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    Does Your Bankroll & Betting Size Determine How Good A Handicapper You Are?

    Can a $10 Bettor be as good as a $500+ Bettor?

    If so, then why do some poke fun at others who make very small wagers?

    If you're good, you're good, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Can a $10 Bettor be as good as a $500+ Bettor?

    If so, then why do some poke fun at others who make very small wagers?

    If you're good, you're good, right?
    Good point

    I respect some $50 bettors a lot more than dime bettors

    Size of wager does not matter on how good a guy is

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    H thanks for posting something other than the hate threads that seem to dominate the forum

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    U can be very good, especially if your into modeling or programming and never bet For some it's about beating the game..

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    Why would you bet just $10 if you're good though? Eventually you would build up the roll. If you're truly good and actually winning that is.

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    That being said, not all big bettors are necessarily good since they could be adding to the betting bankroll from other sources.

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    I think people who believe in anyway shape or form are lost
    1. what happened last game other than a injury has something to do with todays game
    2. Any streak or type of streak, "they are hot" "won 6 in a row" any type of that stuff
    3. System bettors who think they somehow have created the ultimate game result forecaster, that is probably the funniest " my system predicts Broncos win 42-20 and the line is Broncos -3 Total 42, LMAO SMH
    4. the guys who "I always win on tuesday when my cat eats fish the night before" and yeah this happens!
    5. Guys who cap 10 games and find 7 bets in 10 games! avg "real" capper needs 20 games to find 1, 5%ish roughly
    6 handicap things that dont mean shit example ok here Warriors beat the Cavaliers 120-100 last game so the total on the next game is 205 it has to be over they scored 220 last time and that was yesterday.
    7 Think if you lost the last 20 games in a row you are due. think the same thing about games, Yankees lost 10 in a row they got to win this one or the other way they won 10 in a row so they got to win or lose this one cause of that!

    there is more but I got bored and tired!
    there is only one way we currently have to tell how good a capper is and that is Line value or edge, any other measuring stick has been proven to be flawed. ONE WAY to tell a good capper ONLY dont believe the hype!

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    oh and I forgot a big one
    guys who have a 10 unit play and 1 unit play that is funny too
    bet size means nothing some guys bet 10k a game and suck and some guys bet 25 a game and are super talented! big wallet might mean you got good family or are good at something else but it does not have anything correlation to skill level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Can a $10 Bettor be as good as a $500+ Bettor?

    If so, then why do some poke fun at others who make very small wagers?

    If you're good, you're good, right?
    I say the ratio of your betting size to your annual income can be a good estimate of how good of a bettor you are.
    Cause some can afford to bet more and lose. But if you are good and you're broke ass university student, you will bet more than you can afford, cause you're winning it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicername View Post
    Why would you bet just $10 if you're good though? Eventually you would build up the roll. If you're truly good and actually winning that is.
    you got to understand a sportsbook has 1000s of plays per day and they see their edge really quick, a pro bettor might take a year or longer to get 1000s of bets and that is why its hard to see the edge. They need years to see the fruit of their edge and any fruit they see before 1000s of games is just variance

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    Quote Originally Posted by bozeman View Post
    I say the ratio of your betting size to your annual income can be a good estimate of how good of a bettor you are.
    Cause some can afford to bet more and lose. But if you are good and you're broke ass university student, you will bet more than you can afford, cause you're winning it.
    i think this just shows how big your balls are or AKA dumb you are!

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    small bettors can be good too

    no rule here

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    Quote Originally Posted by danshan11 View Post
    i think this just shows how big your balls are or AKA dumb you are!
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicername View Post
    Why would you bet just $10 if you're good though? Eventually you would build up the roll. If you're truly good and actually winning that is.

    I see your point but it's bases mainly on primary income.

    If a guy can only afford to wager $10 per game, for example, even winning for a full year, how much more can he really afford to increase it? $20?

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    If you are betting 10 game you shouldn’t be betting


    Go buy a lotto ticket instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by danshan11 View Post
    I think people who believe in anyway shape or form are lost
    1. what happened last game other than a injury has something to do with todays game
    2. Any streak or type of streak, "they are hot" "won 6 in a row" any type of that stuff
    3. System bettors who think they somehow have created the ultimate game result forecaster, that is probably the funniest " my system predicts Broncos win 42-20 and the line is Broncos -3 Total 42, LMAO SMH
    4. the guys who "I always win on tuesday when my cat eats fish the night before" and yeah this happens!
    5. Guys who cap 10 games and find 7 bets in 10 games! avg "real" capper needs 20 games to find 1, 5%ish roughly
    6 handicap things that dont mean shit example ok here Warriors beat the Cavaliers 120-100 last game so the total on the next game is 205 it has to be over they scored 220 last time and that was yesterday.
    7 Think if you lost the last 20 games in a row you are due. think the same thing about games, Yankees lost 10 in a row they got to win this one or the other way they won 10 in a row so they got to win or lose this one cause of that!

    there is more but I got bored and tired!
    there is only one way we currently have to tell how good a capper is and that is Line value or edge, any other measuring stick has been proven to be flawed. ONE WAY to tell a good capper ONLY dont believe the hype!
    Great posts Dan

    All of them

    Thread over

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    Easier to make good pick with small wagers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Can a $10 Bettor be as good as a $500+ Bettor?

    If so, then why do some poke fun at others who make very small wagers?

    If you're good, you're good, right?
    yes

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    Different size bankrolls are needed in whatever formula you are using. Everyone loses because of poor bankroll management. Do your best to put the percentages in your favor. Patience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Can a $10 Bettor be as good as a $500+ Bettor?

    If so, then why do some poke fun at others who make very small wagers?

    If you're good, you're good, right?
    They can be much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Can a $10 Bettor be as good as a $500+ Bettor?

    If so, then why do some poke fun at others who make very small wagers?

    If you're good, you're good, right?
    Here's a great example....

    A friend of mine is really good at FREE CONTESTS in sports wagering. He can nail literally close to 65% of his plays. Not kidding.

    But once he puts any of his hard earned $ to place a wager.... guy can't even hit 35% of his plays.

    What's my theory? Once you deal with your hard earned security.... people get too emotional and can't make the right read. Might be easier for someone risking $5.00 a game... than to Risk $500.00
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Here's a great example....

    A friend of mine is really good at FREE CONTESTS in sports wagering. He can nail literally close to 65% of his plays. Not kidding.

    But once he puts any of his hard earned $ to place a wager.... guy can't even hit 35% of his plays.

    What's my theory? Once you deal with your hard earned security.... people get too emotional and can't make the right read. Might be easier for someone risking $5.00 a game... than to Risk $500.00
    I've seen that a lot as well.

    But the bet size thing? I was witness to that at the track for decades as well as games. Bet size had nothing to do with ability from everything I saw. A lot of large bettors were complete fools.

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    No your income determines everything

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    I actually started winning when I decided to lower my bet size. The last time I was betting big, and that means different things to different bettors, was when you could play correlations in football and knew I had a big edge. Now I just try to grind away. Following good handicappers such as LT and always trying to play smart no matter what game or sport you're betting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    No your income determines everything


    Where do air bets fall into this equation?

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    Not at all,plenty of shitty Gamblers that will put down huge bets,wasn't Jordan meant to be pretty average

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    Because women only like guys with big ones.

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    find it funny how people can get excited for 10 dollar wagers. if youre gonna spend alot of time in this, might as well make it worth while

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    Saying you have to have a lot of money to be a good handicapper is the same as saying only rich ppl are born intelligent.
    Last edited by Hman; 08-19-18 at 08:36 PM.

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    I think the guy was asking more like what is a good capper and I tell anyone dont place a bet dont think dream about betting for profit until you read black cat in a coal cellar. That book proves everything 99.99% of what we think is wrong. Lake Wobegon if you dont know about it google it lake wobegon effect

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    Nothing wrong w/ small punters

    Handicapping is an art form

    Wagering the Application is a discipline

    Problems arise in the mind

    When a winning investment

    Isn’t good enough

    “Shoulda bet more”

    It deletes the self confidence

    Of your previous accomplishment

    And so the chase of the dragon begins

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    Hman, your question is ok. OVER TIME...in any financial market, the $$ flows to the wise.

    If u start out small...you're supposed to improve over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otters27 View Post
    Easier to make good pick with small wagers
    Why do you say this?

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    Eh No way - some people can't hand the anxiety of losing and some people have wives and kids so they can't bet big but are consistent winners. There are many big shots on Wall Street who need action on the weekends and big, I doubt many are very sharp though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbayko View Post
    Why do you say this?
    I think small wager win% is naturally going to be higher because of limit restrictions and how much hit on a line guy has to take to lay big on it.
    example I want to bet the Jets +6 for $10 I can do that anywhere in the world shoot for 10 bucks I might even get someone local to give me 10 points also I can bet 10 bucks on openers and get a better line those factors can make it a better bet.
    Guy needs to get down 50k on the Jets+6 its going to be a little tougher to get the jets at +6 once the line sharpens and if he does lay heavy at a book most books feed off each other and would start moving after he laid down the first nickel. So small bets are better picks in these terms but overall bet size means nothing in relation to skill level

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