[LT Profits]

Thu 5/8		401 Johnny Manziel drafted first		-195
8:00PM		402 Blake Bortles drafted first		+155

Bortles definitely worth a pop at +155.

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And also, somewhat correlated...

Thu 5/8		307 Johnny Manziel draft position over 5½		-110
8:00PM		308 Johnny Manziel draft position under 5½		-130

If you agree that Bortles goes before Johnny Football, then Over 5.5 should be good.

[slacker00]

Great heads-up.

[mcdonae101]

Love bortles to go b4 manziel.

[easyliving]

not much value when its only $50 limits

[LT Profits]

not much value when its only $50 limits

Shit you are right. Maybe other outs besides 5 Dimes will post these.

[Robber]

Low limits and try move quickly but I'll try and bet

[bigballa]

where these at?

[Ho Le Fuk]

+300 now on bortles before johnny

[LordVodka]

Thanks. Where did u find this?

[Ho Le Fuk]

5dimes

[Otters27]

I would like Manziel Under 5.5 here. What teams are going to pass on him

[LT Profits]

I would like Manziel Under 5.5 here. What teams are going to pass on him

I think it is 50/50 with Browns being only team in first five picks that may take him, which is why +odds is value. My feeling is top 3 will be Clowney, Mack, Watkins (Watkins, Mack in either order at 2-3). Browns are 4th and take either Bortles or Manziel. If that holds, Raiders take Mike Evans (ironically Manziel's favorite target) fifth.

[LT Profits]

I think it is 50/50 with Browns being only team in first five picks that may take him, which is why +odds is value. My feeling is top 3 will be Clowney, Mack, Watkins (Watkins, Mack in either order at 2-3). Browns are 4th and take either Bortles or Manziel. If that holds, Raiders take Mike Evans (ironically Manziel's favorite target) fifth.

Of course this gets blown up if some Manziel lover trades up into top 5.

[LT Profits]

Manziel props now off the board. Clowney is -460 to go #1, guess it is done deal. +320 for the No

[lupe]

Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein 37m
Greg Cosell just said he believe Johnny Manziel will go #2 to the Rams.

[LT Profits]

Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein 37m
Greg Cosell just said he believe Johnny Manziel will go #2 to the Rams.

hmmm, I haven't even heard that the Rams are interested in him due to the enormous investment they have in Bradford. All projections I have seen have them taking either Mack or Watkins.

[LT Profits]

I think Rams only take Manziel if they trade down, I think he would be a horrible pick at #2 overall. Other guys they are considering would be immediate starters in the NFL, Manziel would not start immediately for Rams but would for Browns probably.

[Robber]

I bet bortles +200 yesterday and -130 on over

[Wrigley]

I actually like 401 Johnny Manziel drafted first -195

[Sick_in_the_Head]

nvm

[easyliving]

Manziel under 5.5 down to -280 now. Rams, Browns, Raiders all likely interested gotta think the under is a solid bet.

[EmpireMaker]

Manziel will very likely go to the Rams or Browns, before 5.5 looks pretty solid (no value)

[easyliving]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...rowns-at-no-4/

[crustyme]

Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein 37m
Greg Cosell just said he believe Johnny Manziel will go #2 to the Rams.

no way that's happening.

they're drafting greg robinson.

if they draft manzero, they should all be fired.

[bob6199]

Bortles isn't going before Johnny Football that is so penetrating easy money to bet and the other value bet is Mack under 4.5 he's gone at 1,2,3,4 for sure. BTW rams blowing smoke for some team to trade up and pick Johnny at 1 or trade with them at 1. They arent drafting Johnny

[Mitchell88]

I think Rams only take Manziel if they trade down, I think he would be a horrible pick at #2 overall. Other guys they are considering would be immediate starters in the NFL, Manziel would not start immediately for Rams but would for Browns probably.

I don't think there is anyway that the rams take him. It would be way to much of a risk at #2 and way much of a pain to trade down to get him. If Manziel goes first that team is screwed way to much hype over this kid. He isn't mature enough to play NFL right now, he needs someone to really lead him for a couple years

[LT Profits]

I don't think there is anyway that the rams take him. It would be way to much of a risk at #2 and way much of a pain to trade down to get him. If Manziel goes first that team is screwed way to much hype over this kid. He isn't mature enough to play NFL right now, he needs someone to really lead him for a couple years

Agree, but it does now look like Manziel is the Browns' preference so he will go at #4 anyway.

[jjgold]

Never bet against Johnny Football in a draft or a game as the kid is a winner. He should be number 1 pick.

[Domestic]

Bet365 odds for those interested: http://i.imgur.com/WYefvcT.jpg

[Vinnie Paz]

taking the over. hell slide. and yeah like the browns are going to leak out who they plan on drafting smoke screen people. nobody is going to say any valuable truthful information to fukkin rapaport/schefter etc when they all know hes going to just leak it out twitter anyhow. they put that out there on purpose.

these gms arent going to make the gabbert/locker mistakes again. minnesota--blue chip defensive prospect. jags, same thing. raiders? mike evans. browns--watkins/robinson THEN at 26 grab your qb. manziel wont go top 5. watch and see

[cankid]

should be interesting to see how it all comes out

[therushishere]

Does anyone know if there are any books in Vegas or even online where you can bet on a team drafting a certain player after the first round or between rounds, for example between rounds 2-5. I may have a tip for you if you have any experience here. Thanks.

[Robber]

Do not think
So


Just first round stuff usually

[Boscoe]

I think bovada does live betting during the draft

[EmpireMaker]

I really think it will be the Browns at #4 that take Manziel.