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    The Kraken
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    Guys QUIT using +\- EV in your posts

    You have no clue what + and - even really is

    It is not a term you use when you feel good about a bet

    Its a mathematical concept, more specifically a statistics concept

    Ive taken stats, you guys clearly are using it wrong

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    i thought +even meant you liked something.

    like zeta psi said hot sandwhiches are +even

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    I started with a $1000 bankroll 3 weeks ago and now I have a $3500 bankroll. 99% of my bets were -EV.

    Does it matter when I request a check for $2500 today?

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    ain't nobody that regularly posts on sbr even remotely aware of how to determine if a bet has a positive or negative expected value

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    Durito taught me how to calculate my edge and expected value

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    Quote Originally Posted by chilidog View Post

    ain't nobody that regularly posts on sbr even remotely aware of how to determine if a bet has a positive or negative expected value

    +1


    Most just parrot shitt they think sounds Sharp (no names)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    Durito taught me how to calculate my edge and expected value
    Don't see him around anywhere quite as much but that guy was very intelligent concerning sports wagering.

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    Durito = rito

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    Archie you're a chosen one. Doritos is sharp.

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    Kraker I am guilty of this. Was 1/2 blood and 1/2 alcohol the whole year I took advaned stats in college.

    I will pledge to not use the word ev ever again here.

    Kraker thanks for the bitchslap.

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    Kracker great post

    You have a clue

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    Every Tom, Dick, and Harry with a bachelors degree has taken stats. That being said kraker is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Every Tom, Dick, and Harry with a bachelors degree has taken stats. That being said kraker is correct.
    nope not me. i didnt have to take a single math class

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    No stats geek here and I just think in terms of implied probability. Look at the implied probability of a line and if I think there is a good reason to believe the actual probability is higher I consider the bet. Then look at/think about why this might be the case: ie. trap, public side or non public side, some key factor being overvalued or undervalued. If it looks like there is an edge I will make a big bet.

    When I feel like playing a gut feeling, I really like this bet type of play I play for "entertainment purposes only" amount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    You have no clue what + and - even really is

    It is not a term you use when you feel good about a bet

    Its a mathematical concept, more specifically a statistics concept

    Ive taken stats, you guys clearly are using it wrong
    Those clueless people are the same people who think that they don't pay juice when they play +100 or better odds

    But gotta love it when an idiot thinks he is being a smart ass when he uses +/- even incorrectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    You have no clue what + and - even really is

    It is not a term you use when you feel good about a bet

    Its a mathematical concept, more specifically a statistics concept

    Ive taken stats, you guys clearly are using it wrong
    Si

    since you are the statistical police, let me ask you;

    Is it OK if I use the term 'bell curve' in my posts? how about 'revert to the mean?'

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    As Brock Landers once said... "It Isn't Juice If You Win" So This would be a +EV statement.

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    What exactly did we accomplish here?

    This thread is -EV



    Fishhead in 3.2.1...
    Last edited by Louisvillekid1; 09-24-13 at 01:24 PM.

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    Never bet Fav over -130 . +EV

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Never bet Fav over -130 . +EV
    Take it even further Sammy...don't bet nothing over -110

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    Sammy lets go further, always plus $ wagers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    Sammy lets go further, always plus $ wagers
    This.

    50% @Avg wager of 130 is more profitable than 60% @-110

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post

    Sammy lets go further, always plus $ wagers




    No Juice = +EV

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    Rookies on this thread

    If market price is at most books

    Yanks -175
    Toronto +165


    Some rare book has

    Yanks -158
    foronto +148

    Do you bet yanks at -158?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Rookies on this thread

    If market price is at most books

    Yanks -175
    Toronto +165


    Some rare book has

    Yanks -158
    foronto +148


    Do you bet yanks at -158?
    You bet bluejays @ 165

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Rookies on this thread

    If market price is at most books

    Yanks -175
    Toronto +165


    Some rare book has

    Yanks -158
    foronto +148

    Do you bet yanks at -158?
    if that rare book is pinnacle you take Toronto

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    I like using these terms in arbitrary ways that have nothing to do with math.

    Misuse, probably. Misunderstood, absolutely. Misguided, never.

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    Big Bear your sharp
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    You have no clue what + and - even really is

    It is not a term you use when you feel good about a bet

    Its a mathematical concept, more specifically a statistics concept

    Ive taken stats, you guys clearly are using it wrong
    Ev != even

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    It means take anything. + money

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post

    Rookies on this thread

    If market price is at most books

    Yanks -175
    Toronto +165


    Some rare book has

    Yanks -158
    foronto +148

    Do you bet yanks at -158?

    Sammy would have NYY -125

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    It is -EV to place parlays, teasers, and get worst price.

    I could go into statistics but would take too long.

    It is -EV to bet at 10% juice unless you can hit 53%. Simple

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    Deemer , plenty of Sharps bet 3-team parlays

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    Ain't a fukkin thing discussed here matters one stikky shit if you can't handicap a game right unless you have a very, very, very large bankroll.

    See a lot of guys batting the fukk out of their calculator for 4 bucks and change.

    Most fukks in here just talkin about it because they feel like they matter.


    They don't

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    Guys if you take Detroit +2.5 +105 that is +EV

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