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  • TxPilot
    SBR Rookie
    • 06-30-11
    • 21

    #1
    my trick
    does anyone eles do this....

    Bet live on outcome of games, and when when one side is a "plus" (underdog) put money on them and then when the momentum swings the other way put the same ammount of money on the new underdog. Guarentee to win money! probably not alot but this is really easy money and in tennis there is a good chance in momentum swings...
  • luegofuego
    SBR Hustler
    • 06-16-10
    • 96

    #2
    lol
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    • gregm
      SBR MVP
      • 03-14-11
      • 3535

      #3
      This thread is why so many sportsbooks love live wagering. You can juice both sides of the line with a foolish price many times during a tennis match and still have action junkies wagering like an addict looking for a fix. At least this has been my experience with the lines in the sportsbooks available to Americans.

      Live wagering on tennis may be great if you have access to euro /australian/asian books, but the variety of live lines offered in tennis by offshores is pretty subpar in my experience .
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      • strixee
        SBR Sharp
        • 05-31-10
        • 432

        #4
        Oh, that's really a great trick
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        • usernametaken
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 02-08-11
          • 514

          #5
          does the momentum always swing the other way?
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          • dendimurah
            Restricted User
            • 05-19-11
            • 46

            #6
            can you give a specific example?
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            • donkson
              SBR Sharp
              • 03-12-11
              • 411

              #7
              Originally posted by gregm
              This thread is why so many sportsbooks love live wagering. You can juice both sides of the line with a foolish price many times during a tennis match and still have action junkies wagering like an addict looking for a fix.
              Did you even read his post?
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              • bettorjon
                Restricted User
                • 10-08-10
                • 613

                #8
                so underdogs are also being jucied?

                i dont understand american odds but in decimal odds, it can be done.

                ex not real odds:

                prior to start of match
                tsonga 5.10 $100
                federer 1.10

                in game 5th set with tsonga leading
                tsonga 1.3
                federer 2.90 $100

                bet tsonga prior then bet fed in game. for sure youll have profit whatever the outcome of this match.

                tsonga wins, youll have $410
                federer wins, youll get $190

                cant understand why there are haters here. the OP has a point. i do this from time to time in soccer games o/u2.5
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                • CHUBNUT
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 06-30-09
                  • 321

                  #9
                  betting live is a nonsense unless you have your prices mapped out earlier. EG Football have the number of drives with the various scores priced up for easy reference along with whether those drives are going over or under the perceived time.
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                  • bztips
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 06-03-10
                    • 283

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bettorjon
                    so underdogs are also being jucied?

                    i dont understand american odds but in decimal odds, it can be done.

                    ex not real odds:

                    prior to start of match
                    tsonga 5.10 $100
                    federer 1.10

                    in game 5th set with tsonga leading
                    tsonga 1.3
                    federer 2.90 $100

                    bet tsonga prior then bet fed in game. for sure youll have profit whatever the outcome of this match.

                    tsonga wins, youll have $410
                    federer wins, youll get $190

                    cant understand why there are haters here. the OP has a point. i do this from time to time in soccer games o/u2.5
                    That's fine, but what happened is VERY unusual -- most of the time Federer wins in straight sets and you lose your Tsonga bet. Just betting on Tsonga at the start (without even considering whether that's a +EV bet), and hoping that later on in the match there's a momentum swing so that you can bet on Federer and lock in a profit, is not a long-term winning strategy.
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                    • bettorjon
                      Restricted User
                      • 10-08-10
                      • 613

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bztips
                      That's fine, but what happened is VERY unusual -- most of the time Federer wins in straight sets and you lose your Tsonga bet. Just betting on Tsonga at the start (without even considering whether that's a +EV bet), and hoping that later on in the match there's a momentum swing so that you can bet on Federer and lock in a profit, is not a long-term winning strategy.
                      im just giving this as an example since the OP mentioned tennis.

                      soccer total of o/u2.5 is the best option for his "trick" imo.

                      btw, another upset happened in the wtp wimbeldon finals so underdogs winning is not VERY unusual in tennis.
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                      • a4u2fear
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-29-10
                        • 8147

                        #12
                        Originally posted by bettorjon
                        so underdogs are also being jucied?

                        i dont understand american odds but in decimal odds, it can be done.

                        ex not real odds:

                        prior to start of match
                        tsonga 5.10 $100
                        federer 1.10

                        in game 5th set with tsonga leading
                        tsonga 1.3
                        federer 2.90 $100

                        bet tsonga prior then bet fed in game. for sure youll have profit whatever the outcome of this match.

                        tsonga wins, youll have $410
                        federer wins, youll get $190

                        cant understand why there are haters here. the OP has a point. i do this from time to time in soccer games o/u2.5
                        and if Federer leads the whole match then what? Loss.
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                        • bettorjon
                          Restricted User
                          • 10-08-10
                          • 613

                          #13
                          Originally posted by a4u2fear
                          and if Federer leads the whole match then what? Loss.

                          obviously.

                          but he lost right? so whats the point of making that comment.
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                          • 4TH AND STUPID
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-08-09
                            • 2349

                            #14
                            despite any hate that you receive in this thread, i believe that your thread and post is solid.

                            so to answer your question, yes, there are people who do this, including myself. as long as you understand the sport that you are wagering, really well, you will know when to "buy low / sell high" . just like the stock market, if you know what youre doing, you will win using your 'method'
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                            • bettorjon
                              Restricted User
                              • 10-08-10
                              • 613

                              #15
                              its just funny how other people react right away without even understanding what the OP was saying. the one who said that underdogs are being juiced is classic
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                              • hutennis
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 07-11-10
                                • 847

                                #16
                                Originally posted by bettorjon
                                its just funny how other people react right away without even understanding what the OP was saying. the one who said that underdogs are being juiced is classic
                                And you don't agree? That's funny.

                                Please, let me enlighten you a little.

                                Betting on favs you are overcharged. Betting on dogs you are underpaid.
                                So yes, either way you are being juiced.

                                If this basic concept is kinda news to you...
                                Well, whatever...
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                                • bettorjon
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 10-08-10
                                  • 613

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by hutennis
                                  And you don't agree? That's funny.

                                  Please, let me enlighten you a little.

                                  Betting on favs you are overcharged. Betting on dogs you are underpaid.
                                  So yes, either way you are being juiced.

                                  If this basic concept is kinda news to you...
                                  Well, whatever...
                                  betting on dogs get me underpaid? how? explain
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                                  • Duff85
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 06-15-10
                                    • 2920

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by bettorjon
                                    betting on dogs get me underpaid? how? explain
                                    Read about overround and theoretical hold.

                                    While I can't confirm this with any substantial testing or experience - I have a hunch that the in-play hedging strategy mentioned by the OP - would take bets that were +EV at the time and dramatically reduce their value.

                                    I would expect that it is seldom a profitable strategy, except when it is used in specific situations by experienced handicappers.
                                    Last edited by Duff85; 07-05-11, 08:18 AM.
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                                    • Tomahawk
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 04-24-10
                                      • 358

                                      #19
                                      Yeah, but if momentum swing doesn't happen you're fu..ed.

                                      You bet on underdog and if it stays underdog until the end of the match then you lose the bet.
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                                      • SharpAsASkunk
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 11-03-10
                                        • 18

                                        #20
                                        Originally Posted by bettorjon betting on dogs get me underpaid? how? explain Juice is distributed according to how heavy the favourite is. On a -200 / +180 line, the favourite price includes a 1.55% juice and the underdog has a 0.83% juice. On a -150 / +136 line, the favourite price includes a 1.39% juice and the underdog has a 0.98% juice.
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                                        • That Foreign Guy
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 07-18-10
                                          • 432

                                          #21
                                          I also like betting on underdogs who take the lead in a match.
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                                          • bettorjon
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 10-08-10
                                            • 613

                                            #22
                                            we have our own opinion guys, our own approach.

                                            at the end of the day, the system, strategy or whatever we use that brings us +profit every single day
                                            is the most important thing in our life as a gambler.

                                            peace out and good luck to all of your plays
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                                            • sharpcat
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 12-19-09
                                              • 4516

                                              #23
                                              Should rename the think tank to "I think if....tank" this place has really gone downhill.
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                                              • bztips
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 06-03-10
                                                • 283

                                                #24
                                                Yep, pretty pathetic. But hey, as the guy said, peace out
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                                                • DRZ
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 02-24-10
                                                  • 918

                                                  #25
                                                  ive never been particularily good at live betting. same with half time bets. i try to stay away from them if possible. but hard to some time. especially with nba totals.
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