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    NFL Week 1 Lines are Now Up (Totals Too)

    The draft is still one week away but so what!

    Courtesy of Westgate Superbook:

    Thursday, September 10, 2015

    STEELERS
    PATRIOTS -6, 53

    Sunday, September 13, 2015


    PACKERS -4, 50
    BEARS

    CHIEFS
    TEXANS -1.5, 43

    BROWNS
    JETS -1, 41

    COLTS -3 EVEN, 48
    BILLS

    DOLPHINS -2.5, 44.5
    REDSKINS

    PANTHERS -4, 43.5
    JAGUARS

    SEAHAWKS -3.5, 44
    RAMS

    SAINTS
    CARDINALS -2.5, 48

    LIONS
    CHARGERS -2, 46.5

    TITANS
    BUCS -3, 42.5

    BENGALS -3, 44.5
    RAIDERS

    RAVENS
    BRONCOS -4, 53

    GIANTS
    COWBOYS -5.5, 50

    Monday, September 14, 2015

    EAGLES -1.5, 53.5
    FALCONS

    VIKINGS
    49ERS -3.5, 42

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    Panthers -4 is a license to print money.

    Jaguars may go 0-16

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    By the time we all go to bet them add/sub 2/3

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    Vikings

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    I'm looking at the Lions schedule... and I keep forgetting they're better than before... but damn. I'm marking most of these games down as losses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hu$tle View Post
    By the time we all go to bet them add/sub 2/3
    Precisely the reason why NOW may be the best time to find value. It looks like BetOnLine cloned these lines off shore, it would be nice if the major books follow suit.

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    Eh. If you think youre a decent bettor you can get 5 games in by the time 1 of those cash. Never bet on something longer than a month...better return elsewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Precisely the reason why NOW may be the best time to find value. It looks like BetOnLine cloned these lines off shore, it would be nice if the major books follow suit.

    With all due respect how in the world can you find any sort of value in.

    1)putting your money to sleep for 6 months.
    2)betting a team when no one knows the exact make up of the team.
    3)so i bet a game today.. april 22nd...how can you take injuries,trades,roster moves,weather into account?
    you can't so it becomes nothing more then a guess, not even a educated guess..just a guess.

    Sounds much more like degenerate gambling as opposed to any sort of value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Profits View Post
    Precisely the reason why NOW ​may be the best time to find value. It looks like BetOnLine cloned these lines off shore, it would be nice if the major books follow suit.
    just as easy to find yourself on the wrong side of the line movement come game time 6 months later.

    no value.

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    Why would anyone Bet these games now?

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    LT works for the books he wants us to lose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bear View Post
    Panthers -4 is a license to print money.

    Please tell me you're joking!

    you've been spending to much time in Seaweeds threads.
    Last edited by Al Masters; 04-22-15 at 01:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Why would anyone Bet these games now?
    According to LT(who i respect) value.

    otherwise no reason whats so ever... degenerate nonsense imo.

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    Call me crazy, but every dog looks like great value. AZ -2' hosting a distmantled NO is the only fav I like.

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    I would think the only reason if you're going to bet the other side and get a nice middle closer to game time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Masters View Post
    With all due respect how in the world can you find any sort of value in.

    1)putting your money to sleep for 6 months.
    2)betting a team when no one knows the exact make up of the team.
    3)so i bet a game today.. april 22nd...how can you take injuries,trades,roster moves,weather into account?
    you can't so it becomes nothing more then a guess, not even a educated guess..just a guess.


    Sounds much more like degenerate gambling as opposed to any sort of value.
    the books are exposed to the same exact uncertainties as the bettor is. maybe a key injury will happen in your favor instead of against?

    every year i make some week 1 bets around June/July. the lines are really soft. i remember a few years ago I took a home team at -6 months before opening week. by kickoff, the line was -11.

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    Eagles are favored?

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    Vikings +3 and ML

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huego View Post
    the books are exposed to the same exact uncertainties as the bettor is. maybe a key injury will happen in your favor instead of against?

    every year i make some week 1 bets around June/July. the lines are really soft. i remember a few years ago I took a home team at -6 months before opening week. by kickoff, the line was -11.
    I'm curious what game that was. Sorta hard to search for line movement in my database, best I could find was KC@BAL week 1 2009 where line moved from BAL-9 to Bal-13 when Cassel was out due to a sprained MCL.

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    Tie your money for 6 months in NFL is pure value..meaning you won't lose it on NBA playoffs and MLB. LT is a genius.

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    The jets at home -1 against the browns

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    Quote Originally Posted by slacker00 View Post
    I'm curious what game that was. Sorta hard to search for line movement in my database, best I could find was KC@BAL week 1 2009 where line moved from BAL-9 to Bal-13 when Cassel was out due to a sprained MCL.
    I believe it was 2012 season miami @ houston.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huego View Post
    I believe it was 2012 season miami @ houston.
    I see it now. Opened HOU -6' and closed HOU -13. I'm not sure why it moved so far, Tannehill's first start I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    I'm looking at the Lions schedule... and I keep forgetting they're better than before... but damn. I'm marking most of these games down as losses.
    Yes, the NFC North in general will be tested against the NFC West and AFC West. No easy matchups anywhere there.

    For Det, Week 1 @SD is a tough draw both teams looking to take that next step someone has to lose. Week 2 @MIN, minny also trying to take that next step, nothing given in that road division game. Week 3 DET hosting Peyton on SNF is no easy out. Week 4 @SEA and DET might still be looking for their first win. Then they get AZ,CHI,MIN at home, probably find a win in there somewhere, but I could easily see DET way below .500 right out of the gate. Not really any easy games for DET at all. Even hosting OAK before PHI on Thanksgiving day, nothing would surprise me in those two games.

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    Gimme the Vikes +3.5. The Niners have regressed so far so fast that it's hard to believe.

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    Not really thinking about NFL right now but those are some pretty tight lines

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    who here has access to Westgate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    who here has access to Westgate?
    BetOnLine cloned the lines right away and lines are now up at 5 Dimes and Heritage.

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    Talk about getting stale lines. Yeah Buddy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr. leisure View Post
    The jets at home -1 against the browns
    This is the one line that sticks out the most to me.

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    I love how guys think a line sticks out this early

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    Would not bet anything right now.

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    Also Pat-6 line is to low

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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post
    who here has access to Westgate?
    What do you need there yis? Can shoot a text to a guy that works there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrigley View Post
    Also Pat-6 line is to low
    I agree, Pats -3' is probably more realistic. Typical over-hype the SB champs get early every year.

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