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if it wasnt for the refs in last year's NFC title game, Harbaugh would have been a Super Bowl champ, and Pete Carroll would have been scratching his balls. Harbaugh got the 49ers, who were horrible for a decade, to 3 straight NFC title games in his first 3 years. Instantly turned the team around. Pete Carroll is 25 years older than Harbaugh, cant compare the 2 at all. I like them both and would love to have either as the coach of the Browns, but all this Harbugh hate is just ignorant.
Jimmy is big time we all know that
College is tougher now..kids go all over
Tough to dominate
Yeah, good point. They've only won 10 games or more in four of the last five seasons and have more Big Ten wins than any other program during that span. My bad.Originally Posted by zacharyj53
a little queer eye for the straight guy going on in here...
thats insane.
Big Bears Top 10 programs
1. Ohio State
2. Alabama
3. Auburn
4. Oregon
5. LSU
6. FSU
7.Michigan State
8.Georgia
9.Baylor
10. Stanford
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What are you basing this off of, not surprised you have State 1st.
Still not a top 10 program. Texas has been down the last 5 years. Do you consider Mich St a better program than Texas? Mich St has done well but the Big Ten has been down during their run.
That is a horrible list, what is your reasoning for this list?
Right now? Absolutely. MSU has been developing talent, has superior coaching and the on field success isn't even comparable
Usd wasn't even a thought in anyone's mind and Harbaugh won everything he could with them. Stanford was 2-14 before Harbaugh (and sucks since) and he took them to a top 5 ranking and bcs games.
He may be a bafoon but Harbaugh will restore Michigan to elite status soon.
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Michigan had no other choice. They need a quick fix to a disaster year. It's all business. They don't want to wait 3-5 years hoping for a change... they needed it now. Fan base was turning on U of M. Students protesting on campus... had to be done.
Surprisingly going into the 2014 season... Michigan outsold Michigan State on Season Ticket sales.
Who thinks Harbaugh is a "buffoon"?
By all accounts, he's a good guy....just hyper-competitive.
As a UofM fan, I'm thrilled with this move. As should every wolverine fan.
Tat is 100% correct here. Harbaugh will have the Blue good again...and soon.
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Opie bafoon in terms of how he carries himself and deals with other professionals. As a recruiter and on the field/play calling coach he's amazing.
Michigan certainly has recruiting appeal still, they have had some top recruiting classes recently. On paper that is a good sign for harbaugh.
Did the raiders even try to grab hardballs? What a bad organization.
Michigan not a done deal yet. Could be using michigan to up Oaklands offer.
I hope he goes to Oakland and makes them relevant again and then hopefully the 49ers dont make the playoffs for 20 years straight.
Still think the Bears are a major wild card in all of this.
U of M officials told Michigan's biggest donors that they have confirmed Harbaugh's hiring and will be announcing it at press conference tomorrow.
Done.
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Depends on how you're defining a Top-10 program. At the moment, MSU is in much better shape than Texas. Much. Even if we're splitting hairs there, you said MSU may not even Top-30, which is ridiculous. They have made recruiting in-roads in Detroit during the Rodriguez and Hoke eras that Harbaugh won't be able to just reverse overnight.
I might be the minority here, but I could see this getting ugly down the road. Harbaugh played nice at Stanford, and was a jerk in San Fran. He will be dealing with crazed lunatics every day in Michigan, I think they do well on the field but he wont play well with others and be out in a few years for the NFL. Just an insane amount of money, he had to take the job, but he still reminds me of a NFL coach more than a college one.
Why would he take a college game where he has to recruit players. It is so much easier to buy your players. (some colleges do this too) I can't see him leaving the NFL . It would be a terrible decision. And I believe he is a little bit of an asshole BUT sometime you have to be to coach in the NFL and he is a dam good coach.
Agree completely.
COiner is in love with tatdaddy.
Huh?
Harbaugh relates well to younger adults. I don't think the older ones buy into his system. Even though we could be possibly grading on a hard scale... Harbaugh did accomplish a lot in San Francisco... regardless of not making the playoffs this year.
The $8 million offer was a business move for the University of Michigan... they didn't want to play around. They fukked around with Hoke and looked where it got them. Harbaugh has a no nonsense attitude. They don't want pu$$ies on the sidelines like Hoke. I think Harbaugh will deliver for Michigan. Guy might go undefeated. We don't know? Not a bad future to play for the 2015 season and/or 2016 season. He's going to win a title. Just watch.
As for San Francisco... don't know what was going on behind the scenes? I blame Kaepernick more than Harbaugh. Maybe Kaepernick overachieved in previous years? Maybe Kap's head got too big? Regardless... Harbaugh did the best he could...
Someone offers you $8 million a year... to go back where you once originated from??? Are you going to say NO? Even though $8 million is steep... it showed Michigan wanted quick answers... and I don't think Harbaugh's the kind of guy to take the $ and not perform. He's going to give Michigan what they need. Restore the passion.
How is that surprising? Doesn't Michigan's stadium hold 30-35,000 more than MSU's? I sure as hell would hope they'd sell more season tix.
"Suuuure"
What I meant by that Coin... is that Michigan State's stadium isn't even sold out with it's low capacity. I haven't been to East Lansing in a long time... probably 10 years... but from what the younger crowd has told me.. there's nothing to do in East Lansing from an entertainment standpoint. You drive all the way to East Lansing from Metro Detroit... watch a 3-4 hour football game... and you have to drive back to Metro... or wherever.... doesn't have an entertainment value. Where as... you drive to Ann Arbor... win/lose you still can entertain yourself in Ann Arbor etc. I guess it's based on economic location etc.
I guess what I question is... you have an amazing Michigan State team... great coaching staff... great players... and you can't sell seats in East Lansing? What's the issue?
Great move for Michigan. This should of happen years ago when he went to Stanford. Should make the Michigan State & Ohio State games worth watching next year. About time.
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