unethical.
                                    Can you give me an example at Pinnacle? I have never seen this available.
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                                    • durito
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 07-03-06
                                      • 13173

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BigDaddy
                                      A+ book up top blocks all positive CP's

                                      but they allow the the negative ones.

                                      should we discuss this?

                                      i can show proof

                                      yes, i found this book too.
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                                      • durito
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 07-03-06
                                        • 13173

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Justin7
                                        Can you give me an example at Pinnacle? I have never seen this available.
                                        it used to be all of them. now i dont see it.

                                        nevertheless there is another a+ advertiser that allows it right now
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                                        • uva3021
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 03-01-07
                                          • 537

                                          #21
                                          why would you want to do this anyway, since Texas lost their WS price will drop about 10-15%
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                                          • RickySteve
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 01-31-06
                                            • 3415

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Justin7
                                            Can you give me an example at Pinnacle? I have never seen this available.
                                            Um, no thanks. As I said, they might have changed their policy regarding this.

                                            Unfortunately I can say with absolute certainty this is happening in LV at this moment...elohel sh tty runners.
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                                            • BigDaddy
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 02-01-06
                                              • 8378

                                              #23
                                              this thread died real quick.
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                                              • BigDaddy
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 02-01-06
                                                • 8378

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Justin7
                                                It is correlated. If a book doesn't take positive correlated parlays, they should not take negative ones as well (to be fair to the player).

                                                well today i can bet +13.5 OV26 / -13.5 U26 1st half parlays

                                                but i can't bet the other 2 combos

                                                this is at the most respected book in the world most would say

                                                jeez
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                                                • Justin7
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 07-31-06
                                                  • 8577

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by BigDaddy
                                                  well today i can bet +13.5 OV26 / -13.5 U26 1st half parlays

                                                  but i can't bet the other 2 combos

                                                  this is at the most respected book in the world most would say

                                                  jeez
                                                  Hmm. I confirmed that you can bet the bad pair, but not the good pair at Bookmaker. That's pretty shitty.
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                                                  • durito
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 07-03-06
                                                    • 13173

                                                    #26
                                                    i´m shocked, you find the other A+ book that allows these yet?
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