[jjgold]

once its a pay service most gamblers will flee

[KiDBaZkiT]

Spanky is an OG in the game he is legit BUT free? Idn man will see about that.

Spanky def an OG.

[jjgold]

He’s not gonna get any USA books to advertise because of all the offshore places he has on that screen

He’s anti-USA books anyway which is good

[d2bets]

If in fact it's a great product, starting free is brilliant

Get everyone to use it. Word of mouth. They soon learn they can't live without. And then introduce the price. They'll already know it's worth it, so they'll pay for it.

But it all hinges on whether they have Pinnacle and Bookmaker real-time. If they have that, then they have the keys to the castle. Without it, it's a dime a dozen.

[Brooklyn Dick]

Or Bookmaker. They were on a two minute delay with everyone else.

Bookmaker has different lines for different players. Not possible to have a Real Line from Bookmaker/Betcris.

[texhooper]

From what I know about this product it’s what Spanky uses himself so it’ll likely be awesome and have current odds from everywhere worth a damn. And it probably won’t be free long and will likely be a play for him to get an income stream without the hassle of having to run his current business and constantly recruit his “betting partners” and all that shit. So I definitely wouldn’t expect it to be free for too long. Just long enough to show people it’s worth it. That’s my best guess on all this

[d2bets]

From what I know about this product it’s what Spanky uses himself so it’ll likely be awesome and have current odds from everywhere worth a damn. And it probably won’t be free long and will likely be a play for him to get an income stream without the hassle of having to run his current business and constantly recruit his “betting partners” and all that shit. So I definitely wouldn’t expect it to be free for too long. Just long enough to show people it’s worth it. That’s my best guess on all this

If it has Pinnacle real-time, it will make Don Best obsolete.

[texhooper]

If it has Pinnacle real-time, it will make Don Best obsolete.

That’s honestly probably the idea. I know he has real time pinny odds for his personal use, or at least he says he does, but not sure what he can get away with selling though. Like as in I’m not sure why his product could have those odds and no one else can seem to, but whatever. We’ll see I guess

[peacebyinches]

This definitely seems like a promising tool. First of all, that's some valuable information to know about how the market is moving in general. Second, if you are trying to arbitrage and don't realize that you are not going to be able to place the appropriate amount on one site then all of a sudden your arbitrage turns into a weird hedge. I am shocked sometimes at how low the limits can be at certain books, even on major sports like MLB and NBA, which has scared me away from arbitraging a few times just because I'm unsure if I'll be allowed to place the necessary amount to complete the arbitrage opportunity. In the rare cases where the arb. opportunity appears you want to maximize that payout.

[Roscoe_Word]

This is like waiting for the new Iphone to come out.

[jjgold]

This guy knows every bookmaker in world

Massive advantage

[texhooper]

This is like waiting for the new Iphone to come out.

No shit hahaha…what scares me though is getting hooked on it then he starts charging the price of an iPhone for it every month

[Roscoe_Word]

Got a better look at it today from his promo on twitter.

Looks very good, with that "Don Best" like screen and many features.

Should be a good help providing its cost is reasonable.

The Big Two prices are, I think:

Don Best $500/ month
SportsInsights $125/month

IMHO, otta reach for the ave. Joe.

I guess the price is gonna be the determining factor for many rec players.

[SlickFazzer]

Got a better look at it today from his promo on twitter.

Looks very good, with that "Don Best" like screen and many features.

Should be a good help providing its cost is reasonable.

The Big Two prices are, I think:

Don Best $500/ month
SportsInsights $125/month

IMHO, otta reach for the ave. Joe.

I guess the price is gonna be the determining factor for many rec players.

I did notice the very similar look to DB, which is basically the old Sports Options from when they merged.

Wonder if somehow Spanky just scraped the entire DB screen and added a few new features?

[Roscoe_Word]

I did notice the very similar look to DB, which is basically the old Sports Options from when they merged.

Wonder if somehow Spanky just scraped the entire DB screen and added a few new features?

Don't know, brother.....as Judge Smails might say: "Well....we're waiting."......

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Got a better look at it today from his promo on twitter.

Looks very good, with that "Don Best" like screen and many features.

Should be a good help providing its cost is reasonable.

The Big Two prices are, I think:

Don Best $500/ month
SportsInsights $125/month

IMHO, otta reach for the ave. Joe.

I guess the price is gonna be the determining factor for many rec players.

How many people really subscribe to DB? And if so, how many turn a profit?

Isn't steam-betting a sure way to get booted off a betting site?

[texhooper]

Isn't steam-betting a sure way to get booted off a betting site?

Yes. The gentleman who created this screen has to use accounts from others who he calls “betting partners” and I think they split everything 50/50 until they get booted. He’s got multiple betting partners with multiple accounts at all times. Which is why I am thinking he’s looking into marketing his screen because that’s just gotta be a royal pain in the ass to constantly have to come up with new accounts/partners

[Roscoe_Word]

How many people really subscribe to DB? And if so, how many turn a profit?

Isn't steam-betting a sure way to get booted off a betting site?

Yeah, pretty sure it is, Chuck.

My guess is about, oh, 25% of our members might subscribe to DB...the heavy hitters.

One would have to be pretty good to "beat the vig" and the $500 a month cost. (might only be 1 unit for some)

I suppose its always good to see if one's potential bet accords with a steamer.

Might get off of a good number of losers.....

[BrickJames]

How many people really subscribe to DB? And if so, how many turn a profit?

Isn't steam-betting a sure way to get booted off a betting site?

When I used to subscribe to Don best about 12 years ago I was betting Steam I never got banned or limited but they were lagging me at a couple different books, like a 45 second lag to let the lines catch up.

[gauchojake]

looks pretty good

[Roscoe_Word]

When I used to subscribe to Don best about 12 years ago I was betting Steam I never got banned or limited but they were lagging me at a couple different books, like a 45 second lag to let the lines catch up.

wow....didn't know that shit was goin on back then....fagetaboutit.......

[KVB]

The more widely it's used the easier it will be to manipulate the market and the bettors...this is good for some of us, but bad for nearly all the rest of you.

I doubt anyone in this thread will see it coming...lol.

Remember, it's not the info, it's how you use it.

[KVB]

Yes. The gentleman who created this screen has to use accounts from others who he calls “betting partners” and I think they split everything 50/50 until they get booted. He’s got multiple betting partners with multiple accounts at all times. Which is why I am thinking he’s looking into marketing his screen because that’s just gotta be a royal pain in the ass to constantly have to come up with new accounts/partners

I just added 18 new accounts 3 weeks ago, from a wedding I went to.

These are not topics for SBR though.

[jjgold]

KVB You should write fictional novels you would be tremendous

I mean when I met you at the bash and you were telling me When you were trapped at Mount Everest on a climb I just knew you were some character

[KVB]

[CanuckG]

Just told my work to cancel DB. Wasn't worth the 10k/year anymore. Spanky is legit and should be a good service.

[KVB]

I'm just saying that if you don't already know what to do with information like this then getting and having this information is not going to help you.

In fact, we will burn you for the ignorance. You will be even easier to manipulate with this info than you were without, and that was already easy.

Everyone always looking for a shortcut to creating some kind of handicapping or ratings, whether it's for a game or sport, or even just handicapping the market. It's true even for those trying to let the market do the capping for them.

These market participants usually get burned, they turn subjective and can't control their emotions.

It becomes the case where bettors get just enough knowledge to get into trouble, but won't take the extra step to long term winning.

[jjgold]

Good post

In reality a line services just for arbors and steam chasers

And nowadays arbs there’s basically no money chump change

[texhooper]

KVB taking a condescending turn. We are all beneath him and will be manipulated by him. This is his villain origin story

[jjgold]

KVB likes to play riddles although many of us know the answers to the riddles

[KVB]

KVB taking a condescending turn. We are all beneath him and will be manipulated by him. This is his villain origin story

Just saying to be cautious, things are often not what they seem in the marketplace. There are games within games. Make no mistake.

[KVB]

KVB likes to play riddles although many of us know the answers to the riddles

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[Brooklyn Dick]

That’s honestly probably the idea. I know he has real time pinny odds for his personal use, or at least he says he does, but not sure what he can get away with selling though. Like as in I’m not sure why his product could have those odds and no one else can seem to, but whatever. We’ll see I guess

Anyone who has an account with Pinnacle has real time pinny odds. Not too difficult to have. And it is also possible to get Pinny odds without logging in to an account.

[texhooper]

Anyone who has an account with Pinnacle has real time pinny odds. Not too difficult to have. And it is also possible to get Pinny odds without logging in to an account.

Right so why do all these services have trouble delivering pinny odds then is what I’m saying. Maybe they threaten legal action? Whatever barriers donbest and others have I’m not sure spanky won’t have to deal with them but I expect it to have real time pinny odds

I also will check pinnacle directly for odds but I do wonder if they’re up to date for a punter like me with no pinny account

[Brooklyn Dick]

Right so why do all these services have trouble delivering pinny odds then is what I’m saying. Maybe they threaten legal action? Whatever barriers donbest and others have I’m not sure spanky won’t have to deal with them but I expect it to have real time pinny odds

I also will check pinnacle directly for odds but I do wonder if they’re up to date for a punter like me with no pinny account

Don Best deals directly with the Sportsbooks. They give them free accounts for this. When a book changes a line it is also changed simultaneously on Don Best. They are not "stealing any lines". Pinnacle cancelled their relationship, as they did not want their lines on Don Best. As Betcris/Bookmaker did.