1. 10-11-11 08:55 PM #1
    riffraff24
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    Game Simulator?

    I'm obviously a newbie, but does anyone know where to get a good simulator without having to program one myself?
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  2. 10-11-11 09:59 PM #2
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    Save your time there is none unless you do your own homework
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  3. 10-11-11 10:40 PM #3
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    how about EA Sports (its in the game!)
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  4. 10-11-11 11:09 PM #4
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    while i <> iterations **
    if (rand()>x) **
    a = a + 1
    **
    else **
    b = b + 1
    **
    **
    print "a wins = " + a + "
    "
    print "b wins = " + b + "
    "
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  5. 10-12-11 12:08 AM #5
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    I do do my own homework. I was just looking for some extra tools. However I did expect toolbag responses from grown men trying to be internet bullies lol.
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  6. 10-12-11 01:07 AM #6
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    Yeah no worries buddy, I'll just pull one out of my pocket.
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  7. 10-12-11 01:16 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffraff24 View Post
    I do do my own homework. I was just looking for some extra tools. However I did expect toolbag responses from grown men trying to be internet bullies lol.
    For it to have any value at all, you need to program it yourself. Building one isn't that difficult, however it does take time and you need to be meticulous about using good data and accounting for all the important factors.
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  8. 10-12-11 10:01 AM #8
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  9. 10-12-11 11:44 AM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffraff24 View Post
    I'm obviously a newbie, but does anyone know where to get a good simulator without having to program one myself?
    The problem is you said "good" simulator. Those are, by definition, privately held (because if they were public, even if they had been good for beating the line, they wouldn't be good for that any more; and if they'd been good to begin with, the makers would never have gone public with them).

    Teamrankings and accuscore are public, available at ESPN and at their sites.
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  10. 10-12-11 01:28 PM #10
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    Thanks Pokerjoe and suicidekings for your grown up responses.
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  11. 10-12-11 03:56 PM #11
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  12. 10-12-11 07:21 PM #12
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    Madden...

    ...no I'm not joking
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  13. 10-12-11 07:52 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrecktangle View Post
    Madden...

    ...no I'm not joking
    And shouldn't be joking, Madden is fine. I would have included it but it's projections aren't available on the net, are they? But they are anyone's equal.
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  14. 10-12-11 11:11 PM #14
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    Just a thought

    nvm
    Last edited by The Sensei; 10-12-11 at 11:17 PM. Reason: making a thread
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  15. 10-13-11 06:53 PM #15
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    My simulator consists of:

    A list of teams taped on my wall
    a case of beer
    darts

    Throw and place your bets!
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  16. 10-14-11 10:44 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffraff24 View Post
    I do do my own homework. I was just looking for some extra tools. However I did expect toolbag responses from grown men trying to be internet bullies lol.
    Unfortunately that's what you get from a very vocal minority in the "think tank". Just ignore the "Living in Mon's Basement Gang" and eventually you'll get thoughtful, respectful answers. I thought it was a reasonable question.
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  17. 10-14-11 10:59 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomG View Post
    Now *thats* a good one! I think you have to be at least 40 to appreciate how just how funny that is! I remember meticulously planning a play, positioning all the little Heisman-shaped plastic dudes to open up holes in the defense for another little Heisman to run through. Then you flick the switch, and all hell breaks loose! Like every player on both teams simultaneously getting tazed! A few of the guys tip over, a few more shimmy to the sidelines, and the rest go round in circles, the whole thing accompanied by a loud metallic whine. And God help you if you tried a pass! Ever tried throwing a tiny felt football accurately with a 1-inch tall plastic quarterback? Ah those were the days!
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  18. 10-17-11 08:36 AM #18
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    I have been looking into Prediction Machine, as so far records for 2 Seasons have been fairly decent.
    At least worth a look.
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  19. 10-17-11 04:19 PM #19
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    Riffraff I build one a few years ago for NBA then as the season went on I did regression anaylsys and kept tweaking the formulas based on what was actually coming in. It took way too much time it once had an 11/11 night betting totals and once picked a big underdog to win outright but overall it was just slightly better than throwing darts. The stupid site I got my feeds from changed a format and I never got it going again. It was a fun project and one I hope to take up again but I don't have that kind of free time anymore.
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  20. 10-17-11 06:35 PM #20
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    Here is a link to a tennis simulator in excel, and a paper describing how it works.

    http://strategicgames.com.au/journal.pdf

    http://strategicgames.com.au/tenniscalculator2.xls
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  21. 10-17-11 11:19 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffraff24 View Post
    Thanks Pokerjoe and suicidekings for your grown up responses.
    To add to this, models/simulators break down and your first one (most likely first few) will fail miserably. But it's a learning process.
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  22. 10-18-11 07:47 AM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunders77 View Post
    I have been looking into Prediction Machine, as so far records for 2 Seasons have been fairly decent.
    At least worth a look.




    This looks interesting.

    Bessires bio, very impressive.
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  23. 10-20-11 04:27 PM #23
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    Thanks for all the feedback guys!
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  24. 10-20-11 10:59 PM #24
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    Accuscore uses a simulator for handicapping sports. I doubt they would give you the one they use, even for a large price, but they may provide some help on finding a reatail simulator, or things to look for in ones that are marketed, if you can find any.


    ZOLAS
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  25. 10-21-11 08:03 AM #25
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    If you guys want results from a process that is "not perfect" use Sagarin.
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