[ForgetWallStreet]

The lines are out for Week 1. Thought we could start discussing and posting leans.

6:00 pm
129 Miami Ohio
130 Ball State -5½

6:00 pm
131 Buffalo
132 Rutgers -31½

7:00 pm (ESPN)
133 LSU -16
134 Mississippi State

7:00 pm
135 Kent State
136 Iowa State -3½

7:05 pm
137 UNLV -9½
138 Utah State

9:00 pm
139 Utah
140 Oregon State -7½

6:00 pm (ESPN2) Added Game
141 Tulsa -5½
142 UL Monroe

6:30 pm (ESPNU)
147 Navy -21
148 Temple

7:00 pm (ESPN)
149 Washington -4
150 Syracuse


2:30 pm (TM CH)
151 Western Michigan
152 West Virginia -22

11:00 am (ESPN)
153 East Carolina
154 Virginia Tech -23½

11:00 am (ESPNU)
155 Marshall
156 Miami Florida -20

11:00 am (ESPN2)
157 Alabama Birmingham
158 Michigan State -19

1:00 pm
159 Connecticut -5½
160 Duke

1:00 pm (VER)
161 Virginia -4
162 Wyoming

2:30 pm (ABC)
163 Nevada
164 Nebraska -19½

2:30 pm
165 Mississippi -3 -105
166 Memphis -115

2:30 pm (ESPNU) Game is being played in Chicago, IL
167 Iowa -11
168 Northern Illinois

2:30 pm
169 Houston
170 Oregon -16

2:30 pm (ABC)
171 Washington State
172 Wisconsin -14

2:30 pm (NBC)
173 Georgia Tech
174 Notre Dame -3

2:30 pm Game is being played in St Louis, MO
175 Missouri -4½
176 Illinois

2:30 pm (FSN)
177 UCLA -16½
178 Stanford

2:30 pm (ABC)
179 Wake Forest
180 Boston College -6½

4:30 pm (VER)
181 Arizona
182 BYU -4½

6:00 pm (TM CH) Game is being played in Cleveland, OH
183 Army
184 Akron -4½

5:00 pm
185 Central Florida
186 North Carolina State -9

5:00 pm (CSTV)
187 Baylor
188 TCU -21

5:45 pm (ESPN2)
189 Oklahoma State
190 Georgia -7

6:00 pm
191 Central Michigan
192 Kansas -8

11:00 am (FSN) (TM CH) Game is being played in Denver, CO
193 Colorado State
194 Colorado -2½

5:00 pm (TM CH)
195 Eastern Michigan
196 Pittsburgh -21

6:00 pm (ESPNU)
197 Purdue -7
198 Toledo

6:45 pm (ESPN)
199 Kansas State
200 Auburn -13

7:00 pm
201 Bowling Green
202 Minnesota -17

7:00 pm (ABC)
203 Tennessee
204 California -4½

9:00 pm (CSTV)
205 New Mexico -3
206 Texas El Paso

9:00 pm
207 San Jose State
208 Arizona State -16½

9:15 pm (FSN)
209 Idaho
210 Southern Cal -43½

11:00 am Added Game
211 Florida International
212 Penn State -38½

6:00 pm Added Game
213 Arkansas State
214 Texas -37

6:00 pm (FSN) Added Game
215 North Texas
216 Oklahoma -40½

6:00 pm Added Game
217 UL Lafayette
218 South Carolina -28

6:00 pm Added Game
219 Troy
220 Arkansas -26½

3:00 pm (TM CH) Added Game
221 Middle Tenn State
222 Florida Atlantic -1

3:00 pm (ESPN)
223 Texas Tech -9
224 SMU

7:00 pm (ESPN)
225 Florida State -1½
226 Clemson

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[bigboydan]

It's still a bit early for me to actually bet a game yet. However, I am liking East Carolina 23½.

[prickbeater101]

Geez...LSU only -16 against Miss St ?? I figure they are a good 10-14 points low on this one. I guess I should go and read up on Miss St before I pass judgement on this one, but history says it hasn't been close in awhile.

[hawk 5]

Geez...LSU only -16 against Miss St ?? I figure they are a good 10-14 points low on this one. I guess I should go and read up on Miss St before I pass judgement on this one, but history says it hasn't been close in awhile.

I agree beater, also think Iowa at -11 is way low. N Ill. lost alot of starters from an averege MAC team last year. Should be 50,000 Hawkeye fans at this one.

[hawk 5]

Razz, I'm liking Missouri -4.5 against Ill., tell me why I shouldn't bet that.

[pags11]

hawk,

I believe he likes the other side...LSU line should be about 19.5 IMO, but remember the game is a weeknight ESPN game (road favs always have a tougher time covering)...

[hawk 5]

hawk,

I believe he likes the other side...LSU line should be about 19.5 IMO, but remember the game is a weeknight ESPN game (road favs always have a tougher time covering)...

Yes, I've noticed on some of Razz's post that he thinks Ill will turn it around this year. I'm not convinced yet, but will go easy against them.

[pags11]

hawk,

actually made a small play on LSU last night at -16.5...

[linebacker]

i like Tennessee over Cal.

[prickbeater101]

Pags thats a great bet!! I have this line, myself at 28. I really feel if Miss St can cover this 16.5, LSU will need some serious work. Miles will not be happy for this game to be that close. Not taking anything away from Miss St. but Miles has this team on a mission to prove to the world they are as good as USC if not better.

[pags11]

hopefully we can get it done prickbeater...

[prickbeater101]

I feel certain in this one pags....

[Razz]

Razz, I'm liking Missouri -4.5 against Ill., tell me why I shouldn't bet that.

Because Illinois is the better team.

Missouri has the slightly better offense, it is true. Daniel will have a good year. However, the Illinois defense is very good and will only get better as Zook continues to bring in his players. J Leman is one of the best individual players in the nation, and one of my favorite to watch. Missouri, on the other hand, has no real defense. They got gashed by anyone who could run the ball last year (I've got news for you, they'll be even worse this year). The first half of the year, Missouri played a bunch of weak offenses or teams that never ran the ball - Murray State, Ole Miss, New Mexico, Ohio, Colorado, Texas Tech. Colorado put up 183, none of the other teams ran the ball at all. Not surprisingly, Missouri started out 6-0. But look how many rushing yards they allowed in their 2-4 finish.

180 to Texas A&M
262 to Kansas State
231 to Oklahoma
183 to Nebraska
196 to Iowa State
160 to Kansas

So, it's fair to say that Missouri struggles mightily with teams that can run the football, yes? Well, how about in a conference with three top ten teams and several highly touted running backs, Illinois led the Big 10 in rushing by a wide margin. 188.8 ypg (2nd was 175.5) and 5.2 ypc (second was 4.6). Sure, Pierre Thomas is gone, but Rashard Mendenhall is not a downgrade, and there are other capable backs, not to mention Juice, who will emerge as a star very shortly with both his arms and legs.

And, while I think that Ron Zook is overrated as a bad coach - the Florida situation was just one of those nearly impossible deals, while the Illinois situation is perfect for him - even the most diehard Zook basher will look favorably on him compared to Gary Pinkel. Honestly, I don't think this will be close. I'm probably crazy, but I think it's something like 37-17 Illini.

[moses millsap]

It will be interesting for sure to see if Juice can turn all that raw ability and talent into something amazing this year (or whether it will take another year for him to develop). Either way, this kid is going to be something special.

[austintx05]

pags - I am leaning Georgia -6.5...talk to me about this one.

[pags11]

I believe that razz has commented on it somewhere in the forum, but I'll say my piece...as much as I respect OSU's skill position guys, their O line is somewhat questionable and their defense is completely questionable...

I used to call UGA, Field Goal University because Richt got a little conservative calling plays for a while...but the bowl game sold me, Bobo is an outstanding playcaller and he will make the unit more "ohhfensive"...I also think UGA is one of the more physical teams in the country (and they have one of the best secondaries in the country), which I think will ultimately wear OSU down...

[austintx05]

thanks for the reply pags....

[rjt721]

I think UGA has the potential to be really good this year, but it's all dependent on how Stafford progresses. He has the player's around him to excel this year - I think Moreno is going to be a star, and the return of Sean Bailey will also help.

As for the UGA/OSU game: I like the Dawgs. I don't mind laying the 6.5 in a game that figures to be high-scoring. OSU will certainly put up some points, but I can't see their defense stopping UGA at all. Stafford should have a huge day. I think OSU keeps it close in the first half, but UGA's a much more complete team and I think they'll pull away in the 2nd half and win comfortably.

[imgv94]

Illinois ML for me..

[BuddyBear]

I'll probably be on Illinois and Georgia myself....

[pags11]

atta kid buddy...by the way, had to dump Kerry today...it happens bro...