Pitt is -4
I think I will try Navy
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10-10-07 11:08 AM #1
Navy vs Pitt Tonight
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10-10-07 11:09 AM #2
JJ,
Got Navy +5 at Bookmaker last night.
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10-10-07 11:35 AM #3
I like Navy too. I also like Navy to score more than 24 points and the over 52. Pitt coach thinks that they have to score 4 TD to have a chance to beat Navy which tells me he will throw a lot. With a rookie QB that will lead to turnovers and easy points for Navy. I expect a high scoring game in the 60's. Not to mention that with only 3 days rest the two teams will be worn out defensively by mid 3rd quarter. Both D's are mediocre at best.
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10-10-07 11:38 AM #4
Might want to confirm some of your "facts" there, mate.
Originally Posted by pavyracer
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10-10-07 11:41 AM #5
If you disagree, say why you disagree. It's cowardly to just disagree with someone and not say why.Might want to confirm some of your "facts" there, mate.
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10-10-07 11:58 AM #6
Yes, indeed, only a true coward could notice that neither of these teams have played in the month of October.
Time for me to go hide under the covers now.
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10-10-07 12:36 PM #7
My bad regarding the short rest. I didn’t look at the date on teams last games. However, I still believe the two teams will be tired from partying through the wee hours due to not having to play last Saturday
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10-10-07 12:42 PM #8
Game: Pittsburgh at Navy (Wednesday 10/10 8:00 PM Eastern)
Pick: Navy +4
Navy will play the Panthers in Pittsburgh tonight, bringing in the nation's #2 rushing attack (348 yards per game). Navy remains a one dimensional team. They run the triple option and throw the ball less than 10 times per game. While one-dimensional can sometimes be bad, it works for Navy. It is an offense that is difficult to defend. Because of its unique structure, teams don't have any way to prepare for the novelty. Navy is in a role they find themselves in frequently: getting points on the road. They have risen to the occassion in the recent past, going 9-2 ATS in their last 11 games in this situation. The Midshipmen sport six ball carriers that have all had at least 20 carries, overall averaging 5.8 ypc, and five of the six over 6 ypc. Don't be surprised if Navy takes a shot downfield against the Panthers on their first possession. Last year they went to UCONN and on their first possession, with the Huskies poised to stop the run, they completed a 77 yard TD pass. Navy moves the ball with each possession and that often results in very few punts. Oftentimes on 4th down they go for it because they are confident that they can move the chains. Pittsburgh will now be on their third QB of the season and will be counting on Pat Bostick to get the offense moving. Bostick started vs. Virginia, where the Panthers were demolished 44-14. He has thrown five interceptions to just two touchdown passes. Virginia rushed the ball 42 times in that game for 173 yards. Look for more of the same from Navy here. The Navy defense has not been great, but the Panther offense is rated 105th out of 120 teams. Pitt's defense is ranked 9th but that ranking is somewhat misleading. They opened with Grambling State and E. Michigan which managed just 123 combined yards rushing and 384 yards overall. In Pittsburgh we have a BCS conference team that could lose 8-9 games this season. They have already lost three and still have to face Cinncinati, Louisville, Rutgers, S. Florida and West Virginia! Navy, a team that is 41-18 ATS vs. losing teams over the past 15 years, will likely win this game, or at lease cover.
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10-10-07 01:22 PM #9
i will offer a pitt angle since i hear so much navy talk.. navy has only played 1 team in the upper half of college 1a football ..they played rutgers on 9/7 at rutgers and managed just 289 yards of offense. navy lost lb clint sovie to injury and now has just 1 tackler from last years team with over 30 tackles, that being a cornerback. the other cornerback greg thrasher may not play due to disciplinary action. navy may also be without it's kicker.... pitt returns 4 offensive line starters and should be able to run the ball on this inexperienced navy defense. having played virginia and mich st on the road 2 of its last 3 games pitt will be happy to be home in an easily winnable game on a hyped up espn wednesday night.....with both teams running so much this game goes under pitt 23 navy 17
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10-10-07 01:32 PM #10
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10-10-07 02:11 PM #11
i'd lean with Pitt and the over, even though Pitt has lost 3 straight, Navy hasn't beat anyone impressive, i like the home field advantage for Pitt. but i'm not touching this game, got to much in NHL tonight.
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10-10-07 02:12 PM #12
Who do you like in the NHL tonight LVK? Originally Posted by louisvillekid
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10-10-07 02:24 PM #13
I don't understand what home advantage people think PITT has? They already lost to UConn at home and it's not like they play in a huge stadium and roll in 50,000+
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10-10-07 02:30 PM #14
i love Navy and already have my bet in for them at +4, but now that i see Dr Bob has selected them as well I am very concerned about this game.
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10-10-07 02:35 PM #15
There's always a home field advantage for the home team, and UConn is undefeated.
Don't worry about how Pitt got beat by UConn - With Wandstat at the helm and a frosh QB, they are set-up to lose tonight even with the home field advantage. This will be me on my way to the casino tonight after the game - SMILING Originally Posted by EaglesPhan36
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10-10-07 02:50 PM #16
In general, a team with Pitt's defensive talent should be able to come up with a gameplan (esp. given 10 days) to defend the triple option.....but then again there is the Wannstedt factor.
They say that even a blind squirrel finds an acorn sometimes, and Wannstedt is truly the Helen Keller of all squirrels. We'll see if he stumbles into that acorn or not.
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10-10-07 02:50 PM #17
I totally agree. If you look at Navy they play better away from home. Last year they won all of their games away from home except the bowl game which they lost by a single point to Boston. On the other hand, Pitt lost their last 9 games to conference teams or BCS teams and they lost these games by surrendering more than 30 points in each game. Originally Posted by EaglesPhan36
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10-10-07 02:58 PM #18
Did you guys see the free pick on the homepage? This guy went with Pitt:
http://www.sportsbookreview.com/Free+Picks/N...4-vs-navy.aspx
Thoughts?
mp
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10-10-07 03:42 PM #19
The fact that Navy only runs and PITT can focus on that is obvious and means nothing as Navy has repeatedly covered the spread or win games and seem to still be able to handle defenses focusing on the run as well...how is PITT -4.5 a number to entice Navy takers?? I'm not saying PITT can't win the game, which is why I'm teasing this to get +11.5 for Navy, I feel that Navy will be in this game and it will be up to an unproven QB for PITT to lead them to a win...also having PITT's coach say he need 4TD's from his QB adds pressure on the offense to produce. Originally Posted by moneyplays
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10-10-07 03:45 PM #20
It also shows he doesn't have much faith in his defense to stop the run. With that said, GO NAVY! Originally Posted by WestsidePete
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10-10-07 03:49 PM #21
PITTSBURGH (-4.0) 33 Navy 23
05:00 PM Pacific Time Wednesday, Oct-10 - Stats Matchup
Navy has covered the spread in just one game all season and the Midshipmen still appear overrated. Navy has a good offensive unit, averaging 6.3 yards per play (against teams that would allow 5.8 yppl to an average team), but the Middies have been horrible defensively (6.9 yppl allowed to teams that would average 5.4 yppl) and have allowed a horrendous 9.7 yards per pass play, so expect Pitt’s frosh QB Pat Bostick to have a good game after averaging a decent 5.0 yppp in games against good defensive teams Connecticut and Virginia, who would combine to allow just 5.3 yppp to an average quarterback. While the Panthers’ offense should move the ball well against Navy’s bad defense I expect the stout Pitt defense to handle Navy’s option attack. Pittsburgh has yielded only 3.9 yards per play and only 3.7 yards per rushing play this season (to teams that would average 5.1 yppl and 4.7 yprp against an average defense), so they are more than capable of slowing down Navy’s offense. Pittsburgh has a significant advantage regardless of which team has the ball and the only thing keeping me from making Pittsburgh a Best Bet is Navy’s long tradition of pointspread success in regular season games away from home (73-34-1 ATS, although 0-2 ATS this season) and coach Johnson’s 20-9-1 ATS record when facing a team with a losing record. Of course, most of those losing opponents weren’t as good defensively against the run as the Panthers are and I’ll consider Pittsburgh a Strong Opinion at -5 points or less and I’d take Pitt as a 2-Star Best Bet at -3 points or less.
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10-10-07 03:50 PM #22
i have them listed in the hockey forum under the best bets thread. Originally Posted by BatemanPatrickl
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10-10-07 03:53 PM #23
Originally Posted by moneyplays
exactly...he thinks he needs 28+ pts...if it happens well great...maybe they stay ahead in the game, but Navy won't panic or go away...a perfect game maybe 38-28 PITT ....but it won't be perfect, that why I'm thinking PITT or Navy in a close one ...or PITT panicks on offense if things aren't starting good and their QB starts throwing pics that lead to an easy Navy win...
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10-10-07 03:56 PM #24
MP, I'll take PITT 33 NAVY 23 if that happens...again I think a 10 pt win is the best PITT could do tonite...That's why I'm thinking by teasing this at NAVY +11.5 has me covered.
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10-10-07 05:04 PM #25
Navy Money Line for me tonight.
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10-10-07 05:41 PM #26
Ok i thought the post above by westsidepete was the docs pic, which one is it? Originally Posted by moneyplays
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10-10-07 06:23 PM #27
As much as I hate going with JJ tonight I also like Navy. Boy Jimmy Johnson's magic never made it to his second level guys, like Parcell's did.
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10-10-07 06:49 PM #28
The one I posted is what Bob wrote. He sided with Pitt. Originally Posted by MJFtheGenius
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10-10-07 06:54 PM #29
Crackheads, Navy has one of the best running games in the business and Pittsburgh can't stop the run. HELLO...is anyone home?
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10-10-07 06:54 PM #30
good, I feel better that i am against Bob on this one
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10-10-07 06:58 PM #31
On Navy but only bet the spread.
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10-10-07 07:07 PM #32
Same. +4 Originally Posted by crazyl
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10-10-07 07:20 PM #33
I told you crackheads to bet Navy on the moneyline. But, would you listen to me? oooooo nooooooooooooooo LOL
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10-10-07 07:20 PM #34
Haha, looking good so far. I took Navy +4 because I'm a chicken I guess.
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10-10-07 07:21 PM #35
Navy has the best running game in the business and Pittsburgh cannot stop the run. What is so hard about picking the winner in this game? HELLO...is anyone home?? LOL Originally Posted by moneyplays
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