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    Advice on capping Corner Totals in soccer

    When capping corner totals what factors do you take into account?

    How many the team usually concedes?

    How many they usually win?

    Just their overall totals history?

    Are you looking for particular matchup type, like a team that defends from the back 1/3 a lot? If a team attacks down the wings more than average? Weak back defenders?

    Anything else?



    Particularly with Unders I'm most looking for help identifying bets.

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    corner betting is tough. really random thats why most wc games are o.9.5 -115

    some games will get to like o9.5 -150 like argentina-nigeria (finished with 8)


    not an enjoyable bet as far as im concerned

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    It's hard to cap as corners are a bit of luck a bunch of times. I don't bet it often but I like teams that I think will boss possession around the oppositions box for overs and unders if I think it's going to be a midfield battle. Still a lottery though actually getting them, then there's those times corners happen b2b2b with defenders heading away under pressure.

    Probably the only time I really bet it is live when the favorite is losing at around the 70min mark and I think the underdog will hold on for awhile, underdog defenders will gladly take a corner and the attacking favs the same, you usually need around 3 which isn't much when the pace on.

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    I'm far from an expert but...

    Formations and team tendencies.

    Highly aggressive final 3rds vs good defenses who don't take shit leads to more corners in my experience. Whereas teams with low football IQs or great defenses against mediocre forwards mean less corners cause the defense simply mark their man and don't allow forward attacks. Just my 2

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    An Aussie book, Sportsbet, has a world cup promo I have been playing.

    They offer same game correlated multis, with stake back as a freebet if 1 leg loses.

    I have been taking Over 0.5 with Under 5.5 and then picking a match winner most of the time.

    Which gives you about 10% better odds than a straight 1X2 ML bet, with a freeplay back if you are wrong and it's not 0-0 or a blow out.

    I've had 20 winners, 19 freeplays back and 5 losses so far.


    Anyways, looking more closely at the options I think I could maximize the value a bit more if I picked Dog corner totals. They offer any total you like from 5 to 15 as options.


    That's why I am looking at corners, to increase the odds.



    I tried it yesterday and failed.

    SEN/COL both gave up 5-7 each game looking back to friendlies and this tourney, so I took Ov 10.5 to give me +175

    The total was 4

    Senegal v Colombia
    Over/Under 0.5 Goals - Over 0.5 Goals - Win
    Over/Under 6.5 Goals - Under 6.5 Goals - Win
    Alternate Number of Match Corners - Over 10.5 - Lose


    The opposite was the case with JAP/POL so I took under 8.5 to pay +150... and of course total ends at 12

    Japan v Poland
    Over/Under 6.5 Goals - Under 6.5 Goals - Win
    Number of Corners - Under 8.5 - Lose
    Over/Under 0.5 Goals - Over 0.5 Goals - Win

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    An Aussie book, Sportsbet, has a world cup promo I have been playing.

    They offer same game correlated multis, with stake back as a freebet if 1 leg loses.

    I have been taking Over 0.5 with Under 5.5 and then picking a match winner most of the time.

    Which gives you about 10% better odds than a straight 1X2 ML bet, with a freeplay back if you are wrong and it's not 0-0 or a blow out.

    I've had 20 winners, 19 freeplays back and 5 losses so far.


    Anyways, looking more closely at the options I think I could maximize the value a bit more if I picked Dog corner totals. They offer any total you like from 5 to 15 as options.


    That's why I am looking at corners, to increase the odds.



    I tried it yesterday and failed.

    SEN/COL both gave up 5-7 each game looking back to friendlies and this tourney, so I took Ov 10.5 to give me +175

    The total was 4

    Senegal v Colombia
    Over/Under 0.5 Goals - Over 0.5 Goals - Win
    Over/Under 6.5 Goals - Under 6.5 Goals - Win
    Alternate Number of Match Corners - Over 10.5 - Lose


    The opposite was the case with JAP/POL so I took under 8.5 to pay +150... and of course total ends at 12

    Japan v Poland
    Over/Under 6.5 Goals - Under 6.5 Goals - Win
    Number of Corners - Under 8.5 - Lose
    Over/Under 0.5 Goals - Over 0.5 Goals - Win
    Senagal's defense played lights out and didn't allow the strong Colombian attack to do what they do...which is why they changed it up and relied on the long ball and set pieces (few) to score in 2H

    Poland and Japan both in my opinion have low defense IQ. And I didn't bet that game at all, should have though. Corners and cards in world cups are interesting markets

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    wtf kind of promation is that? lol, im sure you can exploit that much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cashin81 View Post
    wtf kind of promation is that? lol, im sure you can exploit that much better.
    Well, I am open to ideas.

    https://www.sportsbet.com.au/betting...a-4104124.html click same game multi tab abd tell me how.

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    its retricted from uk

    can u back -1.5 and over 1.5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cashin81 View Post
    its retricted from uk

    can u back -1.5 and over 1.5?
    no, straight handicaps not there.

    and too many options to explain them all

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    4-3 final in crazy scoring game but corners? no so much 4 for France and 0 for Argentina. 4 total

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    Quote Originally Posted by cashin81 View Post
    its retricted from uk

    can u back -1.5 and over 1.5?
    paddy power has same...

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    In close games with a low under goal total, I often take the under for corners and trade out (often with a nice middle) after 10-15mins when the so called "study" round of both teams is over.

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    France v Argentina +130
    Over/Under 0.5 Goals - Over 0.5 Goals - Win
    Over/Under 5.5 Goals - Under 5.5 Goals - Lose
    Win-Draw-Win - France - Win

    Uruguay v Portugal +115
    Over/Under 4.5 Goals - Under 4.5 Goals
    Over/Under 0.5 Goals - Over 0.5 Goals - Win
    Alternate Number of Match Corners - Under 9.5 - Lose


    Will be lucky to escape with 2 freeplays back today. If there isnt 2 late goals in this URG/POR match. Already 11 corners.

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    Thinking about this for Croatia v Denmark game

    Croatia Win
    Over 0.5 Goals
    Over 7.5 Corners

    +150

    Croatia + O.5 + U5.5 pays the same as Croatia ML, -130


    Advice any corner bettors?

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    Same bet with o7.5 corners/Spain/Ov.5 pays +105 in first game v Russia. Already taken that one.

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    Banking on the teams starting cautiously, I took the U4 corners first half @+116. I will trade out if given the opportunity.

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    See the books have used 10 corners/game as they set the #640 for total corners in tournament I have been seeing more 5 corner games lately in the friendlies that I have 15+. I took a stab at the under 640 +137

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfa1234 View Post
    Banking on the teams starting cautiously, I took the U4 corners first half @+116. I will trade out if given the opportunity.
    good pick

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    such a degen bet, tossup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Thinking about this for Croatia v Denmark game

    Croatia Win
    Over 0.5 Goals
    Over 7.5 Corners

    +150

    Croatia + O.5 + U5.5 pays the same as Croatia ML, -130


    Advice any corner bettors?
    Damn. Full loser :\

    7 corners.

    Freeplay back for the Russia game.


    From a $200 deposit I've had $775 in freeplays so far from this promo. Not converting them very well though. $335 back from $565 used.





    Options for Brazil v Mexico


    Brazil Win/Over 0.5 Goals/Under 6.5 Goals -227
    Brazil Win/Over 0.5 Goals/Under 5.5 Goals -150
    Brazil Win/Over 1.5 Goals/Under 6.5 Goals -125
    Brazil Win/Over 1.5 Goals/Under 5.5 Goals +120
    Brazil Win/Over 2.5 Goals/Under 6.5 Goals +140
    Brazil Win/Over 2.5 Goals/Under 5.5 Goals +150

    Brazil Win/Over 0.5 Goals/Over 7.5 Corners -111
    Brazil Win/Over 0.5 Goals/Under 7.5 Corners +350

    Brazil Win/Over 0.5 Goals/Over 8.5 Corners +125
    Brazil Win/Over 0.5 Goals/Under 8.5 Corners +230

    Brazil Win/Over 0.5 Goals/Over 9.5 Corners +180
    Brazil Win/Over 0.5 Goals/Under 9.5 Corners +160

    Brazil Win/Over 0.5 Goals/Over 10.5 Corners +350
    Brazil Win/Over 0.5 Goals/Under 10.5 Corners +115

    Brazil Win/Over 0.5 Goals/Over 11.5 Corners +375
    Brazil Win/Over 0.5 Goals/Under 11.5 Corners -115

    BTTS/Over 0.5 Goals/Under 6.5 Goals +100

    Half Time Draw/Over 0.5 Goals/Under 6.5 Goals +170

    Mexico Win/Over 0.5 Goals/Under 6.5 Goals +575
    Mexico Advance/Over 0.5 Goals/Under 6.5 Goals +400

    1st half Over 0.5/Over 0.5/Over 8.5 Corners +110



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    Neither team is the team to defend very well, Mexico will try but even in their win VS Germany there were 9 corners despite them only playing counter the entire game. 1 of 2 things can happen:

    1. Mexico manages to fend off Brazil but Brazil is attacking all the time, which should creat quite a bit of corners for them as the Brazil attack is better than Germany.

    2. An early Brazil goal, which means Mexico will play more open...resulting in more corners

    3. An early Mexico goal, which means we are back to 1.

    I am on the over 9.5 corners @-115. As to the over/under in the game it's a toss up.

    May take a punt on the Mexico over 0.5 @ -118
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    I went with both of these

    Brazil Win/Over 0.5 Goals/Over 9.5 Corners +180
    BTTS/Over 0.5 Goals/Under 6.5 Goals +100

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I went with both of these

    Brazil Win/Over 0.5 Goals/Over 9.5 Corners +180
    BTTS/Over 0.5 Goals/Under 6.5 Goals +100
    Which book offers all these correlated plays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfa1234 View Post

    This may seem like to dumb question but why didn't you go with the BTTS/Over 1.5/under 6.5? Same bet better payout...I'm suprised they let you do correlated parlays like that though. Which bookie?
    Becasue the odds are the same at +100 for that.


    It's Sportsbet/Paddypower promo. Only $50 max but it's like free money. Wish I could make more cash and less freeplays though lol

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    I edited my answer figuring they weren't really parlays but just some exotic offerings from a book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfa1234 View Post
    I edited my answer figuring they weren't really parlays but just some exotic offerings from a book.
    The odds they offer are the sane as straight bets but they adjust the combined odds for correlation.

    As you can see from both those being the same odds, it's not perfect for every combo.

    It's interesting just to play about with looking for best advantage. Lots of options.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    When capping corner totals what factors do you take into account?

    How many the team usually concedes?

    How many they usually win?

    Just their overall totals history?

    Are you looking for particular matchup type, like a team that defends from the back 1/3 a lot? If a team attacks down the wings more than average? Weak back defenders?

    Anything else?



    Particularly with Unders I'm most looking for help identifying bets.
    You want to look for teams who are 100% likely to always play for a 1-0 win, like France. And avoid teams who always play like they are 0-1 down, like Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonegambler23 View Post
    such a degen bet, tossup
    This is 100% accurate. in 2014 I bet at a book famous for its creative linesmakers, and every bet I made was paying from 15% to 75% more than exact same bet would pay at Pinnacle.

    I won several thousand on live corner markers during group stage games and then ended up down overall despite having the very best of it 99% of the time. These markets are great fun but they are not for people gambling with mortgage money.

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    I bet on average 10 to 15 different soccer matches a day. Don't give a fukk about corners. That's not the objective of the game and find it a waste of my time to even look at the lines/odds.

    Maybe you can have an angle for lots of corners with teams that have wingers who are able to drive the ball to the backline for a cross. Defenders trying to block the cross from the wings could end up in corners. Knowledge of the teams: style, players, strategy is required.

    In general players try to win a corner and see it as an advantage and than there is Barcelona who view a corner in their favour as a disadvantage, if you noticed how often they take a short corner. Barca avoid winning corner kicks lol.

    Biggest ingredient for corners is a 'high tempo' game imo. You need a box to box action scenario. Two teams that are willing to score as much goals as possible, neglecting too much passing in midfield etc. But this is the ingredient for goals as well...So id rather bet on over the Total goals instead.

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    Today in the Suisse/Sweden game I'm once again on the U4.5 corners FH @-110. The O/U line supports a cautious game and both teams have shown to start fairly slow, while neither team has the attacking power to go all out so it should be a slow first half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfa1234 View Post
    Today in the Suisse/Sweden game I'm once again on the U4.5 corners FH @-110. The O/U line supports a cautious game and both teams have shown to start fairly slow, while neither team has the attacking power to go all out so it should be a slow first half.
    How did the 1H bet go? I ended up taking 1H Un3.5/Ov0.5/Over 9.5 corners for +155 winner.

    Had England/Ov0.5/Ov6.5 corners in other match. For just the freeplay back. Picking sides hasn't been working well for these!

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    I had over 2.5 corners in extra time... one clear corner not given... lost when it shoulda won

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    How did the 1H bet go? I ended up taking 1H Un3.5/Ov0.5/Over 9.5 corners for +155 winner.

    Had England/Ov0.5/Ov6.5 corners in other match. For just the freeplay back. Picking sides hasn't been working well for these!
    Easy win. Only 2 corners. Very slow game in the first half as expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alfa1234 View Post
    Easy win. Only 2 corners. Very slow game in the first half as expected.
    Nice. Do you think Sweden and England will play same way with few corners in quarterfinal fixture?

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