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    Quote Originally Posted by Cross View Post
    My cubs get to feed off Tigers and Royals. That should be nice.
    Tigers and Royals should tee off against that subpar staff.

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    Props Baseball Money Line
    MLB Regular Season Propositions
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20001 Any player scores 49+ runs -115
    1:00PM 20002 No player scores 49+ runs -115
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20003 Any player has 77+ hits -140
    1:00PM 20004 No player has 77+ hits +110
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20005 Any player hits 21+ doubles -115
    1:00PM 20006 No player hits 21+ doubles -115
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20007 Any player hits 5+ triples -120
    1:00PM 20008 No player hits 5+ triples -110
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20009 Any player hits 20+ home runs -170
    1:00PM 20010 No player hits 20+ home runs +140
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20011 Any player hits .400 or better +700
    1:00PM 20012 No player hits .400 or better -1300
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20013 Any player hits .345 or better -160
    1:00PM 20014 No player hits .345 or better +130
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20015 Any player records 48+ RBI's -125
    1:00PM 20016 No player records 48+ RBI's -105
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20017 Any player steals 19+ bases -150
    1:00PM 20018 No player steals 19+ bases +120
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20019 Any pitcher has 8+ wins -140
    1:00PM 20020 No pitcher has 8+ wins +110
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20021 Any pitcher has 7+ losses -115
    1:00PM 20022 No pitcher has 7+ losses -115
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20023 Any pitcher has 18+ saves -105
    1:00PM 20024 No pitcher has 18+ saves -125
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20025 Any pitcher strikes out 112+ batters +105
    1:00PM 20026 No pitcher strikes out 112+ batters -135
    playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20027 Any team wins 41+ regular season games -120
    1:00PM 20028 No team wins 41+ regular season games -110
    playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20029 Any team loses 41+ regular season games -130
    1:00PM 20030 No team loses 41+ regular season games +100

    Anything jump out to Anyone here??? @ 5dimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by koz-man View Post
    Props Baseball Money Line
    MLB Regular Season Propositions
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20001 Any player scores 49+ runs -115
    1:00PM 20002 No player scores 49+ runs -115
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20003 Any player has 77+ hits -140
    1:00PM 20004 No player has 77+ hits +110
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20005 Any player hits 21+ doubles -115
    1:00PM 20006 No player hits 21+ doubles -115
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20007 Any player hits 5+ triples -120
    1:00PM 20008 No player hits 5+ triples -110
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20009 Any player hits 20+ home runs -170
    1:00PM 20010 No player hits 20+ home runs +140
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20011 Any player hits .400 or better +700
    1:00PM 20012 No player hits .400 or better -1300
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20013 Any player hits .345 or better -160
    1:00PM 20014 No player hits .345 or better +130
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20015 Any player records 48+ RBI's -125
    1:00PM 20016 No player records 48+ RBI's -105
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20017 Any player steals 19+ bases -150
    1:00PM 20018 No player steals 19+ bases +120
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20019 Any pitcher has 8+ wins -140
    1:00PM 20020 No pitcher has 8+ wins +110
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20021 Any pitcher has 7+ losses -115
    1:00PM 20022 No pitcher has 7+ losses -115
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20023 Any pitcher has 18+ saves -105
    1:00PM 20024 No pitcher has 18+ saves -125
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20025 Any pitcher strikes out 112+ batters +105
    1:00PM 20026 No pitcher strikes out 112+ batters -135
    playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20027 Any team wins 41+ regular season games -120
    1:00PM 20028 No team wins 41+ regular season games -110
    playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20029 Any team loses 41+ regular season games -130
    1:00PM 20030 No team loses 41+ regular season games +100

    Anything jump out to Anyone here??? @ 5dimes
    Interesting props, Will take a closer look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    Tigers and Royals should tee off against that subpar staff.
    I think my KC Royals lineup has a load of potential, the pitching on the other hand sucks balls.

    I'll be happy with a .500 season from KC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batt33 View Post
    Interesting props, Will take a closer look.
    I've got all my projections at hand, I'll post my thoughts soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heltah Skeltah View Post
    I believe he still has both arms unless he lost one recently lighting of fireworks. Anyway his mlb pitching days are toast. Matt Harvey still has his pitching arm..you probably better off taking a look at him . Maybe he is done with the booze and cocaine and has a pitch or two left in a bullpen..lol
    Harvey is probably getting a job in Korea baseball. Ubaldo should do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I think my KC Royals lineup has a load of potential, the pitching on the other hand sucks balls.

    I'll be happy with a .500 season from KC.
    we just need a few gems to pitch better than expected. gonna be a weird 2020 MLB...anything can happen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by koz-man View Post
    Props Baseball Money Line
    MLB Regular Season Propositions
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20001 Any player scores 49+ runs -115
    1:00PM 20002 No player scores 49+ runs -115
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20003 Any player has 77+ hits -140
    1:00PM 20004 No player has 77+ hits +110
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20005 Any player hits 21+ doubles -115
    1:00PM 20006 No player hits 21+ doubles -115
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20007 Any player hits 5+ triples -120
    1:00PM 20008 No player hits 5+ triples -110
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20009 Any player hits 20+ home runs -170
    1:00PM 20010 No player hits 20+ home runs +140
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20011 Any player hits .400 or better +700
    1:00PM 20012 No player hits .400 or better -1300
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20013 Any player hits .345 or better -160
    1:00PM 20014 No player hits .345 or better +130
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20015 Any player records 48+ RBI's -125
    1:00PM 20016 No player records 48+ RBI's -105
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20017 Any player steals 19+ bases -150
    1:00PM 20018 No player steals 19+ bases +120
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20019 Any pitcher has 8+ wins -140
    1:00PM 20020 No pitcher has 8+ wins +110
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20021 Any pitcher has 7+ losses -115
    1:00PM 20022 No pitcher has 7+ losses -115
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20023 Any pitcher has 18+ saves -105
    1:00PM 20024 No pitcher has 18+ saves -125
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20025 Any pitcher strikes out 112+ batters +105
    1:00PM 20026 No pitcher strikes out 112+ batters -135
    playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20027 Any team wins 41+ regular season games -120
    1:00PM 20028 No team wins 41+ regular season games -110
    playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20029 Any team loses 41+ regular season games -130
    1:00PM 20030 No team loses 41+ regular season games +100

    Anything jump out to Anyone here??? @ 5dimes
    Going to study this tomorrow morning

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    Peavy, I would love to make a friendly Betpoints wager. Is there a quantifiable starting pitching stat that would could wager on regarding the Cubs SPs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadphish View Post
    we just need a few gems to pitch better than expected. gonna be a weird 2020 MLB...anything can happen!
    There's definitely going to be a team that nobody thought would be any good this year that way outperforms their projection in a 60 game season. That's why I'm actually looking forward to this sprint 2020 will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadphish View Post
    we just need a few gems to pitch better than expected. gonna be a weird 2020 MLB...anything can happen!
    Duff man has always been my favorite KC pitcher.
    Junis's shit when on is electrifying (when he's on)
    Keller is young, if he can step up and live up to expectation than we may be on to something.





    ROLE POS PLAYER THR ERA GS IP H BB SO
    SP1 SP Brad Keller R 4.62 11 63 64 26 47
    SP2 SP Danny Duffy L 4.71 11 66 66 23 58
    SP3 SP Jakob Junis R 4.77 11 67 69 20 60
    SP4 SP Mike Montgomery L 4.62 10 56 59 21 40

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    10:16pm: Charles Gasparino of FOX Business tweets that Cohen has told the Wilpons he’d be willing to pay $2 billion for the team and $2 billion for SNY. It’s not entirely clear that offers on SNY are even being entertained, though Cohen could certainly make an aggressive bid to buy a controlling stake in hope of forcing the Wilpons’ hand. If the numbers here are accurate, it’s hard to envision most other buyers being able to compete.
    9:05pm: The initial bid from the Rodriguez/Lopez group is “around” $1.7 billion, Thornton McEnery of the New York Post tweets.
    8:40pm: At least five interested groups formally submitted bids to buy the Mets on Thursday, Sportico’s Scott Soshnick reports. Among them are previously reported groups led by Alex Rodriguez and Jennifer Lopez; New Jersey Devils and Philadelphia 76ers owners David Blitzer and Josh Harris; and, perhaps of most intrigue to Mets fans, New York billionaire and current minority stakeholder Steve Cohen. All offers submitted today are preliminary, non-binding offers which can still be altered, Soshnick writes.
    Cohen was not only in talks to buy the Mets in late 2019 and early 2020 but actually had an agreement in place to increase his stake in the team from eight percent to 80 percent over a five-year period. However, that deal fell apart in February — reportedly after managing partner Fred Wilpon and son Jeff (the Mets’ COO) sought to alter some terms at the eleventh hour. Neither party would comment directly on why the deal crumbled. Cohen said in a statement at the time:
    I’m very disappointed we couldn’t work out a deal, but as an eight percent holder I’m looking forward to a higher bid for the team. I want to thank the fans for their support and the respect they showed me and I want to thank Commissioner Manfred and MLB for their support through the process. I gave it my best shot.
    Cohen, a New York native with a net worth estimated at one point to be in excess of $13 billion, grew up as a Mets fan. That has given current fans hope that he could substantially up the team’s payroll in the event that he is ultimately victorious in his apparently renewed pursuit of a purchase. Whether that was actually the case earlier this year can’t be known, and it’s particularly up for debate whether it’d play out in such a manner following substantial revenue losses and a stark economic downturn. Cohen’s initial bid on the Mets was reported to be a whopping $2.6 billion. Updated bids are expected to be lower, however, due both to recent economic turmoil and the fact that the current sale is said not to include any stake in the SNY Network.
    The other ownership groups, of course, shouldn’t be counted out. While few can match Cohen’s considerable net worth, the A-Rod/J-Lo group recently enlisted Florida Panthers owner Vinnie Viola and VitaminWater and BodyArmor co-founder Mike Repole to bolster its resources. Harris and Blitzer already own a pair of U.S. sports teams, and Harris has a minority stake in an English Premier League club, so this is familiar territory.
    There’s also been reported interest in the Mets from U.K. billionaires David and Simon Reuben. The brothers carry a net worth even greater than that of Cohen — a reported $14 billion — and have interest in expanding their broad-reaching real estate and retail enterprise into New York in the near future. Bloomberg reported that they recently purchased retail space in Manhattan, and they’re said to have interest in developing the land around Flushing’s Citi Field. Whether they’re one of the five (or more) groups to have formally submitted a bid isn’t yet clear.
    As many as seven groups were pre-approved by Major League Baseball recently. The Wilpons are aiming to complete a sale of the team by end of year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I think my KC Royals lineup has a load of potential, the pitching on the other hand sucks balls.

    I'll be happy with a .500 season from KC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Duff man has always been my favorite KC pitcher.
    Junis's shit when on is electrifying (when he's on)
    Keller is young, if he can step up and live up to expectation than we may be on to something.





    ROLE POS PLAYER THR ERA GS IP H BB SO
    SP1 SP Brad Keller R 4.62 11 63 64 26 47
    SP2 SP Danny Duffy L 4.71 11 66 66 23 58
    SP3 SP Jakob Junis R 4.77 11 67 69 20 60
    SP4 SP Mike Montgomery L 4.62 10 56 59 21 40


    Some could turn corner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cross View Post
    Peavy, I would love to make a friendly Betpoints wager. Is there a quantifiable starting pitching stat that would could wager on regarding the Cubs SPs?
    Come up with something and I'll give you a yay or nay, Crosser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrgum3 View Post
    There's definitely going to be a team that nobody thought would be any good this year that way outperforms their projection in a 60 game season. That's why I'm actually looking forward to this sprint 2020 will be.
    4 sure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrgum3 View Post
    There's definitely going to be a team that nobody thought would be any good this year that way outperforms their projection in a 60 game season. That's why I'm actually looking forward to this sprint 2020 will be.
    Hoping it will be my Jays!

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    Angels are my dark horse

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    San Francisco Giants star Buster Posey announced Friday that he is opting out of the 2020 MLB season amid the coronavirus pandemic

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    Quote Originally Posted by batt33 View Post
    Interesting props, Will take a closer look.


    MLB Regular Season Propositions
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20001 Any player scores 49+ runs -115
    1:00PM 20002 No player scores 49+ runs -115



    I've got Mookie leading the majors in runs scored with 47.
    I have Acuna Jr. next best at 44.

    I like the under here.


    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20003 Any player has 77+ hits -140
    1:00PM 20004 No player has 77+ hits +110
    This number is way to high if you ask me.
    I have no batter reaching the 70 plateau.
    Just to make sure i didn't make a mistake in my model, my database, I went to other database sources to double check my numbers against theirs, the I/T people at Rotowire for instance are like 100 times better at this than I am, long story short, the two other information sources I trust more than myself also say no hitter will reach 70 hits.

    I've got a four way group (Albies, Lindor, Merrifield, and Devers) at 68 hits each.
    Roto thinks Mookie will lead the majors with 68 hits, he very well may.

    I'm going to pound this under 77 at +110.
    It looks to easy it's scary, that's why I'm afraid to hit the under, it looks too easy.


    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20005 Any player hits 21+ doubles -115
    1:00PM 20006 No player hits 21+ doubles -115


    I don't see an edge here.
    Multiple sources (and me too) have Castellanos, and Xander approaching 20 two baggers.
    Passing on this prop.

    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20007 Any player hits 5+ triples -120
    1:00PM 20008 No player hits 5+ triples

    -110


    No edge here either.
    Mondesi in KC, Mallex Smith in Seattle, or a Tatis in SD can easily hit five or six triples in 60 games.
    Passing on this prop.



    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20009 Any player hits 20+ home runs -150
    1:00PM 20010 No player hits 20+ home runs +120

    Another ridiculously juiced prop.
    Not one reputable forecasting source project any power hitter this shortened season hitting 18 home runs, no less 20.

    The sexy pick is Stanton of the Yankees to lead the majors in dingers with 18 (many project him at 16)
    I see a few Bellinger's to win the HR crown
    Me? I think Alonso with 18 wins it. (Dark horse Joey Gallo)

    I'm pounding the under 20.



    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20011 Any player hits .400 or better +700
    1:00PM 20012 No player hits .400 or better -1300
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20013 Any player hits .345 or better -160
    1:00PM 20014 No player hits .345 or better +130


    This one is a silly prop.
    No batter is hitting .400 across these 60 games.

    The second one has major value.
    From what I'm reading the batting title may be around .320 (Someone like an Altuve, if he's not stealing signs.)

    Under .345 for me.



    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20015 Any player records 48+ RBI's -125
    1:00PM 20016 No player records 48+ RBI's -105

    This number is razor sharp.
    I'm staying far away from this one.
    One blogger I follow says Juan Soto may very well be your RBI champ this season with 50.
    And he might be right.
    Don't discount Bellinger in Hollywood, or Arenado in that Denver launching pad.
    Me? I like a healthy Stanton to pick up around 50, maybe 52 RBI especailly with Judge's high OBA in front of him (providing Judge is healthy and DJ at the top of the order to boot)


    Last one:
    I'll do the pitchers tomorrow.



    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20017 Any player steals 19+ bases -150
    1:00PM 20018 No player steals 19+ bases +120

    No, there will not be a 20 base stealer.

    Mallex Smith may come close to 20, ditto for Trea Turner, maybe Villar and Mondesi, but I can't see 20 stolen bases from any player.

    I'm going to play Under 19 steals for +120
    Under .345 for the batting title for +130
    Under 20 HR's will win the HR title for +120
    Under 77 hits for the base hit champion for +110
    Under 49 runs scored for the run leader at -115 pick 'em.

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    We knew this moment would come. We just didn’t know it would happen this soon. Vladimir Guerrero Jr. will make first base his primary position moving forward, per Ben Nicholson-Smith of Sportsnet (via Twitter).
    After one full season at third base, the 21-year-old power phenom will focus his attentions on becoming a primary first baseman and designated hitter. Vlad committed 17 errors in 94 starts at the hot corner in 2019. The advanced metrics didn’t care much for his effort either (-9 DRS, -9.4 UZR). Statcast’s Outs Above Average pegged Vlad last in the league (tied with the Twins’ Jorge Polanco) with -16 OAA.
    Offensively, there’s little doubt that Vlad Jr. has one of the most prodigious power strokes in the game, even at such a young age, and this move allows him to focus on what he does best. Vlad Jr. stroked 15 home runs over 514 plate appearances while slashing .272/.339/.433 as a 20-year-old. The move across the diamond was an eventuality, and in some ways, it makes sense to make the move as soon as possible rather than spend development time at a position without a long-term future. It’s certainly possible Guerrero Jr. ends up as a primary designated hitter, but he’ll try his hand at first in 2020.
    With Vlad Jr. shifting over to first, Travis Shaw expects to get most of the playing time at third, per Nicholson-Smith. Lourdes Gurriel Jr. hasn’t played any third, but the infielder/outfielder could presumably pick it up, while second baseman Cavan Biggio played a little bit at the hot corner in Triple-A. Breyvic Valera is also capable of handling third.
    Shaw, signed as a free agent, is coming off a bizarrely disappointing showing in 2019 as he hit just .157/.281/.270 across 270 plate appearances with the Brewers. That allowed the Blue Jays to snag him on the cheap, as they’ll hope he rebounds to something closer to his career line of .243/.327/.451.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batt33 View Post
    San Francisco Giants star Buster Posey announced Friday that he is opting out of the 2020 MLB season amid the coronavirus pandemic
    Wish this weren't the case but I can't say I blame Posey for sitting out. It wouldn't shock me if even bigger names announce they won't be playing this season with all the uncertainty surrounding the pandemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmpireMaker View Post
    10:16pm: Charles Gasparino of FOX Business tweets that Cohen has told the Wilpons he’d be willing to pay $2 billion for the team and $2 billion for SNY. It’s not entirely clear that offers on SNY are even being entertained, though Cohen could certainly make an aggressive bid to buy a controlling stake in hope of forcing the Wilpons’ hand. If the numbers here are accurate, it’s hard to envision most other buyers being able to compete.
    9:05pm: The initial bid from the Rodriguez/Lopez group is “around” $1.7 billion, Thornton McEnery of the New York Post tweets.
    8:40pm: At least five interested groups formally submitted bids to buy the Mets on Thursday, Sportico’s Scott Soshnick reports. Among them are previously reported groups led by Alex Rodriguez and Jennifer Lopez; New Jersey Devils and Philadelphia 76ers owners David Blitzer and Josh Harris; and, perhaps of most intrigue to Mets fans, New York billionaire and current minority stakeholder Steve Cohen. All offers submitted today are preliminary, non-binding offers which can still be altered, Soshnick writes.
    Cohen was not only in talks to buy the Mets in late 2019 and early 2020 but actually had an agreement in place to increase his stake in the team from eight percent to 80 percent over a five-year period. However, that deal fell apart in February — reportedly after managing partner Fred Wilpon and son Jeff (the Mets’ COO) sought to alter some terms at the eleventh hour. Neither party would comment directly on why the deal crumbled. Cohen said in a statement at the time:
    I’m very disappointed we couldn’t work out a deal, but as an eight percent holder I’m looking forward to a higher bid for the team. I want to thank the fans for their support and the respect they showed me and I want to thank Commissioner Manfred and MLB for their support through the process. I gave it my best shot.
    Cohen, a New York native with a net worth estimated at one point to be in excess of $13 billion, grew up as a Mets fan. That has given current fans hope that he could substantially up the team’s payroll in the event that he is ultimately victorious in his apparently renewed pursuit of a purchase. Whether that was actually the case earlier this year can’t be known, and it’s particularly up for debate whether it’d play out in such a manner following substantial revenue losses and a stark economic downturn. Cohen’s initial bid on the Mets was reported to be a whopping $2.6 billion. Updated bids are expected to be lower, however, due both to recent economic turmoil and the fact that the current sale is said not to include any stake in the SNY Network.
    The other ownership groups, of course, shouldn’t be counted out. While few can match Cohen’s considerable net worth, the A-Rod/J-Lo group recently enlisted Florida Panthers owner Vinnie Viola and VitaminWater and BodyArmor co-founder Mike Repole to bolster its resources. Harris and Blitzer already own a pair of U.S. sports teams, and Harris has a minority stake in an English Premier League club, so this is familiar territory.
    There’s also been reported interest in the Mets from U.K. billionaires David and Simon Reuben. The brothers carry a net worth even greater than that of Cohen — a reported $14 billion — and have interest in expanding their broad-reaching real estate and retail enterprise into New York in the near future. Bloomberg reported that they recently purchased retail space in Manhattan, and they’re said to have interest in developing the land around Flushing’s Citi Field. Whether they’re one of the five (or more) groups to have formally submitted a bid isn’t yet clear.
    As many as seven groups were pre-approved by Major League Baseball recently. The Wilpons are aiming to complete a sale of the team by end of year.

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    Thu 7/23 20001 Any player scores 49+ runs -115
    1:00PM 20002 No player scores 49+ runs -115



    I've got Mookie leading the majors in runs scored with 47.
    I have Acuna Jr. next best at 44.

    I like the under here.


    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20003 Any player has 77+ hits -140
    1:00PM 20004 No player has 77+ hits +110
    This number is way to high if you ask me.
    I have no batter reaching the 70 plateau.
    Just to make sure i didn't make a mistake in my model, my database, I went to other database sources to double check my numbers against theirs, the I/T people at Rotowire for instance are like 100 times better at this than I am, long story short, the two other information sources I trust more than myself also say no hitter will reach 70 hits.

    I've got a four way group (Albies, Lindor, Merrifield, and Devers) at 68 hits each.
    Roto thinks Mookie will lead the majors with 68 hits, he very well may.

    I'm going to pound this under 77 at +110.
    It looks to easy it's scary, that's why I'm afraid to hit the under, it looks too easy.


    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20005 Any player hits 21+ doubles -115
    1:00PM 20006 No player hits 21+ doubles -115


    I don't see an edge here.
    Multiple sources (and me too) have Castellanos, and Xander approaching 20 two baggers.
    Passing on this prop.

    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20007 Any player hits 5+ triples -120
    1:00PM 20008 No player hits 5+ triples
    -110


    No edge here either.
    Mondesi in KC, Mallex Smith in Seattle, or a Tatis in SD can easily hit five or six triples in 60 games.
    Passing on this prop.



    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20009 Any player hits 20+ home runs -150
    1:00PM 20010 No player hits 20+ home runs +120

    Another ridiculously juiced prop.
    Not one reputable forecasting source project any power hitter this shortened season hitting 18 home runs, no less 20.

    The sexy pick is Stanton of the Yankees to lead the majors in dingers with 18 (many project him at 16)
    I see a few Bellinger's to win the HR crown
    Me? I think Alonso with 18 wins it. (Dark horse Joey Gallo)

    I'm pounding the under 20.



    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20011 Any player hits .400 or better +700
    1:00PM 20012 No player hits .400 or better -1300
    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20013 Any player hits .345 or better -160
    1:00PM 20014 No player hits .345 or better +130


    This one is a silly prop.
    No batter is hitting .400 across these 60 games.

    The second one has major value.
    From what I'm reading the batting title may be around .320 (Someone like an Altuve, if he's not stealing signs.)

    Under .345 for me.



    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20015 Any player records 48+ RBI's -125
    1:00PM 20016 No player records 48+ RBI's -105

    This number is razor sharp.
    I'm staying far away from this one.
    One blogger I follow says Juan Soto may very well be your RBI champ this season with 50.
    And he might be right.
    Don't discount Bellinger in Hollywood, or Arenado in that Denver launching pad.
    Me? I like a healthy Stanton to pick up around 50, maybe 52 RBI especailly with Judge's high OBA in front of him (providing Judge is healthy and DJ at the top of the order to boot)


    Last one:
    I'll do the pitchers tomorrow.



    complete regular season stats, playoffs not included, all teams must play at least 59 games for action
    Thu 7/23 20017 Any player steals 19+ bases -150
    1:00PM 20018 No player steals 19+ bases +120

    No, there will not be a 20 base stealer.

    Mallex Smith may come close to 20, ditto for Trea Turner, maybe Villar and Mondesi, but I can't see 20 stolen bases from any player.

    I'm going to play Under 19 steals for +120
    Under .345 for the batting title for +130
    Under 20 HR's will win the HR title for +120
    Under 77 hits for the base hit champion for +110
    Under 49 runs scored for the run leader at -115 pick 'em.
    Nasher, I actually like the over on many of those wagers. My rationale is that there is usually at least one guy that starts out on fire in numerous categories(Bellinger last year for example).

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    More guys are going to opt out

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    I dont think there will be a season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    Nasher, I actually like the over on many of those wagers. My rationale is that there is usually at least one guy that starts out on fire in numerous categories(Bellinger last year for example).

    I understand your point and it's valid.


    Here's an interesting fun fact.
    The MLB record for most homers hit in the first 60 games is 22 (Christian Yelich and Josh Hamilton, so if the the over 20 is to cash one of the power hitters would have to be pretty much on a record breaking pace.

    *intangible* I don't know this to be true and it's just a hunch, but I think the balls will not be wound up nearly as much in the past.
    Which may be a good thing because all these homers hit at an alarming rate in reality slows down the game if you think about it.

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    Aroldis Chapman tests positive for the rona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otters27 View Post
    More guys are going to opt out
    Buster Posey did.

    Minor leaguers will shine in the majors now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigSpoon View Post
    Aroldis Chapman tests positive for the rona.

    Dude got jacked this off season

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otters27 View Post
    More guys are going to opt out
    Either that or they'll all catch Covid and we won't get the season we were hoping for if there is even a season at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrgum3 View Post
    Either that or they'll all catch Covid and we won't get the season we were hoping for if there is even a season at all.
    There had better be a season, I've been updating my databases all weekend.

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    The Yankees announced today that left-handed pitcher Aroldis Chapman has tested positive for COVID-19, showing mild symptoms (H/t Bryan Hoch of MLB.com). Needless to say, Chapman will be away from the team and won’t be allowed to participate in team workouts for the foreseeable future. He’ll need to test negative twice before he’s allowed to rejoin the Yankees.
    Chapman’s positive test occurred after he passed the Yankees’ initial intake process and began team workouts, meaning that he had trained with the team at Yankee Stadium prior to testing positive. The Yankees conducted contract tracing after learning of Chapman’s results on Thursday, with James Wagner of The New York Times reporting that the process revealed no further positive tests.
    The Yankees have also had Luis Cessa and DJ LeMahieu test positive for the virus, making Chapman the third Yankee to receive a diagnosis since the season reboot.
    Should Chapman’s illness prevent him from playing in regular season games for the Yankees, veteran Zack Britton is the standout choice to take on the bulk of the closing duties in New York. That said, the unusual nature of this season will likely alter bullpen usage as we know it, so teams might be hesitant to rely on a single closer day in and day out. Nonetheless, look for Britton to pick up some slack in high-leverage innings.

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    Whens the first preseason scrimmage

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I understand your point and it's valid.


    Here's an interesting fun fact.
    The MLB record for most homers hit in the first 60 games is 22 (Christian Yelich and Josh Hamilton, so if the the over 20 is to cash one of the power hitters would have to be pretty much on a record breaking pace.

    *intangible* I don't know this to be true and it's just a hunch, but I think the balls will not be wound up nearly as much in the past.
    Which may be a good thing because all these homers hit at an alarming rate in reality slows down the game if you think about it.
    Fair point. Another factor could be how nothing was normal this year leading up to the season. This could cause guys to have slower starts potentially? I believe pitchers will be ahead of hitters early in the season. This is actually an argument against what I stated yesterday, but just playing devil's advocate a bit.

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