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    Wisconsin is much better without Bret Bielama

    He's not doing shit at Arkansas. Arkansas is worst with him and Wisconsin is better without him. Just an observation.

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    I can’t believe how bad the razor backs are

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    wisconsin isn't better without him

    only reason wisconsin keeps making the big 10 championship is that they play on the weak side of the conference... opposite side of ohio st/michigan/michigan st/penn st

    if bielema was still at wisconsin they would be at least as good, he was a great recruiter... not the same chance of success at arkansas

    keep in mind wisconsin has 5 million people and only ONE DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL TEAM AND NO DIVISION 2 FOOTBALL TEAMS

    talk about easy recruiting, wisconsin is the only team in the state that can give scholarships

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    Their schedule is a complete joke. The players probably could have coached themselves to be unbeaten.

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    Come on guys. That win Saturday against that powerhouse Coastal Carolina was HUGE. Sarcasm aside this is his 5th year and these are his players. Obviously can't judge talent because we have none. Was fun for awhile, but old Brett has to go.

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    Bielama judges talent by how well their mother can cook.

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    Bielema left Wisconsin because he kept losing coaches because the school wouldn't pay them, Arkansas is the only big boy school in it's state too, and he has a big recruiting budget at Arkansas and the only thing he is losing is games. Wisconsin is much better since bielema left. The schedule didn't get worse after he left and the conference didn't realign either. They beat LSU in the first game last year so the talent is better than when Beilema was there because they couldn't winn bowl games or out conference big games.

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    Nope Wisky hasnt played a soul this year and next week Iowa will probably be so drunk off of beating OSU that they will prob get toyed with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    Nope Wisky hasnt played a soul this year and next week Iowa will probably be so drunk off of beating OSU that they will prob get toyed with.
    The scheduling hasn't gotten easier since Beilema left, it's probably tougher scheduling since he left and with better results

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Bielema left Wisconsin because he kept losing coaches because the school wouldn't pay them, Arkansas is the only big boy school in it's state too, and he has a big recruiting budget at Arkansas and the only thing he is losing is games. Wisconsin is much better since bielema left. The schedule didn't get worse after he left and the conference didn't realign either. They beat LSU in the first game last year so the talent is better than when Beilema was there because they couldn't winn bowl games or out conference big games.
    wtf are you talking about?

    big 10 realigned in 2014 when rutgers and maryland came in

    when bielema left wisconsin was in the same divsion as ohio state and penn state

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    wisconsin strength of schedule bielema's last year 2011 was 12th/120 teams

    wisconsin strength of schedule this year is 58th/130 teams

    i would say that's a schedule that got a lot easier!

    https://www.teamrankings.com/college...ate=2012-01-10

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    I don't know who's better or worse but Bielama and Weinstein look like father/ son.

    Ark would still win Big 10.

    Ark would be favored over Wisky

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    I don't know who's better or worse but Bielama and Weinstein look like father/ son.

    Ark would still win Big 10.

    Ark would be favored over Wisky
    um no

    wisconsin would be favored by 24 on a neutral site... predictor ratings are roughly what point spreads are based on

    http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm

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    SOS this year doesn't help that Washington cok blocked Wisconsin and backed out of their contract.

    How soon people forget recently playing Alabama and LSU. Last year playing 5 top 25 teams going 11-3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    um no

    wisconsin would be favored by 24 on a neutral site... predictor ratings are roughly what point spreads are based on

    http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm
    LOL has Wisconsin played any team this year that's even ranked? NO

    ARK has losses, yes, but all versus ranked teams. And it only gets harder now w LSU.

    Who'd you rather play this week, LSU or IOWA?

    WISKY beats up on Maryland in conference, ARK has to battle Ole Miss on a "gimmie" week.

    ARK doing just fine, conference is unwinnable without a Heisman qb or rb to be the X factor versus Bama...

    ...meanwhile Big10 can't even put a decent contender out there. OSU PSU MICH MICH ST all toast, NEB and IOWA I don't know why their programs are dead, Indiana still sums despite hype, Illionois tried GEORGE JR that failed, the Gophers fired the best coach they've had since Mason, Rutgers Maryland and Northwestern get their hand full of upsets but are dogs in every game.

    ARK would win the Big10

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    arkansas hasn't even come within 20 points of any of the decent teams they've played yet they would win the big 10

    i agree their schedule is a lot tougher than wisconsin's but there's no point in being totally ridiculous

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    arkansas hasn't even come within 20 points of any of the decent teams they've played yet they would win the big 10

    i agree their schedule is a lot tougher than wisconsin's but there's no point in being totally ridiculous
    It's not ridiculous it's what happens when your season is over 1 month in.

    Look at the OSU and PSU letdown this past week.

    ARK got buried by mid Sept, kids looking to 18.

    They'll get buried this week too, thou LSU -18 seems insane.

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    i hear you minnesota

    when iowa or michigan state wins a game, it's just luck or a let down

    when an sec team wins a game by a point over coastal carolina (or even loses a game by 30 points) they are still super awesome

    arkansas would probably beat wisconsin by 50 points in madison, shit i'd be surprised if wisconsin even gained a yard in the game

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    Oh come on who's being ridiculous now.

    I'm not saying he shouldn't have beaten CC by 2 scores but ARK did outgain them by 200 yards, put 560 yards thenselves, had the only turnover despite knocking the CC qb out.

    The BIG10 won't even have a playoff team this year, you can make a case for 3 SEC teams.

    Iowa just beat OSU by 30 points, OSU beat PSU, Northwestern beat Iowa..... thats all you need to know about the BIG10. The teams aren't any good, they are legacy schools who use 100 years of success, from an era when southern schools refused to integrate, to pile up prestige and bowl contracts and then expand to the east coast for TV purposes.

    They are not a power conference anymore. ACC PAC12 SEC outclass them, overall, in every sport. BIG10, BIG12 should just merge, maybe out of those 25 teams one could slip into the conversation for final 4 in football.

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    Now can you Arky homers possibly defend Bielema? How utterly stupid can you be? His teams have never lost less than 5 games. He has no idea of how to recruit in the SEC. His arse is gone after this season. His Conference record is a horrid 11-26. He has not idea what a defense is. The guys in here who think that Arkansas would win the Big 10 this year should be committed to the home of happy. You guys are one Taco short of a #7 Combination plate.
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    I would argue BYU and Utah State have gotten worse. People bash on WI for their lack of tough opponents this year. When non conference schedule was created 5 years ago BYU was a top 15 program and Utah State was a top 25. No way to predict those programs would suck so bad now...10 years ago WI used to play some real crap programs in Woffard, Fresno State to name a few. Conference schedule is always a toss up. Nebraska and Michigan were supposed to be a challenge this yr but flaked out. WI doesn't get enough credit for being one of the best academic AND athletic schools in the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Peepers View Post
    I would argue BYU and Utah State have gotten worse. People bash on WI for their lack of tough opponents this year. When non conference schedule was created 5 years ago BYU was a top 15 program and Utah State was a top 25. No way to predict those programs would suck so bad now...10 years ago WI used to play some real crap programs in Woffard, Fresno State to name a few. Conference schedule is always a toss up. Nebraska and Michigan were supposed to be a challenge this yr but flaked out. WI doesn't get enough credit for being one of the best academic AND athletic schools in the country.
    conference schedule was tougher before realignment though, hard to argue with that

    last year of bielema, wisconsin played 6 ranked teams in addition to AT OHIO ST including... oregon, michigan state twice, penn state

    that's 7 games that are EACH tougher than any single game on this year's schedule

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    Wisconsin is no better or worse without Bielema. There right around where they would be if he was still coaching. Shit even Gary Andersen had two solid years at Wisconsin in 2013 and 2014. Wisconsin has been a good football program for the last 10-15 years
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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzaii View Post
    Wisconsin is no better or worse without Bielema. There right around where they would be if he was still coaching. Shit even Gary Andersen had two solid years at Wisconsin in 2013 and 2014. Wisconsin has been a good football program for the last 10-15 years
    solid football AND basketball program over that length of time

    made the last 4 sweet 16s

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    arkansas doesnt have the speed in high school like alabama, florida or mississippi

    in fact its a pretty white state. he was never going to do much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheatgrass View Post
    arkansas doesnt have the speed in high school like alabama, florida or mississippi

    in fact its a pretty white state. he was never going to do much
    good point

    wisconsin there is a bigger pool of fat whites to choose from on the offensive line

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    wisconsin isn't better without him

    only reason wisconsin keeps making the big 10 championship is that they play on the weak side of the conference... opposite side of ohio st/michigan/michigan st/penn st

    if bielema was still at wisconsin they would be at least as good, he was a great recruiter... not the same chance of success at arkansas

    keep in mind wisconsin has 5 million people and only ONE DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL TEAM AND NO DIVISION 2 FOOTBALL TEAMS

    talk about easy recruiting, wisconsin is the only team in the state that can give scholarships
    And they recruit the Chicago area better than any other school outside of ND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    good point

    wisconsin there is a bigger pool of fat whites to choose from on the offensive line
    Then they seem to always have a good RB to go along with the OLine. Usually speedy, minus Dayne though he wasn't terribly slow in college. Always remember Michael Bennett dominating with his speed. Now he gets to dominate the prison yard. Wisconsin recruits weirdly well forever now. Barry was/is the man. Always loved Big Ten noon games for whatever reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuse0323 View Post
    Then they seem to always have a good RB to go along with the OLine. Usually speedy, minus Dayne though he wasn't terribly slow in college. Always remember Michael Bennett dominating with his speed. Now he gets to dominate the prison yard. Wisconsin recruits weirdly well forever now. Barry was/is the man. Always loved Big Ten noon games for whatever reason.
    Alvarez was The Guy for getting Lou Holtz talent from Chicago. When he went to Wisconsin, he had established contacts.

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    Holy crap that M.Bennett guy went to prison

    he was huge and ran a 10.1 100 meters. bo jackson like talent

    what a dummy

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    not only bennett but former running back brent moss is also in prison

    and that other wisconsin running back that got busted for stealing an xbox

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    i remember watching a wisconsin game and bennett had a long run he looked fast even on tv

    reading his bio he spent about 8 seasons bouncing around the nfl should have made a few million no reason to be in prison

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    wisconsin isn't better without him

    only reason wisconsin keeps making the big 10 championship is that they play on the weak side of the conference... opposite side of ohio st/michigan/michigan st/penn st

    if bielema was still at wisconsin they would be at least as good, he was a great recruiter... not the same chance of success at arkansas

    keep in mind wisconsin has 5 million people and only ONE DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL TEAM AND NO DIVISION 2 FOOTBALL TEAMS

    talk about easy recruiting, wisconsin is the only team in the state that can give scholarships

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    for sure papertrail

    the other beneficiary of no division 1/division 2 teams are the d3 schools in wisconsin

    since 2005, uw-whitewater has 2 baseball championships, 2 basketball championships, and 6 football championships

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